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A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#482 Apr 27, 2014
Like clockwork wrote:
<quoted text>Wanna know what else? If the right wingers are hard working people that never need unemployment, with great jobs ....
guess you have never been to michigan
LOL

Upper Sandusky, OH

#487 Apr 27, 2014
Its simpler than that wrote:
<quoted text>Whats it matter? Wing nuts don't need unemployment, ever, because you're lazy if you use it. They don't need insurance because George Bush taught them to save for a rainy day. Coverage denial and getting turned down because of preexisting conditions isn't a concern for right wingers, they've got it all worked out.
Stop talking to yourself, Ferret!!!! Doesn't look good on a resume. Not that you have to worry about that...
Independent

United States

#489 Apr 27, 2014
just a guy wrote:
wanna know what else is crazy look up tannerite videos on youtube. its an explosive sold at gun shops and on internet. no limmit onn how much you can buy. its a mixture of ammonium nitrate and alluminium powder. you mix the alluminium powder with the nitrate in small amounts put it behind a target and shoot it. it explodes with tremendous power. and it is all legal unless you mix up too much but no limmit on how much you can buy
Over 300 million guns, that are known about, in circulation.
Ain't it great?

Tannerite, love it.



You should really try it, you would get hooked....FAST.....

:^`}
Nah

Upper Sandusky, OH

#490 Apr 27, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
Over 300 million guns, that are known about, in circulation.
Ain't it great?
Tannerite, love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =cqomN9ghOQUXX
You should really try it, you would get hooked....FAST.....
:^`}
'Tards are scared of ALL things explosive, except for the NATIONAL DEBT, of course...
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI

Paw Paw, MI

#491 Apr 27, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
Over 300 million guns, that are known about, in circulation.
Ain't it great?
Tannerite, love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =cqomN9ghOQUXX
You should really try it, you would get hooked....FAST.....
:^`}
if the feds ever rise up against citizens again the archers in gilys will have them crapping in their pants

Ohio State, NEVER AGAIN
lol

San Jose, CA

#494 Apr 27, 2014
Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy knows how to start a stampede.

After Bundy, who became a right-wing hero for his refusal to acknowledge the authority of the federal government, wondered aloud about whether “Negro” people were “better off as slaves,” conservative figures who had celebrated his cause rushed to distance themselves from him.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who had condemned the federal government’s attempt to enforce court orders against Bundy:“Offensive.”

Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), who had declared Bundy’s followers “patriots”:“Appalling and racist.”

And Sean Hannity, who had led a Fox News campaign that made a hero of Bundy:“Beyond repugnant.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-m...
lol

San Jose, CA

#495 Apr 27, 2014
update

Torrance, CA

#496 Apr 29, 2014
Four of us on horseback yesterday rounded up 250 head and moved them over 8 miles. None of us got injured, no one was charged, and all 250 head arrived 100% healthy. Even the young calves that we made sure got back with their mothers before we rode off. It ain't that hard if you if you know how and have compassion for the animals. In fact is was a true pleasure to spend the day doing it.

-from the Bundy Ranch facebook page

“Got'em figured out?”

Since: Nov 09

Think again

#497 Apr 30, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody I know wants our country to become a police state and anyone with a brain wants to avoid another Ruby Ridge or Waco. That said, you're once again missing causality here and ignoring history. The militarization of Local, State and Federal authorities is a direct result of the increasing militarization of we the people.
Specifically, Local authorities started ramping up their firepower after the '97 North Hollywood Shootout in '97. During that incident, two of your fellow firearm enthusiasts, carrying superior weaponry and Kevlar clad, shot 11 policemen, armed with 38 cal and 9 mm weapons, and 7 civilians trying to escape a Bank of America branch.
Shortly after that, Local authorities recognized that the likelihood was high that other criminal firearm enthusiasts could carry similar weaponry and wear Kevlar and followed suit. I have no use for thug tactics by Local authorities and I'm no fan of cops who bully, just because they can, but let's not ignore the causality and history.
So do you really want your Local, State or Federal law, with inferior firepower, to face off with criminals with superior firepower? Whether you recognize Bundy as a racist, or not, he is a confirmed entitlement abuser, who has lost in every Court, wraps himself in my flag, while refusing to recognize the authority of my government.
"Local patrol officers at the time were typically armed with their standard issue 9 mm or .38 Special pistols, with some having a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and M&#259;t&#259;s&#2 59;reanu carried illegally modified fully automatic Norinco Type 56 S-1s, a Bushmaster XM15 Dissipator, and a HK-91 rifle with high capacity drum magazines and ammunition capable of penetrating vehicles and police Kevlar vests. The bank robbers wore body armor which successfully deflected bullets and shells fired by the responding patrolmen. SWAT eventually arrived bearing sufficient firepower, and they commandeered an armored truck to evacuate the wounded. Several officers also appropriated AR-15 rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their capabilities in similar situations in the future."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/T164T5E...

" Thanks for trying to inform. "

It's gratifying to read that you have the inclination for that too. Thank you Chilli. Don't give that up :)

What's also relevant to your post is that the NRA transformed into being a shill lobby group for the gun manufacturers lobbyists as a factor in firepower for 'we the people'.
info

Columbus, OH

#498 Apr 30, 2014
Bundy Ranch Advisory for April 29, 2014

Yes, it is true: Oath Keepers received a bizarre bit of leaked info which could not be verified but which also could not be ignored. Our contact is connected with the Department of Defense – or “was”. The info we received stated that Eric Holder of the Department of Justice had okayed a drone strike on the Bundy ranch near Bunkerville, Nevada, within a 48 hour period over the weekend of April 26/27, 2014.

That, fortunately, turned out to be “dis-info”– a false rumor. And though it came from a trusted source, Oath Keepers could neither prove nor disprove it. Oath Keepers is thankful that the rumor was false and no one got hurt. Oath Keepers also is aware that the source of that rumor requires debriefing, which would hopefully lead to the author of that operation. It was a directed attack on Oath Keepers to do several things including gaging our comms depth, our speed in Intel, and study how we responded. The project’s cheerleaders were already implanted in the militias operating on-site at the ranch, so that when Oath Keepers responded to the rumor new forces would be ready to pounce on Oath Keepers.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/04/29/bundy-...

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#499 Apr 30, 2014
update wrote:
Four of us on horseback yesterday rounded up 250 head and moved them over 8 miles. None of us got injured, no one was charged, and all 250 head arrived 100% healthy. Even the young calves that we made sure got back with their mothers before we rode off. It ain't that hard if you if you know how and have compassion for the animals. In fact is was a true pleasure to spend the day doing it.
-from the Bundy Ranch facebook page
To bad they didn't do that twenty years ago.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#500 Apr 30, 2014
lol wrote:
Lol. Colbert is the best.

“Got'em figured out?”

Since: Nov 09

Think again

#501 May 1, 2014
"Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above; Don't fence me in."

Once, http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/TTJVITJ...

"Lordy, our film-makers and television offering creators have played with U.S. history and make myths out of it and our "heroes" quite frequently."

See, it's the John Wayne effect playing at our psyches, puhdnahs.

http://www.npr.org/2014/04/30/307960343/ranch...

TED ROBBINS, BYLINE: Let's go back to the decades after the Civil War. The Homestead Act is in effect. It gives 160 acres of public land to anyone who settles it.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "RED RIVER")

JOHN WAYNE:(as Thomas Dunson) This is it. This is where we start growing good beef.

ROBBINS: With that, John Wayne sets up his livestock operation in the 1948 film "Red River." In Florida or Nebraska - or even East Texas, where the movie is set -one of those 160 acres will feed 160 head of cattle. In large parts of the West, the entire 160 acres will feed just one cow and calf.

PAUL STARRS: It's desert land or semi-arid land and it takes a lot of acres to feed one animal over the course of the year.

ROBBINS: Paul Starrs is a geography professor at the University of Nevada Reno. Eventually ranchers began paying grazing fees to lease vast tracts of federal land for their livestock. In exchange, they submitted to government oversight. That, says Starrs, created fundamental tension.

STARRS: When you are using somebody else's land for your livelihood, that puts you in a very dependent relationship. And livestock ranchers are in my experience are pretty savvy people and they don't like that uncertainty. Nobody really likes uncertainty.

ROBBINS: The uncertainty grew with the public's interest in protecting the land. The Endangered Species Act, for instance, restricts land use to protect habitat. That's one reason Cliven Bundy gives for refusing to his pay grazing fees for 20 years. His resistance gained him supporters until he undercut himself by making racist remarks. Tim Duffurrina is not a fan of Cliven Bundy's tactics. He's been a Nevada rancher for 50 years. For one thing, Dufferina wouldn't think of not paying his grazing fees.

TIM DUFFERINA: It's federal land. Until it's changed, it's federal. So that's - that's the law, that's what it is.

ROBBINS: Notice he said until it's changed. For some, a burr under the saddle is simply the amount of land the government owns - about half of 13 Western states. In Nevada, it owns more than 80 percent. Utah passed a law demanding the federal government turn over its land. It's an old dispute and Tim Dufferina is thoughtful about it.

DUFFERINA: I hate to straddle the fence on you but I come down on both sides. I like the idea of state regulated because theoretically they should be - the state is more in touch with what's going on in each individual state than the federal government.

ROBBINS: On the other hand, it's expensive to fight wild fires, to run national parks, and to manage mining rights. Dufferina worries those costs might force states to sell the land. That could bring more development. More people.

DUFFERINA: I still believe in public land and I'd hate to see it sold or, you know, go out of the public hands.

ROBBINS: Ranchers see themselves as stewards of public lands. University of Nevada Professor Paul Starrs says it's an idea that's been nurtured by Hollywood and ranchers.

STARRS: And they have done a great job of emphasizing the legend rather than the fact.

ROBBINS: The fact is, it's a paradox being a rugged individualist dependent on the government. Unless you're John Wayne.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "RED RIVER")

WAYNE:(as Thomas Dunson) Everything a man could want - good water and grass. Plenty of it.
----------
see how it works in realiity: "it's a paradox being a rugged individualist dependent on the government." That's the "John effing Wayne" effect.

“Got'em figured out?”

Since: Nov 09

Think again

#502 May 1, 2014
galdurn! The ending got cut off. <splice>

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Who does this belong to?

WAYNE:(as Thomas Dunson) To me.

==========

Not the public land, Duke ... not the public land.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#504 May 1, 2014
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/T164T5E...
" Thanks for trying to inform. "
It's gratifying to read that you have the inclination for that too. Thank you Chilli. Don't give that up :)
What's also relevant to your post is that the NRA transformed into being a shill lobby group for the gun manufacturers lobbyists as a factor in firepower for 'we the people'.
Firearm extremists here who are totally convinced that, starting with this Administration, five years plus ago, Local, State and Federal Government decided to militarize their law enforcement staff, makes me laugh. This process started ramping up shortly after the '97 West Hollywood mess, more than 15 years ago. It's all about the authorities trying to avoiding asymmetrical warfare, if the firearm extremist has an automatic weapon, so should the law enforcement staff.

Multiple sources support that the NRA is heavily funded by the gun manufacturing industry. I haven't peered into the NRA's financial records, but the article below claims that they did so. So I can understand why Wayne LaPierre's rhetoric has become more and more parabolic and shrill. After all, if he disappoints his real masters, the gun manufacturing industry, the financial spigot could dry up or be shut off like that. Wayne was bought and sold by them years ago.

"One of the most interesting aspects of all is how an association for sportsmen became the prime defenders of assault weaponry.

In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.

While that is still part of the organization's core function, today less than half of the NRA's revenues come from program fees and membership dues.

The bulk of the group's money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.

Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.

The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.

Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA's revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business."

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-f...

“Got'em figured out?”

Since: Nov 09

Think again

#505 May 1, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Firearm extremists here who are totally convinced that, starting with this Administration, five years plus ago, Local, State and Federal Government decided to militarize their law enforcement staff, makes me laugh. This process started ramping up shortly after the '97 West Hollywood mess, more than 15 years ago. It's all about the authorities trying to avoiding asymmetrical warfare, if the firearm extremist has an automatic weapon, so should the law enforcement staff.
Multiple sources support that the NRA is heavily funded by the gun manufacturing industry. I haven't peered into the NRA's financial records, but the article below claims that they did so. So I can understand why Wayne LaPierre's rhetoric has become more and more parabolic and shrill. After all, if he disappoints his real masters, the gun manufacturing industry, the financial spigot could dry up or be shut off like that. Wayne was bought and sold by them years ago.
"One of the most interesting aspects of all is how an association for sportsmen became the prime defenders of assault weaponry.
In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.
While that is still part of the organization's core function, today less than half of the NRA's revenues come from program fees and membership dues.
The bulk of the group's money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.
Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA's revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business."
http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-f...
Amen.
charlie

Columbus, OH

#507 May 1, 2014
Just TLC wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol. Colbert is the best.
He takes over David Letterman's show next year?
info

Columbus, OH

#508 May 1, 2014
Republican Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada says Cliven Bundy should pay the Bureau of Land management more than $1 million in grazing fees the agency says he owes.

Heller made no additional comment on the subject at a news conference in Washington.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/01/he...

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