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#429 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
Bundy's grandfather purchased the grazing rights to that land in 1880 from the General Land Office, the GLO was a federal agency. Notice I said he purchased the grazing rights. In 1946 the BLM was formed and took over all federal lands and at some point they decided they did not have to honor the old agreements. The government is willing to ignore that fact much like it ignores agreements with Indian Tribes.
Another problem the BLM has, and why I think they decided to round up the cattle using force, is it is quite possible that Bundy has prescriptive rights to that property since his family has been continually using that property for 140 years.
According to Edward Cline, the fiction writer. However, he started this passage with an attribution to the mysterious Laron Fred Woods.

Again, who is this guy? Anyone know?

and in the 1880's the GLO was selling land. Grazing rights came in early 20th century. Sources are in a previous post.

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#430 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>the court of public opinion is rising in confidence and power
revolution is in the air
I reckon we should consider ole Tom Jefferson as "Blood and Guts".

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."[57] Jefferson's psyche may not have had the smoothest, oiled hinges of level-headed application in management of his finances, and business affairs.

We've certainly had our revolutions which included violence on each side: labor, influence on domestic and foreign policies, civil rights, etc. The aftermath of these always came to the political processes and the legal system.

Before these too, rebellions pretty early in our country's existence.

Taxes, taxes; and the resistance to them [along with states' "dragging their feet" about such, which would reduce national debt incurred by the Revolutionary War and the functions of the Federal government after that war]

1786-87 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebelli...
[Thomas Jefferson serving as ambassador to France and enthralled in the undercurrents and runup to the French Revolution]***In a letter to a friend, he argued that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."[57] In contrast to Jefferson's sentiments George Washington, who had been calling for constitutional reform for many years, wrote in a letter to Henry Lee, "You talk, my good sir, of employing influence to appease the present tumults in Massachusetts. I know not where that influence is to be found, or, if attainable, that it would be a proper remedy for the disorders. Influence is not government. Let us have a government by which our lives, liberties, and properties will be secured, or let us know the worst at once."[58][59]***

This situation highlighted the weaknesses in The Articles of Confederation, and guided the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia regarding strength of Federal government.

1791 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellio...
*** The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the willingness and ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws. The whiskey excise remained difficult to collect, however. The events contributed to the formation of political parties in the United States, a process already underway.

Historian Steven Boyd argued that the suppression of the Whiskey Rebellion prompted anti-Federalist westerners to finally accept the Constitution, and to seek change by voting for Republicans rather than resisting the government. Federalists, for their part, came to accept that the people could play a greater role in governance. Although Federalists would attempt to restrict speech critical of the government with the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798, after the Whiskey Rebellion, says Boyd, Federalists no longer challenged the freedom of assembly and the right to petition.[109]***

pertinent to the American Civil War as well.
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#432 Apr 25, 2014
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Edward Cline, the fiction writer. However, he started this passage with an attribution to the mysterious Laron Fred Woods.
Again, who is this guy? Anyone know?
and in the 1880's the GLO was selling land. Grazing rights came in early 20th century. Sources are in a previous post.
The very same two inaccurate paragraphs have been posted here, word for word, three times, so far. I believe your post above and your prior posts were well-intentioned and meant to inform, but multiple folks here don't appear to want to know the actual underlying circumstances (Court Rulings, dates, facts, laws, etc.) that recently culminated in NV. Thanks for trying to inform.

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#433 Apr 25, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
The very same two inaccurate paragraphs have been posted here, word for word, three times, so far. I believe your post above and your prior posts were well-intentioned and meant to inform, but multiple folks here don't appear to want to know the actual underlying circumstances (Court Rulings, dates, facts, laws, etc.) that recently culminated in NV. Thanks for trying to inform.
Yep.

I appreciate your insight, Chilli.

I'll never give up. ;)

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#434 Apr 25, 2014
famous blogger wrote:
<quoted text>Is Edward Cline the GOP historian?
After 20 years of beating this guy in court, I guess they did throw him for a loop by taking his cattle. The welfare mope probably figured he had another twenty years of losing in court before the mean ol' gubmint overreacted and snagged his cows. Jack booted thugs! Only giving a deadbeat 20 years notice! Does Ted Cruz know about this???!!!
"Is Edward Cline the GOP historian?" He might be. Don't know, don't care.

I'm trying to find out who is this Laron Fred Woods.
boomhauer

Columbus, OH

#435 Apr 25, 2014
yeah man that ol gw bush man he sucks man that ol dude man i tell u what man try to tell me i cant watch porn manfukin ol dude man

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#436 Apr 25, 2014
How resource management is done:

It's about management of coastal resources really; collective and colloborative efforts of government (multi-level), academic/research, industry (big and small businesses), environment groups, and 'little guys' in the communities like Maine coast, Boston Harbor area (saving whales), Florida Keys (reefs and shore habitats use among competing interests), Gulf of Mexico (includes farming practices in Iowa that effect same, and techniques of mitigation ), west coast habitats from Vancouver down to Baja -- focuses on salmon, forestry, farming colloboration in Oregon

http://ocean-frontiers.org/ocean-frontiers-on...

It's a pretty neat hour-long film.
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#437 Apr 25, 2014
John wrote:
<quoted text>
i have to admit i clicked on that link and saw it was a cartoon and didn't watch it so i don't really have a clue what point you was trying to make. got anything else?
forget the medium and pay attention to the content
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#438 Apr 25, 2014
John wrote:
<quoted text>
i have to admit i clicked on that link and saw it was a cartoon and didn't watch it so i don't really have a clue what point you was trying to make. got anything else?
perhaps this Nightline Interview take on the same "cartoon" would make things clearer why I posted the link

cowboy

Columbus, OH

#439 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>forget the medium and pay attention to the content
I didn't watch the video because it is a cartoon. Do you have anything else?
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#440 Apr 25, 2014
yes
the niteline interview with its creator
cowboy

Columbus, OH

#441 Apr 25, 2014
cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't watch the video because it is a cartoon. Do you have anything else?
ohbullshit man thats comedy its a little funny got anything else. we talking about cliven bundy right. welfare queen?
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#442 Apr 25, 2014
actuialy WE were talking about standing up, comedy has always pushed the limits ,Lenny Bruce to Socrates

bundy is but one small piece of it
cowboy

Columbus, OH

#443 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
actuialy WE were talking about standing up, comedy has always pushed the limits ,Lenny Bruce to Socrates
bundy is but one small piece of it
so where you stand politically slack. you a republican? tea party? liberty tarian? dontgiveafuk? red solo cup?
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#445 Apr 25, 2014
red solo cup? gotta go google
cowboy

Columbus, OH

#446 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
red solo cup? gotta go google
So you don't have a political Affiliation? I'm registered to vote as a Democrat
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#447 Apr 25, 2014
lets have a party
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#448 Apr 25, 2014
cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
so where you stand politically slack. you a republican? tea party? liberty tarian? dontgiveafuk? red solo cup?
(i)
cowboy

Columbus, OH

#449 Apr 25, 2014
A TROLL NAMED SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>(i)
U gonna vote or not?
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Paw Paw, MI

#450 Apr 25, 2014
cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
U gonna vote or not?
have since Anderson in 1980

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