Obama Care Sur Charge

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#1 Mar 1, 2014
Are being added to your meal bills in restaurants in Florida to help pay for OC healthcare!

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#2 Mar 1, 2014
Is this even legal???

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Mar 1, 2014
Of course it's legal. Maybe not in Obama's Socialist America dreams, but for now it is.

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#4 Mar 1, 2014
Uh Clem wrote:
Of course it's legal. Maybe not in Obama's Socialist America dreams, but for now it is.
Obama doesn't care; but it's terrible that the customers have to pay for it......

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

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#5 Mar 1, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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Obama doesn't care; but it's terrible that the customers have to pay for it......
Why? Customers pay for ALL expenses of a business. You just don't like seeing it in plain view.
a noted accountant

Bartlett, IL

#6 Mar 1, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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Obama doesn't care; but it's terrible that the customers have to pay for it......
Even better, customers are paying for it now instead of 2015 when it takes effect! Now THAT, is capitalism! You give some corporations lemons, they'll make lemonade and charge people for champagne!

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#7 Mar 1, 2014
Uh Clem wrote:
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Why? Customers pay for ALL expenses of a business. You just don't like seeing it in plain view.
The customers shouldn't have to pay for someone else's healthcare.....

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#8 Mar 1, 2014
a noted accountant wrote:
<quoted text>Even better, customers are paying for it now instead of 2015 when it takes effect! Now THAT, is capitalism! You give some corporations lemons, they'll make lemonade and charge people for champagne!
What happens in 2015? I thought it took effect when people signed up for the OC??

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Mar 1, 2014
a noted accountant wrote:
<quoted text>Even better, customers are paying for it now instead of 2015 when it takes effect! Now THAT, is capitalism! You give some corporations lemons, they'll make lemonade and charge people for champagne!
Sort like, oh I don't know, how we paid into Obamacare for 4 years before it ever went into operation (not that it's YET what we can call 'in operation').

You must hate it that these capitalists list sales tax separately on their receipts. How DARE they charge customers instead of paying it themselves!
katz

Reading, PA

#10 Mar 1, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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The customers shouldn't have to pay for someone else's healthcare.....
the same goes for customers should not have to pay for waitresses wages, they rely on their tips for a living. they onlt make 2.88 an hour, not even minimum wage, and this is the year 2014!!!!!!! time for change!!!!!!!

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Mar 1, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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The customers shouldn't have to pay for someone else's healthcare.....
Have you not been paying attention to how Obamacare works? The entire premise is that someone else pays for healthcare. The government designates who that is based on who they think is best able to pay it.

The old 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' as popularized by Dear Komrade Karl Marx a couple hundred years ago.

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#12 Mar 1, 2014
Uh Clem wrote:
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Have you not been paying attention to how Obamacare works? The entire premise is that someone else pays for healthcare. The government designates who that is based on who they think is best able to pay it.
The old 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' as popularized by Dear Komrade Karl Marx a couple hundred years ago.
Well, I live in the South and no restaurants here are charging a 1% tax for Obama Care! But 8 restaurants in Florida are.....
What does a communist regime have to do with what I'm talking about???
klem kadiddlehopper

Bartlett, IL

#13 Mar 1, 2014
Uh Clem wrote:
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Have you not been paying attention to how Obamacare works? The entire premise is that someone else pays for healthcare. The government designates who that is based on who they think is best able to pay it.
The old 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' as popularized by Dear Komrade Karl Marx a couple hundred years ago.
Unless you pay cash as you go you have insurance and you are paying for other peoples healthcare, dummy. If you pay taxes you are paying for other people having to go to the ER for their healthcare. Welcome to America, lunkhead!

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

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#14 Mar 1, 2014
klem kadiddlehopper wrote:
<quoted text>Unless you pay cash as you go you have insurance and you are paying for other peoples healthcare, dummy. If you pay taxes you are paying for other people having to go to the ER for their healthcare. Welcome to America, lunkhead!
Paying it for a few that need it is a lot different than paying it for a whole country as standard operating procedure. And the difference of paying locally through state taxes is a whole lot different than forced signups to nationally subsidized programs, complete with standard federal inefficiency and waste, not to mention the inability to appeal decisions to a higher authority (whoops, I just mentioned it) makes for a whole different and extremely ugly animal.

“Whispered Tales of Immortality”

Since: May 07

The Sacred River Alph

#15 Mar 1, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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What happens in 2015? I thought it took effect when people signed up for the OC??
a noted accountant wrote:
<quoted text>Even better, customers are paying for it now instead of 2015 when it takes effect! Now THAT, is capitalism! You give some corporations lemons, they'll make lemonade and charge people for champagne!
You haven't been paying attention. Premiums have steadily gone up since its inception in 2010. They are about 4 X what they were then. Not to mention higher deductibles. Its no secret the increases were in anticipation of the 2014 enrollment.

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#16 Mar 1, 2014
Clem 'i' think your fighting a lost cause on Spirit.
What does a communist regime have to do with what I'm talking about???

JohnnyComeLately you 'hit the nail on the head', there's a lot of thought goes into figuring out how to 'screw' the public next and we're all suckers for it. Our government is getting excellent @ it, same as many large company employers. Who learned from who is the question. But it brings in big bucks. I guess it can be explained in one word "GREED!"
*=* Those that got get, those that ain't got get got!*=*
klem kadiddlehopper

Bartlett, IL

#17 Mar 1, 2014
JohnnyComeLately wrote:
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You haven't been paying attention. Premiums have steadily gone up since its inception in 2010. They are about 4 X what they were then. Not to mention higher deductibles. Its no secret the increases were in anticipation of the 2014 enrollment.
If that's true (and you didn't provide any links saying it was) I have to ask you why you hate capitalism? Don't they have a God-given right to raise their rates and make as much money as possible? Why do you hate America?

“Whispered Tales of Immortality”

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#18 Mar 1, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
Clem 'i' think your fighting a lost cause on Spirit.
What does a communist regime have to do with what I'm talking about???
JohnnyComeLately you 'hit the nail on the head', there's a lot of thought goes into figuring out how to 'screw' the public next and we're all suckers for it. Our government is getting excellent @ it, same as many large company employers. Who learned from who is the question. But it brings in big bucks. I guess it can be explained in one word "GREED!"
*=* Those that got get, those that ain't got get got!*=*
As far as cost we haven't seen anything yet. Insurance Company's are protected from losses by a bailout. After the initial implementation they will adjusts their costs accordingly once they know better what this law is going to cost them.

Look for the big increases in the next couple of years.

“Whispered Tales of Immortality”

Since: May 07

The Sacred River Alph

#19 Mar 1, 2014
klem kadiddlehopper wrote:
<quoted text>If that's true (and you didn't provide any links saying it was) I have to ask you why you hate capitalism? Don't they have a God-given right to raise their rates and make as much money as possible? Why do you hate America?
If I had a link I get the sense it wouldn't be good enough for you.

But I don't regardless. I know its true because I and many of my compadres have lived it. The facts are there. The only part that would bother me about you not believing me is, you would just prove to be another partisan hack who would rather stay uneducated and comfortable, then go against anything other then the party line. It bothers me because America doesn't need that right now. We need to make our politicians work for US again.

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#20 Mar 1, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
Clem 'i' think your fighting a lost cause on Spirit.
What does a communist regime have to do with what I'm talking about???
JohnnyComeLately you 'hit the nail on the head', there's a lot of thought goes into figuring out how to 'screw' the public next and we're all suckers for it. Our government is getting excellent @ it, same as many large company employers. Who learned from who is the question. But it brings in big bucks. I guess it can be explained in one word "GREED!"
*=* Those that got get, those that ain't got get got!*=*
LOL! I don't know what he's talking about.....I'm a lover, not a fighter!

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