Preacher

Cicero, IL

#84 Jan 11, 2013
Jesus SAYS, point blank in Matthew 5:48; Be ye therefore PERFECT, just as your Heavenly Father is perfect. And Jesus goes on to tell the world that righteousness to God is like a fruit tree. A perfectly healthy fruit tree bears enough fruit that all of it's branches, including it's top, shall sweep the ground, and the tree shall break up and collapse before even a single fruit ever drops on it's own from the tree! Even 500 fruits will NEVER cut it! You are to SWEEP THE GROUND under the weight of your fruits! Any tree that does not produce enough fruit to sweep the ground with it's TOPS is chopped down and Burned!(Matthew 7:19) As is any fruit tree that loses branches and/or fruits, or breaks up, either in windstorms, hailstorms, or by the weight of the fruits!

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Nehwon

#85 Jan 11, 2013
Preacher wrote:
Jesus SAYS, point blank in Matthew 5:48; Be ye therefore PERFECT, just as your Heavenly Father is perfect. And Jesus goes on to tell the world that righteousness to God is like a fruit tree. A perfectly healthy fruit tree bears enough fruit that all of it's branches, including it's top, shall sweep the ground, and the tree shall break up and collapse before even a single fruit ever drops on it's own from the tree! Even 500 fruits will NEVER cut it! You are to SWEEP THE GROUND under the weight of your fruits! Any tree that does not produce enough fruit to sweep the ground with it's TOPS is chopped down and Burned!(Matthew 7:19) As is any fruit tree that loses branches and/or fruits, or breaks up, either in windstorms, hailstorms, or by the weight of the fruits!
"Jesus SAYS, point blank in Matthew 5:48; Be ye therefore PERFECT, just as your Heavenly Father is perfect."

If I could be perfect, why would I need God? If I were perfect, I would be God.

You set an expectation no person can achieve.

And now you have an opening to shame people to conform to your desires in order to rule over them.

This sounds like a tactic Satan would use.

Perhaps you will quote some Scripture to prove me wrong now.

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#86 Jan 12, 2013
Knock it off, guys. You're acting like Preacher is mentally deficient.

(Note to Preacher: "mentally deficient" means "stupid.")

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Or maybe I just forgot!!

#87 Jan 12, 2013
Preacher wrote:
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Yes it is true that you must be born again. But it still does NOT guarantee that you will go to Heaven! In order to get into Heaven, you MUST follow EVERY single commandment in the Bible (both Old AND New Testaments)! That expressively includes the Laws of Moses, the Prophets, the Gospels of Jesus, and the Gospels of Paul. To secure a place in Heaven, you need Both Jesus's grace/forgiveness AND self righteousness in the Law! To get into Heaven, you must have the Works of Grace AND the Works of the Law!
One or the other will NEVER get you into Heaven! You need BOTH!!!
I'll agree that righteousness is needed. Christ did say, "not everyone that calls me Lord will enter the kingdom but only those that do the will of my Father".

BUT...if you're going to try to be self righteous...you need to be circumsized and keep the whole law. BTW...not possible.

Romans says it's by faith from first to last.

You really don't know what you're talking about and need to seek God for the truth...not man.

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Kenya, E.Africa.

#88 Jan 12, 2013
So in short, it's ok to remarry if your spouse dies or cheats on you/runs away with another partner?

“A perfect world..”

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Kenya, E.Africa.

#89 Jan 12, 2013
wow. I get negative judgeits for just asking a genuine question!

wow. just wow.
Nancy

Reading, PA

#90 Jan 12, 2013
Nancy wrote:
Try, try, try again until you succeed.
Thanks for the prop, Dudedad. I don't see anything wrong with trying again. Divorce can be a good thing, better than killing each other. LOL

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#91 Jan 12, 2013
DO YOUR OWN THING..Love Is Love.
Sometimes Chicks NEED to marry at LEAST three times to FIND a REAL MAN...ya get tired of the BABYSITTING routine..
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#92 Jan 12, 2013
Colorado Chick wrote:
DO YOUR OWN THING..Love Is Love.
Sometimes Chicks NEED to marry at LEAST three times to FIND a REAL MAN...ya get tired of the BABYSITTING routine..
THREE TIMES?!?!? Holy mother of god!! I dont think I would get paid enough to babysit three times...
Hows about just "living in sin"

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Rowlett Tx

#93 Jan 12, 2013
reebie wrote:
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THREE TIMES?!?!? Holy mother of god!! I dont think I would get paid enough to babysit three times...
Hows about just "living in sin"
What ever works for the people involved is fine by me :)

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#94 Jan 12, 2013
reebie wrote:
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THREE TIMES?!?!? Holy mother of god!! I dont think I would get paid enough to babysit three times...
Hows about just "living in sin"
Nah, Cruz when ya are married and Divorce the Wife usually gets it all.. THAT includes Vacation homes, the servants and the hulky tsannef land scraper
OOOH BABE!!!...
Ya Live in Sin.
The Chick splits with her personal belongings.. AND that's it!!
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#95 Jan 12, 2013
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> Nah, Cruz when ya are married and Divorce the Wife usually gets it all.. THAT includes Vacation homes, the servants and the hulky tsannef land scraper
OOOH BABE!!!...
Ya Live in Sin.
The Chick splits with her personal belongings.. AND that's it!!
I dunno, it all sounds like way too much work to me!
I think Ill keep my place, my stuff, and let the hulky landscaper, and maybe the pool boy visit on occasion..:)
wonder what the preacher thinks about that? Im just tryin to stay out of hell ya know...
Preacher

Cicero, IL

#96 Jan 12, 2013
Mister_ E wrote:
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I'll agree that righteousness is needed. Christ did say, "not everyone that calls me Lord will enter the kingdom but only those that do the will of my Father".
BUT...if you're going to try to be self righteous...you need to be circumsized and keep the whole law. BTW...not possible.
Romans says it's by faith from first to last.
You really don't know what you're talking about and need to seek God for the truth...not man.
You just don't get it, do you? In order to enter Heaven and stay out of Hell, you NEED Faith in Jesus AND self righteousness in the Law!
Preacher

Cicero, IL

#97 Jan 12, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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"Jesus SAYS, point blank in Matthew 5:48; Be ye therefore PERFECT, just as your Heavenly Father is perfect."
If I could be perfect, why would I need God? If I were perfect, I would be God.
You set an expectation no person can achieve.
And now you have an opening to shame people to conform to your desires in order to rule over them.
This sounds like a tactic Satan would use.
Perhaps you will quote some Scripture to prove me wrong now.
Matthew 7:21-23 says; Not everyone who calls me "Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but ONLY those who do the will of my Father who is in Heaven. Many will come after me saying "Lord, didn't we eat at your table, drive out demons in your name and such?" And I will say to them; "I never knew you! Depart from me, you workers of evil!"

God's will for ALL is to have Jesus in their hearts AND self righteousness that equals God's righteousness. Not a SINGLE sin will EVER be tolerated, and even the SMALLEST sin will send you straight to Hell!

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Kenya, E.Africa.

#98 Jan 12, 2013
You know you're right if people refuse to reply to you directly..

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#99 Jan 13, 2013
African_shadows wrote:
You know you're right if people refuse to reply to you directly..
Rotflmao!!! Um, no, that's not quite right. But it's awful nice of you to back up the ill informed preacher man... without blind faith there would be no religion. Keep the faith!

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#100 Jan 14, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>That was EVA Gabor, ya maroon.
Yeah, I always mix up those two, but who really cares? Acehole!
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#101 Jan 14, 2013
The morons just keep them all! The first, the second etc etc problem solved.
Facts Are Facts

Medford, NY

#102 Jan 14, 2013
African_shadows wrote:
wow. I get negative judgeits for just asking a genuine question!
wow. just wow.
No, I think you get them for what you have said in the past......

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#103 Jan 14, 2013
African_shadows wrote:
wow. I get negative judgeits for just asking a genuine question!
wow. just wow.
Well, Africa I'll have you know I haven't given you any bad judgies. I think you're alright.

I don't see the big deal. As far as I've seen anyway, you're a really nice fellow.

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