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Mar 22, 2013
 

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shouldn't a happened to begin with, another Bush
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Mar 22, 2013
 

Between the Lines of Bush’s 9/11 Speech
by Tommi Avicolli Mecca‚ Sep. 18‚ 2006
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On Monday September 11, George Bush made an address to the nation which attempted to justify an unjustifiable invasion of Iraq and a failed “war on terror” that has put our country at greater risk than it was on that tragic day five years ago when the Twin Towers collapsed. Bush:“The terrorists fear freedom as much as they do our firepower. They are thrown into panic at the sight of an old man pulling the election lever, of girls enrolling in school or families worshipping God in their own traditions.”

What about apple pie and motherhood? Not to mention white picket fences on suburban homes with 2.3 kids and a shaggy dog. C’mon, let’s all sing:“Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens...” Bush:“Whatever mistakes have been made in Iraq, the worst mistake would be to think that if we pulled out, the terrorists would leave us alone. They will not leave us alone. They will follow us.”

And the terrorists will stop following us around if we win the war in Iraq? They’ll just all go back to the dull little lives they had before they were terrorists? Maybe they’ll work for Halliburton and help rebuild the countries we’re demolishing in our attempt to stop the terrorists from following us around. Oh, and Mr. Bush, I have a bridge I’d love to sell you.

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Mar 22, 2013
 
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Oh, and one last thing - how many terrorists have flown planes into large buildings in the US since we revamped the TSA system?
So, you are willing to trade your freedom and liberty for a false sense of security. I am not. I will continue to have nothing but contempt for the TSA and pity for those who blindly follow the government in the false belief that Uncle Sam is only doing what is right, to protect us.

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Mar 22, 2013
 
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Thanks for responding to my post.
So I take it your proposal is just to shitcan the system and let the chips fall as they may, eh?
Let me know what country you want to try your theory out on ahead of time - meanwhile, I've got an overseas trip to plan for.
Tell me, what safety purpose does it serve to remove your jacket before you enter the metal detector, or the full body scanner.
Answer, none whatsoever, since it is no longer required at some airports.

What safety purpose does it serve to remove your shoes before the metal detector, or full body scanner.
Answer, none whatsoever, otherwise they would not waive that requirement at some airports.

What safety purpose does it serve, to have an elderly white women remove her Depends undergarment because of wetness and a suspicious lump.
Answer, none whatsoever, it only serves to humiliate the senior citizen.

What safety purpose does it serve to have an adult shove his hand down the pants of a 5 year old boy.
Answer,none whatsoever, it only serve to titillate the pedophile employed by the TSA.

What safety purpose does it serve to pat down a 3 tear old in a wheelchair due to Spina Bifida and attempt to prevent the parent from video taping it.
Answer,none whatsoever, except to attempt to prevent the abuse from being used as evidence of their criminal behavior.

I could go on and on, but you get the point.... I hope

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Mar 22, 2013
 
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Tell me, what safety purpose does it serve to remove your jacket before you enter the metal detector, or the full body scanner.
Answer, none whatsoever, since it is no longer required at some airports.
What safety purpose does it serve to remove your shoes before the metal detector, or full body scanner.
Answer, none whatsoever, otherwise they would not waive that requirement at some airports.
What safety purpose does it serve, to have an elderly white women remove her Depends undergarment because of wetness and a suspicious lump.
Answer, none whatsoever, it only serves to humiliate the senior citizen.
What safety purpose does it serve to have an adult shove his hand down the pants of a 5 year old boy.
Answer,none whatsoever, it only serve to titillate the pedophile employed by the TSA.
What safety purpose does it serve to pat down a 3 tear old in a wheelchair due to Spina Bifida and attempt to prevent the parent from video taping it.
Answer,none whatsoever, except to attempt to prevent the abuse from being used as evidence of their criminal behavior.
I could go on and on, but you get the point.... I hope
Thanks for responding to my questions with more questions.

I assume you don't have any answers to better, more effective system than we have now - which puts you in the same bucket as the rest of the lawmakers in Congress.

Thanks for proving my point.

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Mar 22, 2013
 
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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So, you are willing to trade your freedom and liberty for a false sense of security. I am not. I will continue to have nothing but contempt for the TSA and pity for those who blindly follow the government in the false belief that Uncle Sam is only doing what is right, to protect us.
Thanks for responding to my post.

Just make sure, the next time you fly - to let the TSA agents at the security checkpoint know just exactly the way you feel. Be sure to point out that you have nothing but contempt for them and they're all a bunch of losers.

Btw - I'd get used to full-body cavity searches beforehand if I were you.

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Thanks for responding to my post.
Just make sure, the next time you fly - to let the TSA agents at the security checkpoint know just exactly the way you feel. Be sure to point out that you have nothing but contempt for them and they're all a bunch of losers.
Btw - I'd get used to full-body cavity searches beforehand if I were you.
In other words, exercising my guaranteed freedom of speech will mean opening myself up to illegal search. Welcome to the America of today. Be a good little citizen. Don't dare say anything against the government or any of her employees or policies. Don't exercise the rights that they allow you to have. We should be grateful that Big brother even deigns to acknowledge our existence. After all, the government is protecting you from the boogie man, in the latest incarnation as a muslim terrorist.

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Thanks for responding to my questions with more questions.
I assume you don't have any answers to better, more effective system than we have now - which puts you in the same bucket as the rest of the lawmakers in Congress.
Thanks for proving my point.
Okay mr TSA apologist. How's this for suggestions.
Do not employ any TSA screener until they have passed a full background check.
Use the metal detectors, explosives detectors, drug and explosive dogs.
Use facial recognition software to target potential criminals.
Use behavior screening techniques.
Use profiling matrix.
Use common sense.

Eliminate the requirement to remove shoes and jackets.

Eliminate the full body searches of children in public spaces. Parent or guardian must be present at all times.

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Okay mr TSA apologist. How's this for suggestions.
Do not employ any TSA screener until they have passed a full background check.
Use the metal detectors, explosives detectors, drug and explosive dogs.
Use facial recognition software to target potential criminals.
Use behavior screening techniques.
Use profiling matrix.
Use common sense.
Eliminate the requirement to remove shoes and jackets.
Eliminate the full body searches of children in public spaces. Parent or guardian must be present at all times.
Thanks for responding with the same old lunacy.

Let's put some bullet points on these items, shall we?

1) Although I believe it is a good idea to perform a background check on TSA applicants, TSA already requires a full background check prior to employment:

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/33...

2) There are approximately 14,000 airports in the US. Out of that 14,000, only about 5,000 is paved, so let's use that number, ok? With some airports employing 3-4 security stations or more, that's about 20,000 security stations - at the paved airports only. Flights usually run 20 hours per day, meaning you'd require 2 shifts per security station. Add more security lanes and that would bring your total up to 6 shifts per day. 6 times 20,000 is 120,000 drug and explosive sniffing dogs. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a lot of additional costs in dog food alone. I'm already paying over $10 per one-way ticket in 9-1-1 taxes.

3) Facial recognition software isn't cheap either - at $500 per license, that's $40 million without the cost of the hardware. See that 9-1-1 tax going up?

4) The next three can be lumped into one - it's all in the training. It also depends on how much Americans really want to pay additionally for this training. But, ok let's do it.

5)I bring up the case of Richard Reid. Not only to illustrate the point of inspecting shoes for explosives - afterall we have "explosive-sniffin'" dogs now, right? But what happens when they start smuggling weapons in their shoes? For the same reason prisoners are forced to remove their shoes - I would expect no less at an airport security check. You can't trust anyone nowadays.

6) Children can be used as pawns - by adults and terrorists.

http://archive.adl.org/Israel/manipulation.as...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/alqaeda-t...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bo...

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Mar 22, 2013
 
So, M69 I here you saying, do-away with the TSA as a part of the sequester?
full background check - similar to how they do before you can purchase a gun?
So how many of them
on back ground checks were found to be thieves,
or is that just something they started recently?
And it is government work so "WE" know they're hard at it, right?
Bishop to Queens knight 4 - pawn becomes a Queen.
Can U tell I'm bored?

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Thanks for responding with the same old lunacy.
Let's put some bullet points on these items, shall we?
1) Although I believe it is a good idea to perform a background check on TSA applicants, TSA already requires a full background check prior to employment:
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/33...
2) There are approximately 14,000 airports in the US. Out of that 14,000, only about 5,000 is paved, so let's use that number, ok? With some airports employing 3-4 security stations or more, that's about 20,000 security stations - at the paved airports only. Flights usually run 20 hours per day, meaning you'd require 2 shifts per security station. Add more security lanes and that would bring your total up to 6 shifts per day. 6 times 20,000 is 120,000 drug and explosive sniffing dogs. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a lot of additional costs in dog food alone. I'm already paying over $10 per one-way ticket in 9-1-1 taxes.
3) Facial recognition software isn't cheap either - at $500 per license, that's $40 million without the cost of the hardware. See that 9-1-1 tax going up?
4) The next three can be lumped into one - it's all in the training. It also depends on how much Americans really want to pay additionally for this training. But, ok let's do it.
5)I bring up the case of Richard Reid. Not only to illustrate the point of inspecting shoes for explosives - afterall we have "explosive-sniffin'" dogs now, right? But what happens when they start smuggling weapons in their shoes? For the same reason prisoners are forced to remove their shoes - I would expect no less at an airport security check. You can't trust anyone nowadays.
6) Children can be used as pawns - by adults and terrorists.
http://archive.adl.org/Israel/manipulation.as...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/alqaeda-t...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bo...
THANKS FOR RESPONDING WITH THE SAME OLD TIRED GOVERNMENT DOES NO WRONG LINE.

Forget about the cost, after all how can you put a price tag on your security. There is no price too big to pay by the taxpayers to ensure safety.*sarcasm*

Putting your shoes thru the xray machine only guarantees that you will walk thru the metal detector without your shoes. it does not guarantee that illegal things will not be brought on an airplane.

This is America, not Palestine or Iraq or any other country. We are presumed innocent until proven guilty, unless you are trying to fly. The trauma visited upon children is wrong and no amount of whining by you will make it right.

THANKS FOR PLAYING. NOW BACK TO YOUR CORNER.

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THANKS FOR RESPONDING WITH THE SAME OLD TIRED GOVERNMENT DOES NO WRONG LINE.
Forget about the cost, after all how can you put a price tag on your security. There is no price too big to pay by the taxpayers to ensure safety.*sarcasm*
Putting your shoes thru the xray machine only guarantees that you will walk thru the metal detector without your shoes. it does not guarantee that illegal things will not be brought on an airplane.
This is America, not Palestine or Iraq or any other country. We are presumed innocent until proven guilty, unless you are trying to fly. The trauma visited upon children is wrong and no amount of whining by you will make it right.
THANKS FOR PLAYING. NOW BACK TO YOUR CORNER.
But, but, but...how are we going to reduce the deficit by spending all this money? Oh, that's right - you f*cks just want to tax the sh*t out of the middle class, right? Kinda' like taxing the sh*t outta' the middle class to pay for "armed police in each and every school in the United States."

Let me ask you this Einstein - how many US flights have been hijacked since TSA was put into play after 9-1-1? How many dangerous weapons have been confiscated since then by airport security scans and searches?

If your answer to question #1 is anything more than zero - you're wrong. If your answer to question #2 is anything less than 1 million, you would be wrong again.

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But, but, but...how are we going to reduce the deficit by spending all this money? Oh, that's right - you f*cks just want to tax the sh*t out of the middle class, right? Kinda' like taxing the sh*t outta' the middle class to pay for "armed police in each and every school in the United States."
Let me ask you this Einstein - how many US flights have been hijacked since TSA was put into play after 9-1-1? How many dangerous weapons have been confiscated since then by airport security scans and searches?
If your answer to question #1 is anything more than zero - you're wrong. If your answer to question #2 is anything less than 1 million, you would be wrong again.
Make up your mind. Either I am an angry conservative republican, because my party lost or I am a liberal democrat who wants to tax you to oblivion.

How many plots to hijack a plane were foiled by TSA. Answer NONE

Many confiscated items were not "dangerous". nail files, tweezers, bottled water, snow globes, nail clippers, 4 oz shampoos.

How many women were groped by TSA thugs?
How many children were traumatized by TSA thugs?
How many elderly were humiliated by TSA thugs?
How many wheelchair users were humiliated by TSA thugs?
The system was broken at its inception and has only gotten worse. But anything is acceptable, as long as I am given a false sense of security. Any indignity is acceptable, as long as Big Brothers tells me it is for my own good, to foil the boogie man.

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