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Global warming is happening is '10 times faster than at any time in...

There are 134 comments on the Daily Mail story from Aug 2, 2013, titled Global warming is happening is '10 times faster than at any time in.... In it, Daily Mail reports that:

American scientists said if temperatures keep rising at the current rapid pace, significant stress will be places on terrestrial ecosystems Animals face needing to move toward the poles or higher in the mountains by at least one kilometre a year, the study claims Climatologists at Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment believe extreme weather ... (more)

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#104 Aug 15, 2013
Primeval Predator wrote:
Its not happining and why is this on the dino forum?
If you think it isn't happening, that would explain why it is on your forum. The number of negative icons for the science posters are the goal. You are very useful, Mr. Idiot.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#105 Aug 15, 2013
Coprolite1 wrote:
But we might not........
Brilliant, Watson! You have an incredible grasp of the obvious!

Isn't that the debate, after all?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#106 Aug 15, 2013
A Wintonensis wrote:
I bet nobody's going to agree with me but; You know how we send space probes into space, and they come back with a bunch of rocks(sometimes), well the thing is the Earth has lost weight(Newtons) so we go closer to the sun and/or further away from the sun. Any one agree?
Oh I agree completely!

But the probes bringing rocks back from outer space has made the earth heavier, so I think we're in danger of flinging off into space.

Don't worry about whether anyone will agree with you. They're all crazy anyway.

“'QUANDARY'”

Since: Oct 12

Cheshire UK

#107 Aug 15, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Brilliant, Watson! You have an incredible grasp of the obvious!
Isn't that the debate, after all?
When you are talking to those that are blinded by facts and figures, by those that can not see the wood for the trees.

You have to be specifically obvious, and even then people like you will always fail to see the truth.

In the general scheme of things, we humans are of no consequence.

Since: Aug 13

Kailua, HI

#108 Aug 15, 2013
Coprolite1 wrote:
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When you are talking to those that are blinded by facts and figures, by those that can not see the wood for the trees.
You have to be specifically obvious, and even then people like you will always fail to see the truth.
In the general scheme of things, we humans are of no consequence.
You could not be more incorrect.

Extinction is actually a natural and common phenomenon – of the roughly 4 billion species estimated to have evolved on Earth, some 99% are gone. In the past, the extinction rate has been balanced by the evolution of new species, but the current, human-caused extinction is happening so fast that evolution cannot keep pace. Barnosky estimates that the current rate is 1,000 times the natural rate, putting it easily on a par with the so-called “big 5” mass extinction events.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v471/n73...
Josh

Rochester, NY

#109 Aug 16, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Hey Josh, while you are stewing with your own sauce, others are marching ahead leaving you behind. Have a look:
A Met Office spokesman said: "There is a vast body of robust, peer-reviewed evidence produced by leading research centres around the world which shows that the world has warmed and most of that warming is very likely due to an increase in greenhouse gases caused by human activity. We'd welcome Gary Streeter to come in to our Exeter HQ to speak to our scientists about that evidence."
He added: "Our forecasts are right six days out of seven and today's four-day forecasts is as accurate as our one-day forecast was 30 years ago. For example, 87.7% of our next day maximum temperature forecasts are accurate to within 2C."
Read more: http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Devon-MP-Gary...
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And the next ice age is when?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#110 Aug 16, 2013
The Integral wrote:
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You could not be more incorrect.
Unless he is speaking for himself. HE is certainly of no consequence.
Josh wrote:
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And the next ice age is when?
Again, of no consequence. Whether in 10,000 years or 50,000 years we'll deal with it. It is much easier to add energy than to remove it.
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#112 Oct 5, 2013
The Integral wrote:
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Climate change deniers are a huge problem. For some reason that escapes me they do not believe in science. Unless there is a global concerted effort to address climate change future generations are in for a very rough time. So yes, I do believe that people who refuse to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence about Global Warming are first degree trolls. You use a computer. You fly in airplanes. You drive in cars. All of these were developed by science. Without science we would still be in the Dark Ages.
There are some people who question Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy (ACDDGCDO) which in my opinion does not make them deniers of science.

Reasonable people generally accept the scientific facts of climate science:

1) Climate changes
2) CO2 is a GHG
3) Man puts CO2 in the air when burning fossil fuels
4) Earth has, on average, warmed during the past 2 centuries

..........

One does not have to disagree with the facts to be reasonably skeptical of the conclusions of the experts.

There are many reports of scientific studies when viewed in the context of a group that suggests people should be skeptical of ACDDCGCDO. A good place to start:

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

When reading the opinions of the experts it is good to remember a scientific mind is a skeptical mind.

-koolaid
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#113 Oct 8, 2013
Stage 3: Deny It's a Problem

Once they've progressed through the first two stages and admitted global warming is happening and human-caused, contrarians generally move on to Stage 3, denying it's a problem. Lomborg and Ridley did their best Tony the Tiger impressions in The Washington Post and Murdoch's Wall Street Journal, respectively, arguing that global warming is 'Grrrrreat!'(or at least nothing to worry about).

I've previously discussed why this argument is a complete risk management failure. When faced with a potentially catastrophic outcome for something as important as the global climate, it's a no-brainer to take action to make sure we avoid that possible outcome. Moreover, Lomborg's and Ridley's arguments are based on cherry picking data. For example, Lomborg talks about how droughts have not worsened in the United States, according to the IPCC, but fails to mention that the IPCC predicts that US droughts will intensify over the next century.

In his editorial, Ridley takes a rosy view about the impact of climate change on crop yields that is not supported by the scientific research. He argues that climate impacts won't be bad in a middle-of-the-road emissions scenario, but as Climate Progress reports, the scientist on whose work Ridley based this argument previously explained,

"In his article, Mr. Ridley is just plain wrong about future global warming."

Moreover, by painting an unjustifiably rosy picture and thus misleading the public, he's helping to ensure that we'll blow past that middling greenhouse gas emissions scenario (which requires significant emissions reductions efforts) and commit ourselves to much worse climate change consequences.
[theguardian]
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#115 Oct 9, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP)- Starting in about a decade, Kingston, Jamaica, will probably be off-the-charts hot - permanently. Other places will soon follow. Singapore in 2028. Mexico City in 2031. Cairo in 2036. Phoenix and Honolulu in 2043.

And eventually the whole world in 2047.

A new study on global warming pinpoints the probable dates for when cities and ecosystems around the world will regularly experience hotter environments the likes of which they have never seen before.

And for dozens of cities, mostly in the tropics, those dates are a generation or less away.

"This paper is both innovative and sobering," said Oregon State University professor Jane Lubchenco, former head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, who was not involved in the study.

To arrive at their projections, the researchers used weather observations, computer models and other data to calculate the point at which every year from then on will be warmer than the hottest year ever recorded over the last 150 years.

For example, the world as a whole had its hottest year on record in 2005. The new study, published Wednesday in the journal Nature, says that by the year 2047, every year that follows will probably be hotter than that record-setting scorcher.

Eventually, the coldest year in a particular city or region will be hotter than the hottest year in its past.

Study author Camilo Mora and his colleagues said they hope this new way of looking at climate change will spur governments to do something before it is too late.

"Now is the time to act," said another study co-author, Ryan Longman.

The 2047 date for the whole world is based on continually increasing emissions of greenhouse gases from the burning of coal, oil and natural gases. If the world manages to reduce its emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases, that would be pushed to as late as 2069, according to Mora.

But for now, Mora said, the world is rushing toward the 2047 date.

Mora forecasts that the unprecedented heat starts in 2020 with Manokwa, Indonesia. Then Kingston, Jamaica. Within the next two decades, 59 cities will be living in what is essentially a new climate, including Singapore, Havana, Kuala Lumpur and Mexico City.

By 2043, 147 cities - more than half of those studied - will have shifted to a hotter temperature regime that is beyond historical records.

The first U.S. cities to feel that would be Honolulu and Phoenix, followed by San Diego and Orlando, Fla., in 2046. New York and Washington will get new climates around 2047, with Los Angeles, Detroit, Houston, Chicago, Seattle, Austin and Dallas a bit later.

Mora calculated that the last of the 265 cities to move into their new climate will be Anchorage, Alaska - in 2071. There's a five-year margin of error on the estimates.

Unlike previous research, the study highlights the tropics more than the polar regions. In the tropics, temperatures don't vary much, so a small increase can have large effects on ecosystems, he said. A 3-degree change is not much to polar regions but is dramatic in the tropics, which hold most of the Earth's biodiversity, he said.

The Mora team found that by one measurement - ocean acidity - Earth has already crossed the threshold into an entirely new regime. That happened in about 2008, with every year since then more acidic than the old record, according to study co-author Abby Frazier.

Of the species studied, coral reefs will be the first stuck in a new climate - around 2030 - and are most vulnerable to climate change, Mora said.

Pennsylvania State University climate scientist Michael Mann said the research "may be actually presenting an overly rosy scenario when it comes to how close we are to passing the threshold for dangerous climate impacts."

"By some measures, we are already there," he said.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#116 Oct 10, 2013
Coprolite1 wrote:
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When you are talking to those that are blinded by facts and figures, by those that can not see the wood for the trees.
You have to be specifically obvious, and even then people like you will always fail to see the truth.
In the general scheme of things, we humans are of no consequence.
Speak for yourself, you piece of shit.

In the general scheme of life, I am very important.

Note you called yourself a piece of shit first. And a very old one. Problems with self-image?

“'QUANDARY'”

Since: Oct 12

Cheshire UK

#117 Oct 10, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Speak for yourself, you piece of shit.
In the general scheme of life, I am very important?
Only to yourself!
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#118 Oct 10, 2013
Coprolite1 wrote:
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Only to yourself!
How do you know? Are you stalking him?

Like most of your posts, this is also based on petrified sh*t.

“'QUANDARY'”

Since: Oct 12

Cheshire UK

#119 Oct 10, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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How do you know? Are you stalking him?
Like most of your posts, this is also based on petrified sh*t.
That's extremely witty and most original...

Why not write all your funny little wise cracks down...

...On the back of a postage stamp!!

“'QUANDARY'”

Since: Oct 12

Cheshire UK

#120 Oct 10, 2013
...And then stick it up your ar$e!
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#121 Oct 10, 2013
Coprolite1 wrote:
...And then stick it up your ar$e!
Ahh. The last refuge of the infantile denialist.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#122 Mar 16, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Speak for yourself, you piece of shit.
In the general scheme of life, I am very important.
LOL, caveman, everyone is important to themselves.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#123 Mar 16, 2014
Fun Facts wrote:
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LOL, caveman, everyone is important to themselves.
LOL. Do you know what its name means?

OTOH Mr Caveman's posts are always clever and humorous..

“One Shall Fall,One Will Stand.”

Since: Mar 11

Albany

#124 Mar 17, 2014
Climate Change happens periodly in time. First, when Earth was young, there was the Snowball Event, in which the whole planet was frozen even the deepest ocean trench was frozen. Then in the Carbonfiourus to the middle Triassic, there was a time of global rainforests, then in the global extinction of the Permian, the world transformed into a desert ecosystem. The Jurassic Period went through a global change in which almost every habitat was a forest. Then the Createatious Period the world was drying up due to CO2 emissions rising from volcanic eruptions. After the KT extinction, the world started to cool causing a multiple number of Ice Ages. What I'm saying is climate change is gradual. It's just that recent human activity has increased the planet's gradual environmental change.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#125 Mar 17, 2014
Maxos Gojira wrote:
Climate Change happens periodly in time. First, when Earth was young, there was the Snowball Event, in which the whole planet was frozen even the deepest ocean trench was frozen. Then in the Carbonfiourus to the middle Triassic, there was a time of global rainforests, then in the global extinction of the Permian, the world transformed into a desert ecosystem. The Jurassic Period went through a global change in which almost every habitat was a forest. Then the Createatious Period the world was drying up due to CO2 emissions rising from volcanic eruptions. After the KT extinction, the world started to cool causing a multiple number of Ice Ages. What I'm saying is climate change is gradual. It's just that recent human activity has increased the planet's gradual environmental change.
Do you feel better now that you exposed your ignorance to the planet?

Have you heard of the greenhouse gas effect?

Have you noticed daily 90 million tons of man-made CO2 spewing into our breathing atmosphere?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-chang...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

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