Federal report: Warming is disrupting...

Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs

There are 1084 comments on the Cape Breton Post story from May 6, 2014, titled Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs. In it, Cape Breton Post reports that:

Global warming is rapidly turning America into a stormy and dangerous place, with rising seas and disasters costing citizens from flood-stricken Florida to the wildfire-ravaged West, according to a new U.S. federal scientific report.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#608 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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To poke fun at the studied ignorance and denial on all matters of the tee baggrz and "religious" kooks and right wing mouthbreathers. I also provide content, as in pointing out the first person on that "list of climate skeptics" is a Creationist who doesn't work in a relevant area and belongs to what I view as a cult - 7th Day. Some skeptic he is....
On your other, failed point: No one disputes the greenhouse gas mechanism.
OTOH, lots of id iots dispute that climate change is human mediated and has severe consequences. And a few laggard scientists in unrelated disciplines might take the same position still. They are a laughing stock in educated circles.
But the IQ is too low to grasp the difference between those two things: The perfectly well known greenhouse gas mechanism versus the ongoing, human caused effects of climate change. That distinction is too "subtle."
son, release your eco-anxiety!

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#609 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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On your other, failed point: No one disputes the greenhouse gas mechanism.
can you determine the role of man made co2 in the ghg mechanism?

and don't give me a simple minded response like it contributes to it.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#610 May 16, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>can you determine the role of man made co2 in the ghg mechanism
You are beneath uneducated and in the realm of impaired.

The basic, causal mechanism of greenhouse gases is not in dispute...by anyone. The concentration of greenhouse gases is going up, faster than it ever has without human inputs. The effects are laid out in the very report this thread concerns and in previous reports by, you know, qualified scientists.

The reports of interest are not by Creationists or Birthers or anti vaccine simpletons or fundamentalists or fossil fuel industry hacks or tee baggrz.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#611 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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You are beneath uneducated and in the realm of impaired.
The basic, causal mechanism of greenhouse gases is not in dispute...by anyone. The concentration of greenhouse gases is going up, faster than it ever has without human inputs. The effects are laid out in the very report this thread concerns and in previous reports by, you know, qualified scientists.
The reports of interest are not by Creationists or Birthers or anti vaccine simpletons or fundamentalists or fossil fuel industry hacks or tee baggrz.
is your position so indefensible, son, that you must pretend you're views are above others?
http://australianclimatemadness.com/2014/05/1...

'causal mechanism of ghg is not in dispute' is a straw man....if you're as bright as you like to believe, you'd know that. simple question.....as a percentage of atmosphere what is the amount of man made co2 emissions?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#612 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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Blah blah.
Well, maybe I do have Some answers. And obviously some of my posts are more than just asking questions, duh, but some of them I am really wondering about the facts and if we really understand what is going on. I would hate to see billions of dollars wasted and real harm come to people if we go off half cocked on trying to fix an issue that is not the big issue that some alarmists are making it out to be. I would hate to see "climatical change" used as an excuse to "redistribute wealth" globally and our money wasted by dictators and corrupt regimes. I see a bunch of countries with their hands out at these climate councils.
We don't want to repeat the 1970's alarmist hype, do we? http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-...

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#613 May 16, 2014
Christsharians on the DL wrote:
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I know that the methane pertinent to climate change today is not being released in pure form. It's from cattle.
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You are joking right? CH4 is CH4 is methane, whether it comes from cows, wetlands, volcanoes, oceans, oil explore escape, or any source does not matter. It is all the same compund.
If global warming is a problem(big IF), methane is theoretically the more potent greenhouse gas, so it is better to burn it and also get the energy from it, rather than to waste it. I am more interested in the not wasting energy part, but if it gives the climate alarmists a good feeling too, who am I to deny them that? We should do more to help farmers build biodigesters that efficiently turn crap into energy, and capture the methane instead of letting the farts escape. Those farts are valuable and if enough farmers had the capture systems setup, we could be closer to energy independence. Just sayin'
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#614 May 16, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>'causal mechanism of ghg is not in dispute' is a straw man....
The causal mechanism of greenhouse gases is not in dispute by anyone who is remotely sane.

There are a few Creationist stragglers or whatnot who might be able to say they have a higher education in some semi related discipline who argue the climate change projections are too dire.

Anything else is just the usual anti rationalism from tee baggrz or paid disinformers or people who think the earth is under 10000 years old.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#615 May 16, 2014
Naughtyrobot wrote:
<quoted text>Well, maybe I do have Some answers....an excuse to "redistribute wealth" globally
You got Some right weird capitalization.

You don't know anything. You were posting pure nonsense in going on about how you "simply have questions." That was a blatant falsehood. You are information deficient in your questions and in your answers [sic].

Now, the "redistribution" mantra: That's what this is all about for the fundies and tee baggrz anti rationalists. They don't know the science, they don't do data, they can't even post things that don't contradict what they posted an hour before, but they know they hate socialism [sic].
Your Walls fall out

United States

#616 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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You got Some right weird capitalization.
You don't know anything. You were posting pure nonsense in going on about how you "simply have questions." That was a blatant falsehood. You are information deficient in your questions and in your answers [sic].
Now, the "redistribution" mantra: That's what this is all about for the fundies and tee baggrz anti rationalists. They don't know the science, they don't do data, they can't even post things that don't contradict what they posted an hour before, but they know they hate socialism [sic].
Socialism is the system of a collapsing society. It is the last ditch effort of the state to hold power and remain. Functional societies do not have any use or need for socialism.

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#617 May 16, 2014
Naughtyrobot wrote:
...because the Earth has never had storms and floods and "weird" weather before the Industrial Revolution? The Earth never warmed and cooled and warmed ever before? Only since humans started building factories, snow in the summer never happened? http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/...
Someone needs to make volcanoes illegal, the Toba eruption purportedly caused a decade of winter!
And least we forget the sun:
http://www.techsonia.com/solar-wind-gusts-lin...

Even if the scientist 'suggest' that could be it.

Suggest...speculate. No one really knows. Stab in the dark ...raise the flag up the pole and see who salutes. Eggs in a basket.

Correct! No one knows.
Same old song and dance

United States

#618 May 16, 2014
Christsharians on the DL wrote:
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No, I'm not anon-Christian, or more likely you meant, anti-Christian.(Are you drunk?)
Most Christians are not fundamentalists. I don't have a problem with mainstream Christians. Just fundies, theocrats, mullahs, cults, etc.
I explained my problem with fundamentalists: It's a sign of genuine insanity to claim the earth is under 10000 years old. And that anti rationality goes hand in hand with all the other bigotries and dogmas and obstacles to progress I listed before.
You group anyone who doesn't kiss your ass or agree with every cry baby thing you say as a fundamentalist. It's your excuse for everything. Your favorite deflection and crutch. Anything that isn't radical progressivism and Big govertnment or pandering is fundamentalist Christianity's fault. You're delusional and FOS.
Same old song and dance

United States

#619 May 16, 2014
Christsharians on the DL wrote:
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I think we know..scratch that.
I know that the methane pertinent to climate change today is not being released in pure form. It's from cattle.
Now, if Siberian tundra melts wholesale we'll have to see.
The joke about holding your nose over co2 made no possible sense.
Clueless bastard you are. Didn't say anything about the truthfulness or accuracy of the CO2 comment. Pointing out your air of all knowledge while claiming that methane has a smell depending on where it comes from. People in glass houses.......
PS more atmospheric methane comes form vents on the ocean floor than anywhere else.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#620 May 16, 2014
Your Walls fall out wrote:
<quoted text> Socialism is the system of a collapsing society. It is the last ditch effort of the state to hold power and remain. Functional societies do not have any use or need for socialism.
Well of course in its way that's the most honest reply from a right winger here. It was never about the science, which even the mouthbreathing fundies deep down know is more correct than their prosperity jaysus mewlings.

Climate science is only about ideology for the anti rational right.

Of course the nitwits don't know what "socialism" means any more than they know what "correlation" or "Theory" or "testability" means. That's a given.

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#621 May 16, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
http://www.climatechangedispat ch.com/study-substantial-amoun t-of-arctic-warming-due-to-nat ural-forces.html
the hoax becomes more silenced by the hour....
Good find

If you can get through the top of this story, is good readling:
http://discovermagazine.com/2013/julyaug/15-f...

“GREAT OBAMA GLOBAL DEPRESSION”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington, NY

#622 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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That is a Birther / Benghazi caliber distortion. No data were suppressed.
The scientists were concerned with how data showing the rate of increase of warming slowed for a time would be used by deniers.
Anyway, you don't do data. You only do drill baby drill. By the way, remind me, you witlessly claimed not to know the age of the earth. Is the earth more than 10000 years old? Because only the lowest sort of ignoramus would reply, "No, it's not," or, "I don't know if the earth is more than 10000 years old." And that would be you.
snicker
A co-ordinated, pre-planned attack caught hilarity's brain damaged State Dept. with her depends down.

When barock found out about it, he went campaigning.

To cover up their gross negligence on the anniversary of 9/11, they blamed a video no one saw.

This was fraud to get re-elected.

You liberals are either all stupid or dishonest... in your case, both.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#623 May 16, 2014
Same old song and dance wrote:
<quoted text>Clueless bastard you are. Didn't say anything about the truthfulness or accuracy of the CO2 comment. Pointing out your air of all knowledge while claiming that methane has a smell depending on where it comes from. People in glass houses.......
PS more atmospheric methane comes form vents on the ocean floor than anywhere else.
You weren't making a point.

If you knew anything you'd know one of the major sources of methane is farm animals. It smells. What could have been a light hearted remark instead because another battle with a cohort of mouthbreathing denialists who _in fact_ think that the earth is under 10000 years old, that vaccines are more dangerous than the diseases, that the US is a governed by the buybull, that Rush Limbaugh knows more than qualified climate scientists, that Creationists are qualified scientists.

This is not me being all knowing. All that I just mentioned is grade school stuff. Literally. And those anti rationalists should be put in their anti intellectual backwater place more often in the media. Because none of their buybull science passes the laugh test.

Too bad if they don't like being condescended to. That's the appropriate reaction to their swill.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#624 May 16, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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A co-ordinated, pre-planned attack caught hilarity's brain damaged State Dept. with her depends down.
What's the coverup, again?

Why does it matter if it was a pre planned attack versus a natural outgrowth of a riot...a riot which surely took place? There's no difference. Except that the pre planned attack you now say it was would presumably be harder to defend against. Because it was pre planned, not spur of the moment. That would be exculpatory.

There was no coverup here. The government admitted that security was inadequate to the requirements on that day. That day of widespread riots.

And many more such attacks took place under other Presidents.

Again, it's just pure anti rationalism. Like the killer vaccines, like the 6000 year old earth, like Creationism, like climate science denial. It's sickness.

By the way, did you answer? Do you know the earth is more than 10000 years old? Don't weasel by saying you don't know [sic] how old the earth is. Do you know it's more than 10000 years old or do you not know that?

lol

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#625 May 16, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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The causal mechanism of greenhouse gases is not in dispute by anyone who is remotely sane.
There are a few Creationist stragglers or whatnot who might be able to say they have a higher education in some semi related discipline who argue the climate change projections are too dire.
Anything else is just the usual anti rationalism from tee baggrz or paid disinformers or people who think the earth is under 10000 years old.
haa haa haa

more theories by someone who religiously believes man made co2 is bringing hellfire and brimstone to the planet.

do the pigs and cows need to repent and atone their sins by plugging a wet vac up to their rectums?

the green house effect protects life on earth, right? so what are you worried about? earth is self regulating. co2 mitigation could cause more harm than good....or are you going to deny that?

alarmists are like flat earthers....they form their views based on popular consensus.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#626 May 16, 2014
They lost me when they said the sun didnt have anything to do with global warming...lol
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#627 May 16, 2014
Naughtyrobot wrote:
<quoted text>You are joking right? CH4 is CH4 is methane, whether it comes from cows, wetlands, volcanoes, oceans, oil explore escape, or any source does not matter. It is all the same compund.
If global warming is a problem(big IF), methane is theoretically the more potent greenhouse gas, so it is better to burn it and also get the energy from it'
This is complete confusion.

The point was about co2 not having a smell. We do see pure co2 emissions. I was merely saying that a leading source of methane is from farmed animals. It smells. That is all. I am sorry your tiny, prehistoric mind could not follow along.

No, methane is a more serious greenhouse gas, the mechanism of greenhouse gases is well known by everyone, and the answer is not to "burn more methane [sic]." The point is to minimize it (from being released from the tundra, from being expelled during oil and gas digs, from too many farm animals.) "Burning more methane [sic]" does not solve the problems of methane as a greenhouse gas. You're illogical at the most basic levels.

And it's all so very basic. But not to people who think it's the vaccines that are gonna kill civilization....

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