Federal report: Warming is disrupting...

Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs

There are 1084 comments on the Cape Breton Post story from May 6, 2014, titled Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs. In it, Cape Breton Post reports that:

Global warming is rapidly turning America into a stormy and dangerous place, with rising seas and disasters costing citizens from flood-stricken Florida to the wildfire-ravaged West, according to a new U.S. federal scientific report.

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“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#339 May 12, 2014
Our government has found that methane is a major cause of global warming and want to tax cow farts to control it. Once millions of buffalo roamed the plains. Thank good we had the sense to kill them to near extinction in the late 1800's. It would be hotter than hell if we had not taken steps to control buffalo farts!
litesong

Everett, WA

#340 May 12, 2014
[QUOTE who="william shatner's poop & plop"]Thank good(sic) we had the sense to kill them(buffalo) to near extinction in the late 1800's.[/QUOTE]

Ah...... white euros & transplanted euros revel in its ability to cause murder, torture & starvation on a genocidal level against 30,000 Native Tribes, world-wide.
Survey Sez

Owensboro, KY

#341 May 12, 2014
Alarmist

Tulsa, OK

#342 May 12, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Every bit of Arctic ice could melt and it would not raise ocean levels an inch. When floating ice melts in your glace does the glass run over?????. Al Gore that quack already said there would be no Arctic ice by 2013. Why don't the news channels report that?
FYI; not "all" arctic ice is floating. Your "ice in a glass" comparison shows your ignorance. Please refrain from using sharp objects.
litesong

Everett, WA

#344 May 12, 2014
[QUOTE who="william shatner's poop & plop"]Every bit of Arctic ice could melt and it would not raise ocean levels an inch.[/QUOTE]

"william shatner's poop & plop" repeats & doesn't understand AGW science. Good for "william shatner's poop & plop", as it reflects its lack of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

"william shatner's poop & plop" actually meant the melting Arctic sea ice would provide no world wide ocean rise. However, melting Arctic sea ice would provide some ocean rise.

As Arctic sea ice melts from the surface of the Arctic ocean, powerful primary feedbacks from the warmed Earth & melted sea ice, cause the dark waters to absorb solar energy in limited times. Warmer waters expand, raising sea level. Furthermore, numerous secondary (but also powerful) feedbacks occur. As sea ice increasingly melts earlier in the melt season, the sun is at ever higher angles of incidence to the sea surface waters, causing greater amounts of solar heat absorption in the Arctic. Any excess sea water heat absorption, occurring over downwellings, transports excess heat immediately to Arctic ocean continental shelves or even deeper Arctic Ocean depths for storage. As warmed waters sink in the downwellings, surrounding surface cold waters still covered by sea ice are drawn into the uncovered Arctic sea water downwellings, where cold waters again absorb solar heat & again are transported to Arctic shelves or Arctic Ocean depths for further heat storage.

Recently, it was discovered that the thin Arctic sea ice can also pass solar energy through to heat absorbing waters just below the ice. Again, the secondary & powerful feedback of increasing solar incidence angle to the waters, absorb solar heat ever earlier in the melt season with the sun higher & ultimately at its highest angle of incidence to the sea ice & water.

Yeah, melting Arctic sea ice, ever earlier in the season & very powerful combined primary & secondary feedbacks & heat storage, are & will increase Arctic Ocean warming outrageously. The seemingly minor Arctic Ocean sea ice area loss & limited months of heating, will add to a world wide ocean expansion & rise.

Sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, "william shatner's poop & plop" earns its name & rep.

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#346 May 12, 2014
Alarmist wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI; not "all" arctic ice is floating. Your "ice in a glass" comparison shows your ignorance. Please refrain from using sharp objects.
There is not land under the Arctic ice except the sea floor and a few feet off Greenland. The ice floats. The Antarctic has a large land mass under it but most is still floating ice

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#347 May 12, 2014
Arctic ice is rapidly expanding so this is another proof of global warming. It will get dark tonight so even more proof of global warming :)
Survey Sez

Owensboro, KY

#348 May 12, 2014
Bush Administration: global warming is real and a threat to the U.S. economy

May 30, 2008

The Bush Administration today released an assessment on climate. The report says human-driven climate change will damage ecosystems and pose challenges to key sectors of the U.S. economy including agriculture and energy.

Based largely on recent reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Scientific Assessment says that climate change is "very likely" due to human activities

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

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#349 May 12, 2014
Global warming/cooling/whatever is natural.

Liberals are turning it into a racket.

Unless they stop India and China from building more coal plants, it will be one more way liberals killed jobs in America.
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#350 May 12, 2014
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. This thread appears to be very good
Deniers are ignorant, lying gasbags who know nothing and distort what educated persons know perfectly well.

The oceans are a heat sink, but there are limits, and even before those limits are reached the increased temperature differentials between sea, air and land will increase storm strength and unpredictability relative to the recent, historical record.

But increasingly violent storms are not the most significant effects of climate change, anyway.

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#351 May 12, 2014
Survey Sez wrote:
Bush Administration: global warming is real and a threat to the U.S. economy
May 30, 2008
The Bush Administration today released an assessment on climate. The report says human-driven climate change will damage ecosystems and pose challenges to key sectors of the U.S. economy including agriculture and energy.
Based largely on recent reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Scientific Assessment says that climate change is "very likely" due to human activities
Citing the Bush administration? Yikes, we know global warming isn't true now. LoL.

Just kidding with ya. As I stated before, at least your posts on the subject are respectful. Too bad there are others here that ruin a good debate.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#352 May 12, 2014
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends entirely where the hot pool happens to be & where the monsoonal flows head out to the temperate rainbelt.
You did notice a rather large typhoon in the Philippines last year? As a result of mode change to mode#3 the equatorial flow in the Caribbean headed slowly E into the Atlantic basin with monsoonal turnoff in mid Atlantic. The result has been a lot of mid strength & small Atlantic hurricanes & relatively few Caribbean events. The Easterly wave storms are still a Caribbean feature & also associated with monsoonal flow heading into the Atlantic with the result that the Caribbean islands got occasionally flooded & the deep south got rather dry.
Additional CO2 does have a habit of turning up the heat but most of the heat ends up in the ocean surface, the heat capacity of water is so high that the rate of heating of the Ocean is relatively small, so the air above is mostly subject to random changes. It DOES however affect the climate mode as the ocean is a bigger surface area than the continent.
The climate mode for the record is the primary circulation pattern between equator & pole & back, there are 4 of them (it is NOT a seasonality), the effect of a mode is to run the Earth to an ambient surface temperature which is different for each mode due to the efficiency of cooling.
The effect of climate modes is to completely alter the distribution of vegetation on Earth for periods of time longer than centuries. The Tel-evangelists completely refuse to even acknowledge their existence despite showing up in fossil records right back to the late Vendian (900 million years ago).
Have a nice day: Ag
lol
what does a tel-evangelist have to do with the weather or climate?
thanks, hope your day is a good one, too!
SpaceBlues

Magnolia, TX

#353 May 12, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers are ignorant, lying gasbags who know nothing and distort what educated persons know perfectly well.
The oceans are a heat sink, but there are limits, and even before those limits are reached the increased temperature differentials between sea, air and land will increase storm strength and unpredictability relative to the recent, historical record.
But increasingly violent storms are not the most significant effects of climate change, anyway.
Especially decreasing ocean pH is horrible!
Survey Sez

Owensboro, KY

#354 May 12, 2014
The collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in West Antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported Monday.

The finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable. The rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.

“This is really happening,” said Thomas P. Wagner, who runs NASA’s programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.“There’s nothing to stop it now. But you are still limited by the physics of how fast the ice can flow.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/ear...
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#355 May 12, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>C)2 is at record levels, so what! The earth has not been getting warmer for 17 years. The computer models don't match the results. Years ago Al Gore
You know nothing and are proud of it. The earth has clearly been warming, even if you and your "sources" try to cherry pick a specific half decade or a specific locale on the planet.

No scientist disputes the effect of co2 in the atmosphere as you do. Some reactionary ones might say the projections are wrong, but not one disputes the effect of co2 in trapping heat as you do. None.

It's not Al Gore, fool. It's the entire scientific community with a very high consensus on the problem of climate change. But then tee baggrz reject science entirely whatever the subject. That's all this is about.
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#356 May 12, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
Global warming/cooling/whatever is natural.
Liberals are turning it into a racket.
Unless they stop India and China from building more coal plants, it will be one more way liberals killed jobs in America.
Here is that internal contradiction again: In the same post the claim is the warming is "natural" and yet comes "building more coal plants."

Someone who inadvertently acknowledges coal plants as a factor in any way is admitting it's not natural.

And the pace of the current warming is not eons, as before the industrial revolution, it is not centuries and in some ways even decades. Far, far faster.

But these are the usual anti vaccine, anti Evolution kooks mouthing off here.

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#357 May 12, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers are ignorant, lying gasbags who know nothing and distort what educated persons know perfectly well.
The oceans are a heat sink, but there are limits, and even before those limits are reached the increased temperature differentials between sea, air and land will increase storm strength and unpredictability relative to the recent, historical record.
But increasingly violent storms are not the most significant effects of climate change, anyway.
Being the educated person you are can you explain why there has been no warming for the last 17 years? Can you please explain why the term global warming has been dropped and become climate change? Can you explain why we have an expanding Arctic ice camp when Al Gore said years ago there would be no Arctic Ice at all? Thanks you so much and I will be looking forward to you educating us :)

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#358 May 12, 2014
Survey Sez wrote:
The collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in West Antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported Monday.
The finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable. The rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.
“This is really happening,” said Thomas P. Wagner, who runs NASA’s programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.“There’s nothing to stop it now. But you are still limited by the physics of how fast the ice can flow.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/ear...
I will be happy when they can tell me what the weather will be like next week let alone 100 years from now. Gore said years ago that the seas would be much higher by now. The 100 year perdition get you off the hook of of any proof. Thery is great when it takes 100 years to see the effect

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#359 May 12, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
You know nothing and are proud of it. The earth has clearly been warming, even if you and your "sources" try to cherry pick a specific half decade or a specific locale on the planet.
No scientist disputes the effect of co2 in the atmosphere as you do. Some reactionary ones might say the projections are wrong, but not one disputes the effect of co2 in trapping heat as you do. None.
It's not Al Gore, fool. It's the entire scientific community with a very high consensus on the problem of climate change. But then tee baggrz reject science entirely whatever the subject. That's all this is about.
If global warming is a provable fact why have they dropped calling it global warming and now call it climate change????? The climate has always changed and always will. It has been much warmer and much colder and man doesn't cause it. We are at record level of CO2 but there has been no warming the way the model claims. GIGO. The computer models don't match the results. I love that you think the people who can't write a computer program for Obama care can change the climate. ROFLMAO

“Denny Crain”

Since: Jan 11

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#360 May 12, 2014
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/11/a-note-...
In 1973 the Times headline was we are on the brink of a coming ice age :)

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