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Tank Murdoch wrote: <quoted text>
Well heck if Jay says so he must be right, after all he is a art major.... Answer the question f*ckhead. Oh wait, you can't.
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Tank Murdoch wrote: <quoted text>
psst,
thats "Real Information"-the google king Nope - corn is down 1.80 in the past two weeks. No google needed.
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Tank Murdoch wrote: Follow the money Calvin and the chipmunks;
The Economist magazine last week reported that Pickens' plan isn't entirely altruistic, however. According to the magazine, Pickens' company Mesa Power has invested $2 billion in a Texas panhandle wind farm. But Pickens, chairman and founder of BP Capital Management, also regularly points out he doesn't need the money.
One of Pickens' companies also owns about 90 of the roughly 500 publicly available natural gas stations with another of his companies, Clean Energy.
<quoted text> copy and paste ... From Tank Murdoch the Drama Queen.
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Jay wrote: <quoted text>
Nope - corn is down 1.80 in the past two weeks. No google needed. what does corn being down $1.80 have to do with anything??? Be happy-becuz it would be a lot less with free markets and not unneccesary welfare to farmers Please read up on the subject before you make foolish comments
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T boner dickens wrote: <quoted text>
what does corn being down $1.80 have to do with anything???
Be happy-becuz it would be a lot less with free markets and not unneccesary welfare to farmers
Please read up on the subject before you make foolish comments He says with his belly full of cheap food. T-boner, your big city socialism is killing America.
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T boner dickens wrote: <quoted text>
geez-100 yrs, I think we can develop another technology.
dum-dum We already have, it's called corn ethanol. dumber than me.
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Tank Murdoch wrote: Follow the money Calvin and the chipmunks;
The Economist magazine last week reported that Pickens' plan isn't entirely altruistic, however. According to the magazine, Pickens' company Mesa Power has invested $2 billion in a Texas panhandle wind farm. But Pickens, chairman and founder of BP Capital Management, also regularly points out he doesn't need the money.
One of Pickens' companies also owns about 90 of the roughly 500 publicly available natural gas stations with another of his companies, Clean Energy.
<quoted text> Commie/Socialist Alert!!!!! Tank Murdoch opposes the Picken's Plan because he may have some financial gain if implemented. I'll bet Tank would have no problem if we lease the entire Eastern seaboard to Boone Pickens to drill and prosper; but have the guy make a few bucks on clean energy and a practical and partial solution to imported oil and Tank's red flags go up. Why does Tank hate America and our free enterprise system?
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Jay
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T boner dickens wrote: <quoted text>
what does corn being down $1.80 have to do with anything???
Be happy-becuz it would be a lot less with free markets and not unneccesary welfare to farmers
Please read up on the subject before you make foolish comments It puts down your stupid notion that ethanol is the root cause of high food prices. Follow along idiot.
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Calvin wrote: <quoted text>
Commie/Socialist Alert!!!!!
Tank Murdoch opposes the Picken's Plan because he may have some financial gain if implemented.
I'll bet Tank would have no problem if we lease the entire Eastern seaboard to Boone Pickens to drill and prosper; but have the guy make a few bucks on clean energy and a practical and partial solution to imported oil and Tank's red flags go up.
Why does Tank hate America and our free enterprise system? Free enterprise??? Put the pom poms away because your a FOOL my peabrained friend. solar/wind are hardly free enterprise. Ever heard of the vast subsidies for this technology? That is not a free market. Let good ole T-Boone purchase and build up his windpower. Just leave our checkbooks out of it. We should have learned from the ethonal debacle. Please read up on free markets vs. Gov't mandates. Carry on!
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Jay wrote: <quoted text>
It puts down your stupid notion that ethanol is the root cause of high food prices. Follow along idiot. root cause??? maybe. But it is on par with energy prices that are creating high food prices
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Kimball wrote: <quoted text>
root cause??? maybe.
But it is on par with energy prices that are creating high food prices Well? At least you can realize ethanol hasn't been the root cause of high food prices. Also, ethanol does not drive the price of oil up. Ethanol should and does decrease the amount of oil used for gasoline.
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Jay wrote: <quoted text>
Well? At least you can realize ethanol hasn't been the root cause of high food prices.
Also, ethanol does not drive the price of oil up. Ethanol should and does decrease the amount of oil used for gasoline. doing good for a bit...corrections. Ethonal drives up the price of food.(not oil agreed) it takes fuel to make and produce ethanol, so break even at best
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Kimball wrote: <quoted text>
doing good for a bit...corrections.
Ethonal drives up the price of food.(not oil agreed)
it takes fuel to make and produce ethanol, so break even at best agreed ... the tripling of the cost of crude oil and sending our money to middle eastern countries not only has been good for our economy, but has not caused a single product in America to increase in price. All idiots can see that!
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....it's great to see that (so many) people see the ethanol industry for what it is...Just like my Murphy's law calender says:"every American crusade,winds up as a racket".I too,thought ethanol was the greatest thing there was,some years ago.But when you look at the energy it takes to make it,the huge subsidies the industry takes,and,most maddening to me,is the fact that (after you and I have already paid subsidies to these ethanol producers),they (then) do the same thing as the oil companies do.....charge WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR...so,the only difference is,instead of being "robbed" by people over in the Middle East (for oil),now we're being "robbed" by people in our own back yards...THE ETHANOL INDUSTRY!
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steve wrote: ....it's great to see that (so many) people see the ethanol industry for what it is...Just like my Murphy's law calender says:"every American crusade,winds up as a racket".I too,thought ethanol was the greatest thing there was,some years ago.But when you look at the energy it takes to make it,the huge subsidies the industry takes,and,most maddening to me,is the fact that (after you and I have already paid subsidies to these ethanol producers),they (then) do the same thing as the oil companies do.....charge WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR...so,the only difference is,instead of being "robbed" by people over in the Middle East (for oil),now we're being "robbed" by people in our own back yards...THE ETHANOL INDUSTRY! Racket???? OK-I will accept that
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steve wrote: ....it's great to see that (so many) people see the ethanol industry for what it is...Just like my Murphy's law calender says:"every American crusade,winds up as a racket".I too,thought ethanol was the greatest thing there was,some years ago.But when you look at the energy it takes to make it,the huge subsidies the industry takes,and,most maddening to me,is the fact that (after you and I have already paid subsidies to these ethanol producers),they (then) do the same thing as the oil companies do.....charge WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR...so,the only difference is,instead of being "robbed" by people over in the Middle East (for oil),now we're being "robbed" by people in our own back yards...THE ETHANOL INDUSTRY! ... and the electric company too. After we paid billions in subsidies to develop the infrastructure, they charge us WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR!!! The same with the airline industry, the oil ocmpanies, the auto industry ... why it's rampant in this country.!!!
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Edmund Fitz
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last I checked we don't eat electrical wiring, cars or oil??
And how many Billions have those companies paid back in taxes?
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Edmund Fitz wrote: last I checked we don't eat electrical wiring, cars or oil??
And how many Billions have those companies paid back in taxes? Ahh ... new rule: There should be no profit for the producers of things we eat. darn, I thought farmers and ethanol companies paid taxes too.
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Edmund Fitz
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Ahh ... new rule: There should be no profit for the producers of things we eat.
darn, I thought farmers and ethanol companies paid taxes too. Better rule-don't use 20-30% of our food for fuel and subsidize it so it can literally exist. let it make it on its own.
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Edmund Fitz wrote: <quoted text>
Better rule-don't use 20-30% of our food for fuel and subsidize it so it can literally exist.
let it make it on its own. Can you explain the ethanol subsidy to me? The way I see it is that the federal government is paying big oil to use thier distribution infrastructure.
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