NTSB says NWA Airbus jet had 'airspeed anomaly'

A Northwest Airlines Airbus A-330 saw its autopilot function shut off twice as the plane passed through cirrus clouds and some precipitation last month on a flight from Hong Kong to Tokyo.

[Tiny Teddy]

WOW!

[Sam]

I would not be comfortable flying on an AirBus plane!

[Chebama]

"The tubes have a history of malfunctioning in icing conditions, and Airbus had recommended their replacement in the months leading up to the Air France crash."

Translation: We know there's a problem with this component but instead of doing the right thing and issuing an immediate service order and paying for the faulty equipment we're going to try to save a buck yet still CYA by sending this memo. I'd fly a Boeing any day over an AirBus.

[Sean]

This is really scary. A recall on AB330 is needed.

[Da Crusher_RIP]

The FAA should immediately issue an order requiring those tubes to be replaced. Unfortunately this government agency spends more time listening to the concerns of the airlines rather than the safety of its passengers.

[Blurapla5872]

We recently flew on an Airbus from Tokyo to San Francisco. This was before the recent controversy. I wasn't even aware that the flight was going via Airbus. Advantages of this plane are the individual entertainment centers for each person, (great for a long flight). The seats are comfortable. But there are not enough lavatories. In the future I will always try first to get a flight with the old reliable Boeing 747. One less item to worry about.

[swschrad]

hmmm, we might be seeing failures of the fly-by-wire computers. Airbus planes, like all fly by wire systems, don't have any semblance of a manual mode. recent Boeings as well as many recent military jets are all fly by wire. it's moving into cars, with some power-assist electric steering 14 and 15 years old, and full electric steering in some models.

[Chuck]

Blurapla5872 wrote:

We recently flew on an Airbus from Tokyo to San Francisco. This was before the recent controversy. I wasn't even aware that the flight was going via Airbus. Advantages of this plane are the individual entertainment centers for each person,(great for a long flight). The seats are comfortable. But there are not enough lavatories. In the future I will always try first to get a flight with the old reliable Boeing 747. One less item to worry about.

Delayta have been replacing 747-400 routes on non hubs to SCAREBUSes. Ever since they took Delayta take over Northworst, their safety have been slipping as fast as their ability to fill the airplane sits. Its not worth anyones life to fly on un-airworthy Delayta. US Airways have no problem flying their A330-200/300s.
Next time fly on United AIrlines to the Pacific. At least they fly reliable B747-400s and B777-200ERs.

[Chuck]

Sean wrote:

This is really scary. A recall on AB330 is needed.

You mean to say that you are not comfortable flying on Delayta/Northworst airlines. They have aircraft maintenance issues.

[scott]

ya I fly boeing only, because their tails don't FALL OFF .... and yes I fly DELTA because they have an excellent safety record

[not a fine wine]

Key word have. May soon be had. Nwa used to be the same, then came this new breed of CEO. The ones who think they know better. Aviation is not a new business. Thinking out of the box doesn't work. The old system of more eyes the better, improved safety. This new farm-out, don't look, isn't doing that. Richard Anderson... while at NWA said "NW isn't in the business of fixing aircraft. NW's business is moving people and packages." It might not be their business, but it is damn well their responsibility !

[Chuck]

scott wrote:

ya I fly boeing only, because their tails don't FALL OFF .... and yes I fly DELTA because they have an excellent safety record

You will be missed next week for flying on Delayta when one of their crappy and un-airworthy aircraft plunges into the ocean. I will see you on CNN.
Later Brooo!!!

[Meerkat]

Aparantly all of you forgot about the rudder problems on the Boeings. I fly Airbus and I'll take an Airbus over a Boeing any day.

[not a fine wine]

Meerkat wrote:

Aparantly all of you forgot about the rudder problems on the Boeings. I fly Airbus and I'll take an Airbus over a Boeing any day.

Yes the Boeing 737 had a long history of rudder limiter problems. It look as if they did fix this problem. The Airbus is now having problems with the composite vertical. However, this only seems to be on its larger aircraft. It appears the vertical can't withstand the torque of the longer fuselage. Can they make it stronger and still keep it light ? The airframes of airbus count heavily on strength from pressurizing the fuselage. A heavier vertical may require a whole rethinking of the bell-frame and bulkhead spacing. We'll see what they come up with.
The fact that this airplane lost cabin pressure suggests it was nowhere near as strong when it hit the water.

[dirtydog]

Meerkat wrote:

Aparantly all of you forgot about the rudder problems on the Boeings. I fly Airbus and I'll take an Airbus over a Boeing any day.

I suppose you drive a Yugo too!

[Get Real]

dirtydog wrote:

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I suppose you drive a Yugo too!

At least he has a car. Having trouble driving the trailer to the store eh? Ride your bike. We know it's all you have

[dirtydog]

I have a Chevy truck, a BMW motorcycle, Ski Boat and Sea Doo, and I still daily drive my very first car which I bought in 1981.

And it not a rust bucket, like what you probably drive in Minnesota.

We used to call NWA Airbuses Scairbuses and Yugos.

[Da Crusher_RIP]

dirtydog wrote:

I have a Chevy truck, a BMW motorcycle, Ski Boat and Sea Doo, and I still daily drive my very first car which I bought in 1981.
And it not a rust bucket, like what you probably drive in Minnesota.
We used to call NWA Airbuses Scairbuses and Yugos.

Now don't take this wrong, but I would bet you work for Boeing or or a company that supplies parts to Boeing. I have several friends who retired from Boeing in Seattle, plus the secretary's husband in our office in California was at one time the personal bodyguard to the CEO (former MP and FBI agent. Nice guy as long you stayed on his good side). So here is my question. In Houston, are cars equipped to be amphibious with all that water that comes from the various hurricanes that constantly hit the Houston area?
Or am I making a generalization like yours referring to MN cars being rust buckets?
Just asking.

[dirtydog]

Da Crusher_RIP wrote:

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Now don't take this wrong, but I would bet you work for Boeing or or a company that supplies parts to Boeing. I have several friends who retired from Boeing in Seattle, plus the secretary's husband in our office in California was at one time the personal bodyguard to the CEO (former MP and FBI agent. Nice guy as long you stayed on his good side). So here is my question. In Houston, are cars equipped to be amphibious with all that water that comes from the various hurricanes that constantly hit the Houston area?
Or am I making a generalization like yours referring to MN cars being rust buckets?
Just asking.

So your zip is 55121 where the property values are probably plummenting.

I am a former NWA line mech. I live and work in Austin where I am no longer employed in that industry. Austin has clean, clean cars. Are you interested a 64' Tbird.

For some reason in say Houston. Why, I do not know or care, but Boeing and McDonnel - Douglas are heavier/stronger built.

[SunShine]

dirtydog wrote:

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So your zip is 55121 where the property values are probably plummenting.
I am a former NWA line mech. I live and work in Austin where I am no longer employed in that industry. Austin has clean, clean cars. Are you interested a 64' Tbird.
For some reason in say Houston. Why, I do not know or care, but Boeing and McDonnel - Douglas are heavier/stronger built.

That is because when Congress shiite on the Space Program, the best and the brightest, simply walked across the street.