Study: 2012 drought not caused by humans

Apr 12, 2013 Full story: WAPT-TV Jackson 29

Extreme natural events, not man-made climate change, led to last summer's historic drought in the Great Plains, a new federal study said Friday.

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PHD

Montalba, TX

#1 Apr 13, 2013
This is incorrect the "pinheadlitesout" and the spacedoutblues with their hot air they spew daily caused the climate change. Stay tuned folks more hot air heading your way from the dynamic two of useless babble mentioned here.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#2 Apr 13, 2013
Awww the poster above flounders in profanities since it stopped posting "wind mills rule."

It just so happens when BP sold its wind! Wow.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#3 Apr 13, 2013
Droughts have always happened, they aren't man made. Irrigation is man made, emitting water vapor into the atmosphere. Nature has adapted to our greenhouse gas emissions, she likes CO2 especially well. If you love green, emit carbon dioxide. We are moving carbon.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#4 Apr 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Awww the poster above flounders in profanities since it stopped posting "wind mills rule."
It just so happens when BP sold its wind! Wow.
Excellent observation about ph'd. The evidence is all over this forum.

Let's repeat.

Awww the poster above [ph'd] flounders in profanities since it stopped posting "wind mills rule."

It just so happens when BP sold its wind! Wow.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#5 Apr 14, 2013
Find the report here:
http://drought.gov/drought/content/drought-ta...

Climate is beautiful, the left is fickle.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#6 Apr 14, 2013
LOL. b_gone is applauding profanities contrary to its allegations.

Oh by the way, CO2 is aka the thermostat.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#7 Apr 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Climate is beautiful, the left is fickle.
But it's changing while you are ignoring your buddy's aka ph'd profanities above. You posted that science supporters did that. You lied, again.

Oh you are fickle, huh. Once again, you don't know what you post: it's all "paid" fossil fuel propaganda.

Remember CO2 is aka thermostat.

Fossil fuels and their combustion products are toxic, radioactive, and carcinogenic.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#8 Apr 14, 2013
There is no climate thermostat; climate is chaotic. We can't dial it back without the danger of disaster tipping the balance. We won't jeopardize climate without experiments showing the data

There's no dial we can turn, else it would have been tried and tuned. Our CO2 emissions are perfect, they fit without a hitch. Other noxious combustion byproducts might be problems but not carbon dioxide.

Don't panic.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#9 Apr 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There is no climate thermostat; climate is chaotic. We can't dial it back without the danger of disaster tipping the balance. We won't jeopardize climate without experiments showing the data
There's no dial we can turn, else it would have been tried and tuned. Our CO2 emissions are perfect, they fit without a hitch. Other noxious combustion byproducts might be problems but not carbon dioxide.
Don't panic.
This about you also:

Being dumb has benefits, right Brain Gone ??
Chronic exposure to airborne pollutants from gasoline and vehicle emissions contributes to severe asthma attacks and other lung-related health problems, as well as heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancer and premature births. Itís also harmful to anyone who simply enjoys being outside.
Guess, it's fortunate blather here is your hobby.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#10 Apr 14, 2013
CO2 isn't a particulate; carbon dioxide is a gas in the atmosphere, and perfectly benign. If you want to mitigate particulates; let's talk. If you advocate restricting CO2 emissions, shove it.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#11 Apr 14, 2013
The actual report can be found here:

tinyurl.com/cna5dtj

I find it interesting but the 'interpretation' is a bit vague. The report blames 'abnormal events' yet doesn't suggest why these events occurred themselves.

It is like saying that drought was caused by 'dry conditions'.

The origins of the 'once in a hundred years' extreme drought were obviously due to a lot of factors but to say that AGW was not ONE of them is a bit absurd.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#12 Apr 14, 2013
"The point is that just because Hoerling couldnít replicate the drought with his computer simulations doesnít mean climate change had nothing to do with the 2012 Central Great Plains Drought ó let alone the entire 2012 drought and the current 2013 drought."

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/12/1...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#13 Apr 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Awww the poster above flounders in profanities since it stopped posting "wind mills rule."
It just so happens when BP sold its wind! Wow.
But look what it posted today in another thread:

The poster in #3 post vigorously by being spacedout and doesnít argue the fact that its spacedoutblues. Yes folks the spacedoutblues knows that Wind Mills still rule. The spacedoutblues is an "idiot" claiming I use profanities. Then the spacedoutblues with its scientific science fiction useless cut and paste babble enjoys being the commander prevaricator.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

LOL.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#15 May 1, 2013
tinyurl.com/c5p5hvw

"Yes, Climate Change Is Worsening U.S. Drought ó NOAA Report Needlessly Confuses The Issue"
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#16 May 1, 2013
A federal scientist based in Nova Scotia says ocean temperatures off the East Coast of Canada were about two to four degrees above normal in 2012, setting record highs.

"On average, itís probably three to five times the normal variability. So itís quite extreme," said Dave Hebert, a Canadian scientist at the Bedford Institute of Oceanography in Halifax.

His American counterparts at the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration in the U.S. reported sea surface temperatures on the northeastern shelf in 2012 averaged 14 C, the highest temperature recorded in 150 years.

"Itís basically the same here," said Hebert.

"Surface, right to the bottom. All across the Scotian Shelf. Itís in the Bay of Fundy and in the Gulf into the St. Lawrence.Ē

"The amazing thing is, it is such a large extent. It goes all the way down to North Carolina and all the way up to Labrador," Hebert said.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#17 May 2, 2013
CO2 is a gas, it dissolves in water. Coral requires CO2 to live.
Kyle

Wabash, IN

#18 Jun 1, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
CO2 is a gas, it dissolves in water. Coral requires CO2 to live.
Nice variation on the stupid, fallacious denier argument #3.

I again ask, since water is necessary for life, can we immerse you in it? Or since CO2 is such a boon to humanity, can we supply it to you in pure form?

Back in Realityville, increased CO2 concentration in the atmosphere causes increased CO2 absorption into the oceans, which forms the ion referred to as carbonic acid, which reduces the pH. The lowered pH is an anticatalyst for the formation of carbonates such as mollusk shells - AND CORAL SKELETONS.

Tell me, Lyin' Brian, what's it like to be a world-class dishonest a-hole.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#19 Jun 3, 2013
I immerse myself in water regularly. Too much of anything is bad but at atmospheric levels, CO2 is a trace element.

CO2 and water solution depends on temperature. As the oceans warm, more CO2 expands into the air.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#20 Jun 3, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
CO2 is a gas, it dissolves in water. Coral requires CO2 to live.
But you posted on the same page:
Brian_G wrote:
I immerse myself in water regularly. Too much of anything is bad but at atmospheric levels, CO2 is a trace element.
CO2 and water solution depends on temperature. As the oceans warm, more CO2 expands into the air.
Nuts!

No logic, no science, you just lie in a science forum. Why are you here to lie about 42,000 times??
Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#21 Jun 3, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Too much of anything is bad but at atmospheric levels, CO2 is a trace element.


YOU ARE REPEATING DEBUNKED BS! Are you a creationist, by chance; that's exactly what they do. It is RETARDED to dismiss something as a trace when it has - PER YOUR ADMISSION - large effects at those levels. It's DOUBLE RETARDED to do so when it's increased by 43% and on its way to quickly doubling.

Thanks; responses this lame are obvious concessions for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Brian_G wrote:
CO2 and water solution depends on temperature. As the oceans warm, more CO2 expands into the air.
We just recently debunked you making this claim too, but like a creatard, you repeat it w/o acknowledging the rebuttal!

The FACTS:

Water's ability to dissolve gasses decreases with increasing temperature. However, the oceans are NOT saturated with dissolved gasses, therefore your point is RETARDED. Not only that, but we have massive amounts of scientific observation showing that fully 1/3 of the additional CO2 is going into the oceans. A simple accounting of fuels burned, etc. is sufficicent for this, but wwe also have instrumental records of carbonic acid ions and of pH.

I TOLD YOU THIS NOT LO9NG AGO, FUCKWIT!

Now, respond, you effin' weasel. How do maintain your DENIAL and refuse to concede this point? On the grounds that all of the above science is corrupted by the global conspiracy?

Answer, you piece of shite.

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