Climate Change-Conscious Group Forms in Charlottesville

There are 89 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 27, 2013, titled Climate Change-Conscious Group Forms in Charlottesville. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The group is concerned about climate change and how it could affect people in this area.

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huck

Charlottesville, VA

#21 Jan 30, 2013
CvilleMechEngr wrote:
Having meetings is not going to accomplish anything other than weather watching and hand wringing. Exponential populaton increase is unsustainable, and unsustainability brings about correction. It could be food chain disintegration or untreatable infectious disease, but it will happen and must happen. Let's hope that those who remain will make wiser use of our technology.
Meetings bring public awareness along with hand wringing. Like Bob Costas likes to say, it's cultural awareness which helped make smoking uncool. It's the shift in public attitude which will eventually drown out climate change deniers and swing the current gun mania pendulum the other way.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Jan 30, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>weapons don't kill?
that's a fact, jack
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#23 Jan 30, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
A preliminary draft of a report by the U.N’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was leaked to the public earlier this month and now climate change skeptics are arguing it shows evidence of 20 years of global warming overestimation.
Someone involved with the U.N.’s IPCC review process reportedly leaked the draft and made it available for download online. The report shows that each of the four temperature models the U.N. body has published since 1990 has overestimated the rise in temperature on planet Earth. The report wasn’t actually supposed to be released until 2014.
“Temperatures have not risen nearly as much as almost all of the climate models predicted,” Roy Spencer, a climatologist at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, told FoxNews.com .
“Their predictions have largely failed, four times in a row… what that means is that it’s time for them to re-evaluate,” he added.
The IPCC graph shows that the midpoints of the various models predicted that the world would warm by between about 0.5 degrees Fahrenheit and 0.9 degrees Fahrenheit between 1990 and 2012. Actual warming was much less than that: 0.28 F, according the data the IPCC cites.
Would you be happier if the models had been correct and parts of the now inhabited eastern seaboard where submerged? We don't really have a clue/care about what's happening to our home. What if the gradual warming created by humans continues to esclate on the current path for 1000 years because of something set in motion 50 years ago? There are so many what if scenarios that could be presented.....but the fact that they exist should prompt human behavior changes to stop ignoring that something is changing with our weather patterns and taking chances with out only home really is suicidal!
CvilleMechEngr

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Jan 30, 2013
huck wrote:
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Meetings bring public awareness along with hand wringing. Like Bob Costas likes to say, it's cultural awareness which helped make smoking uncool. It's the shift in public attitude which will eventually drown out climate change deniers and swing the current gun mania pendulum the other way.
I don't disagree, but they are three different problems. Smoking was a manageable problem. There will be no similar understanding or agreement on gun control, but guns only kill a few of us at a time.

I am not a climate change denier. Our effect on the planet is clear enough to me. The damage is done and that the earth's population is destined for a huge reduction (i.e. billions). It has to end sometime, right? It could be an asteroid or a volcanic eruption or, in our case, self inflicted.

I also don't suggest that people sit on their hands. I consume less than most of the people who I know, but that's my choice. I don't delude myself into thinking that an LED lamp in the socket is going to save the world, but I like them. You do what you can, and then I think that the expression, "eat, drink, and be merry..." says the rest.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#25 Jan 30, 2013
CvilleMechEngr wrote:
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I don't disagree, but they are three different problems. Smoking was a manageable problem. There will be no similar understanding or agreement on gun control, but guns only kill a few of us at a time.
I am not a climate change denier. Our effect on the planet is clear enough to me. The damage is done and that the earth's population is destined for a huge reduction (i.e. billions). It has to end sometime, right? It could be an asteroid or a volcanic eruption or, in our case, self inflicted.
I also don't suggest that people sit on their hands. I consume less than most of the people who I know, but that's my choice. I don't delude myself into thinking that an LED lamp in the socket is going to save the world, but I like them. You do what you can, and then I think that the expression, "eat, drink, and be merry..." says the rest.
Yeah, I'm really a pessimist when it comes to reigning in our destruction of mother earth.

A building burned down recently in beijing because it was so smoggy nobody saw the smoke coming out of it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57563772/...

They're finally taking some action
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1082015_b...

What is happening to rainforests is just insane.
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#26 Jan 30, 2013
huck wrote:
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Yeah, I'm really a pessimist when it comes to reigning in our destruction of mother earth.
A building burned down recently in beijing because it was so smoggy nobody saw the smoke coming out of it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57563772/...
They're finally taking some action
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1082015_b...
What is happening to rainforests is just insane.
easter island
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#27 Jan 30, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>easter island
no need to venture that far....talk to folks in Norfolk Virginia and here what they have to say about the rising sea levels....
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#28 Jan 30, 2013
Native wrote:
<quoted text>
no need to venture that far....talk to folks in Norfolk Virginia and here what they have to say about the rising sea levels....
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-malthusia...
trouble

Fork Union, VA

#29 Jan 30, 2013
Native wrote:
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no need to venture that far....talk to folks in Norfolk Virginia and here what they have to say about the rising sea levels....
Yey sea levels rising maybe 1/4" every 25 years we are doomed get out of those greene peace humans are evil magazines
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#30 Jan 30, 2013
CvilleMechEngr

Charlottesville, VA

#31 Jan 30, 2013
trouble wrote:
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Yey sea levels rising maybe 1/4" every 25 years we are doomed get out of those greene peace humans are evil magazines
If you think those peace humans in greene are tough, then you should meet the peace humans from madison. I've been hearing a lot about those evil magazines too. How many rounds are you talking about?
trouble

Fork Union, VA

#32 Jan 30, 2013
lol took a sec but i got it
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#33 Jan 30, 2013
Native wrote:
displacement will only deminish the availability of resources.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#34 Jan 30, 2013
It does make one question the wisdom of rebuilding communities devastated by Sandy in the same location.
George66

Palmyra, VA

#35 Jan 31, 2013
Another "NUT-CASE" variation of the DNC base starts up in C-Ville. Why am I not suprised. Maybe you can get some guidance from "Saint Emily". If you fools think there is something you can do about the weather, you better start smoking something other than the weed you must be on. There has always been climate change. The sun is hotter now than it was in the recent past. How are you gonna change that??
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#36 Jan 31, 2013
huck wrote:
It does make one question the wisdom of rebuilding communities devastated by Sandy in the same location.
houses build on sand (shifting) should never be considered permanent.....

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#37 Jan 31, 2013
Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you be happier if the models had been correct and parts of the now inhabited eastern seaboard where submerged? We don't really have a clue/care about what's happening to our home. What if the gradual warming created by humans continues to esclate on the current path for 1000 years because of something set in motion 50 years ago? There are so many what if scenarios that could be presented.....but the fact that they exist should prompt human behavior changes to stop ignoring that something is changing with our weather patterns and taking chances with out only home really is suicidal!
Can you tell me what melted the glaciers that once covered Manhattan?
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#39 Jan 31, 2013
George66 wrote:
Another "NUT-CASE" variation.... sun is hotter
http://www.skepticalscience.com/acrim-pmod-su...
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#40 Jan 31, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Can you tell me what melted the glaciers that once covered Manhattan?
I can emphatically reply to that; HEAT! the question we need to ponder is what was the source of the heat and if it is being exacerbate by human behavior, what can be done to change those behaviors? History tells that those who cannot change and adapt to environmental changes rapidly will probably not make it long term.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#41 Jan 31, 2013
Native wrote:
<quoted text>
I can emphatically reply to that; HEAT! the question we need to ponder is what was the source of the heat and if it is being exacerbate by human behavior, what can be done to change those behaviors? History tells that those who cannot change and adapt to environmental changes rapidly will probably not make it long term.
"History tells that those who cannot change and adapt to environmental changes rapidly will probably not make it long term."

Exactly, humans according to history have been the most adaptable species thus far. Another question; do you know what the Vikings referred to New England as when they first traveled here? New Vineland, due to the extensive warm climate varieties of grapes that were growing. It was much warmer then in that part of the country. Then we had a long period of cooling. Also do you have any idea why the so called scientists changed the talking point of "global warming" to "climate change"? Because their predictions of a warming planet were not coming to fruition. This way they can blame any type of weather on humans. I realize that the topic of climate change is your religion and know one can change your mind but the jury is still out on the effects that humans are having on our environment. The true nature of the argument is about money not climate change.

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