Climate change is happening in front of us

[Realistically]

This thread is still going on? Caveman, you need a life! While you were ranting, breathing ozone from your computer and absorbing reproductive organ-damaging 1GHZ microwave radiation from the computer's processor, I was snowshoeing today at 9000ft in the COLD,FROZEN Rocky Mountains of Colorado. No signs of global or regional warming up there for that matter-
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv301/DLO6...

Go outside and enjoy life!

[ephotonic]

gcaveman1 wrote:

no the real money is in the oil business. Have you seen those profits? and thats profit. after taxes.
so bored with you anti-agw idgits, fussin with you ain't puttin a dime in my pocket.
Besides, Bolivia just joined the global warming conspiracy. They say Lake Titicaca is shrinking because of global warming. But you know how those Bolivians lie.

I meant government money, that is, our tax money, as far as the federal budget over 1/3 is military. It can be argued that a major purpose of our global military empire is to maintain oil supplies.

[gcaveman1]

I don't like cold weather. I like to be warm. I sat under the sky looking at a million stars and galaxies last night. I was breathing smoke from a bowl. My reproductive organs are nunya.

[oneeyedjack]

gcaveman1 wrote:

I don't like cold weather. I like to be warm. I sat under the sky looking at a million stars and galaxies last night. I was breathing smoke from a bowl. My reproductive organs are nunya.

FI, I'm going to Jackson.

[Climatoligist]

Even if humans didn't live of earth, there would be climate change. The poles are switching due to the inner core.

[gcaveman1]

PLAYA GRANDE, Costa Rica — This resort town was long known for Leatherback Sea Turtle National Park, nightly turtle beach tours and even a sea turtle museum.
But haphazard development, in tandem with warmer temperatures and rising seas that many scientists link to global warming, have vastly diminished the Pacific turtle population.

Even before scientists found temperatures creeping upward over the past decade, sea turtles were threatened by beach development, drift net fishing and Costa Ricans’ penchant for eating turtle eggs, considered a delicacy here. But climate change may deal the fatal blow to an animal that has dwelled in the Pacific for 150 million years.
Sea turtles are sensitive to numerous effects of warming. They feed on reefs, which are dying in hotter, more acidic seas. They lay eggs on beaches that are being inundated by rising seas and more violent storm surges.
More uniquely, their gender is determined not by genes but by the egg’s temperature during development. Small rises in beach temperatures can result in all-female populations, obviously problematic for survival.
“The turtles are very good storytellers about the effect of climate change on coastal habitats,” said Carlos Drews, the regional marine species coordinator for the conservation group W.W.F.“The climate is changing so much faster than before, and these animals depend on so much for temperature.”

NYT, 11/13/09

[gcaveman1]

If you don’t like the scientific evidence though, you can just look at what people and governments are doing. Russia is suing to establish the limits of its continental shelf so as to have access to oil lying beneath the Arctic Ocean (UN). Two German freighters recently sailed the Northeast passage for the first time in history, cutting 3500 miles off the usual route, thanks to thinning ice. The United States is planning to open a new Coast Guard base on the northern coast of Alaska to facilitate more patrols in case any of the increasing numbers of fishing vessels and cruise ships get into trouble.(USCG) Royal Dutch Shell has spent $2.1 billion for leases in preparation for exploratory drilling off the northern coast of Alaska.(NY Times) Alaskan coastal villages, once protected by ice shelves, are collapsing into the sea from tides that have never touched the land before.(geology.com ) Canadian botanists and biologists are seeing southern species of plants and animals in the north that have never been seen before.(Nature) Greenland’s citizens are planting potatoes, carrots, and broccoli for the first time and grazing more sheep than they ever have in the past, as well as selling leases to oil companies eager to drill on the warming subcontinent.(The Independent)The Netherlands have begun raising their dikes and buffer zones higher at tremendous cost.(Am. Meteor. Soc. Journal)

All of these groups don’t believe man-made global warming is a hoax.

[whenthecatsaway]

Giant Jelly Fish off the coast of Japan.
The result of climate change, thats all I'm saying.

[oneeyedjack]

gcaveman1 wrote:

If you don’t like the scientific evidence though, you can just look at what people and governments are doing. Russia is suing to establish the limits of its continental shelf so as to have access to oil lying beneath the Arctic Ocean (UN). Two German freighters recently sailed the Northeast passage for the first time in history, cutting 3500 miles off the usual route, thanks to thinning ice. The United States is planning to open a new Coast Guard base on the northern coast of Alaska to facilitate more patrols in case any of the increasing numbers of fishing vessels and cruise ships get into trouble.(USCG) Royal Dutch Shell has spent $2.1 billion for leases in preparation for exploratory drilling off the northern coast of Alaska.(NY Times) Alaskan coastal villages, once protected by ice shelves, are collapsing into the sea from tides that have never touched the land before.(geology.com ) Canadian botanists and biologists are seeing southern species of plants and animals in the north that have never been seen before.(Nature) Greenland’s citizens are planting potatoes, carrots, and broccoli for the first time and grazing more sheep than they ever have in the past, as well as selling leases to oil companies eager to drill on the warming subcontinent.(The Independent)The Netherlands have begun raising their dikes and buffer zones higher at tremendous cost.(Am. Meteor. Soc. Journal)
All of these groups don’t believe man-made global warming is a hoax.

Well, you just need to get a life that's all. It's cold hereand we don't eat sea turtle eggs any way. and besides that it's all a conspiracy so they can control you and get your kids. All people who believe in AGW should go to top of mount Everest that's all. It's all about oil anyway. Or something.

[gcaveman1]

Climatoligist wrote:

Even if humans didn't live of earth, there would be climate change. The poles are switching due to the inner core.

1st sentence: DUUUH!

2nd sentence: WTF!!!

[gcaveman1]

oneeyedjack wrote:

<quoted text>FI, I'm going to Jackson.

Rilly? Jackson, MS? What fer?

[Chicken Little]

The Sky is falling!The Sky is falling!The Sky is falling!The Sky is falling!The Sky is falling!

[oneeyedjack]

gcaveman1 wrote:

<quoted text>
Rilly? Jackson, MS? What fer?

I dunno, cus that's wher Johnny Cash went I guess.

[gcaveman1]

oneeyedjack wrote:

<quoted text>I dunno, cus that's wher Johnny Cash went I guess.

Oh, yeah, you're gonna fool around. He got arrested somewhere in Mississippi, Columbus or Tupelo, for picking flowers!

[gcaveman1]

WASHINGTON (AP)— Can something thousands of years old have a growth spurt?
Apparently bristlecone pines can, and researchers say global warming may be the cause.
Bristlecones living at the upper limits of their range have experienced a growth spurt since about 1950, according to a study in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
According to the width of the growth rings, bristlecone pines in California and Nevada grew faster during the last half of the 20th century than at anytime in the last 3,700 years, the study states.
Trees at the upper limit tree line, where growth had been limited by cooler temperatures, grew faster as readings warmed, the researchers said.
"What it means for the mountains, and the mountain environment, is probably the treeline will be moving up, and there are some indications of that occurring," lead author Matthew W. Salzer of the University of Arizona, said in a statement. "Other animal and plant species will have to shift up to accommodate the changing conditions."
The research was supported by the National Science Foundation.
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On the Net:
PNAS: http://www.pnas.org

[gcaveman1]

Olberman said it best: If your conspiracy theory can be disproved by spending ninety seconds on Wikipedia, it’s a bad conspiracy theory.

Even before the recession, the green-jobs market was growing at a faster pace than overall employment in most states, with California leading the trend, experts say. The growth rate of green jobs nationwide was 9.1% from 1998 to 2007, compared with a 3.7% increase for all jobs during the same period, according to a recent report from the Pew Charitable Trusts.

A UC Berkeley study concluded that "the renewable energy sector generates more jobs per megawatt of power installed, per unit of energy produced and per dollar of investment, than the fossil fuel-based energy sector."

Billions of dollars from clean-tech venture capitalists have poured into California --$3.3 billion in 2008, more than double the amount in 2007, according to Palo Alto research group Next 10.

“Follow the money.”