Global Warming Moves South #BigAussieHeat [Greg Laden's Blog]

Jan 7, 2013 Full story: ScienceBlogs 24

Summer is coming on strong south of the Equator, and in Australia this has meant unprecedented record high temperatures, and in the state of Tasmania, severe brush fires that have destroyed numerous homes, adding to the bad news from fires in the southeastern mainland.

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Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Jan 7, 2013
Wow, the heat moved to Australia. In my area we have had snow in each of the last three years. I have lived here 25 years and this is the first time we have had snow three years in a row.

Australia got hot we got cold, hard to called it 'global warming'.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#2 Jan 7, 2013
WOW: "to called it"

Of course, dirt would not have seen your errors. Speaking of which, you still have no idea about AGW after years of residence in Topix.

Another thing, you did not say your usual, "it happened before."

LOL.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#3 Jan 7, 2013
Look at the red hot map in the article and read:

“Never before in recorded history has Australia experienced 5 consecutive days of national-average maximum temperatures above 39C. Until today. And this heat is expected to continue for another 24-48 hours, extending the new record run to 6 or even 7 days. For context, the previous record of 4 days occurred once only (1973) and 3 days has occurred only twice (1972,2002).”

So there about "it happened before:" NEVER.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Jan 7, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
WOW: "to called it"
Of course, dirt would not have seen your errors. Speaking of which, you still have no idea about AGW after years of residence in Topix.
Another thing, you did not say your usual, "it happened before."
LOL.
The author of the article stated it had happened before.

As for my statement, in 25 years I have not experienced three years in a row where it snowed. Most likely it has, just not in my experience.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Jan 7, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Look at the red hot map in the article and read:
“Never before in recorded history has Australia experienced 5 consecutive days of national-average maximum temperatures above 39C. Until today. And this heat is expected to continue for another 24-48 hours, extending the new record run to 6 or even 7 days. For context, the previous record of 4 days occurred once only (1973) and 3 days has occurred only twice (1972,2002).”
So there about "it happened before:" NEVER.
Four days vs Five days? Is that like it was hotter in 2012 than in 2011 because it was .02*C warmer?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_...

It was warmer and as long as all you say is,'it was warmer', then you're correct. But as soon as you add in that it was .02*C warmer, you're audience will question your veracity, or more correctly, your agenda.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#6 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
The author of the article stated it had happened before.
As for my statement, in 25 years I have not experienced three years in a row where it snowed. Most likely it has, just not in my experience.
What are you smoking?

“Never before in recorded history has Australia experienced 5 consecutive days of national-average maximum temperatures above 39C. Until today. And this heat is expected to continue for another 24-48 hours, extending the new record run to 6 or even 7 days. For context, the previous record of 4 days occurred once only (1973) and 3 days has occurred only twice (1972,2002).”

See "Never before?"

As to your snow, it's your snow like your comments re politics or science. All GO-p!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#7 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Four days vs Five days? Is that like it was hotter in 2012 than in 2011 because it was .02*C warmer?
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_...
It was warmer and as long as all you say is,'it was warmer', then you're correct. But as soon as you add in that it was .02*C warmer, you're audience will question your veracity, or more correctly, your agenda.
Again, what are you smoking?

WOW: "you're audience"
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#8 Jan 7, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Again, what are you smoking?
WOW: "you're audience"
"You're audience" That's all you've got? Get over it.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#9 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
"You're audience" That's all you've got? Get over it.
What are you smoking?

You and your spam friends should read what you post. You make no sense whatso ever.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#10 Jan 7, 2013
'fun farts' wrote:
In my area we have had snow in each of the last three years. I have lived here 25 years and this is the first time we have had snow three years in a row.
'fun farts' wrote:
As for my statement, in 25 years I have not experienced three years in a row where it snowed.
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litesong wrote:
We've had this talk before in 2009, I believe.
AGW enhanced warm fronts push hard into the North Pole region, often pushing Arctic cold fronts to the south.
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My reports gathered together from AGW & China forums, show the continuing cold Chinese weather is due to warm fronts that have strongly raised temperatures in the North Pole region, flushing Arctic cold fronts south to China.
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litesong wrote:
From an article:
The national meteorological administration said China is seeing dropping temperatures partly because of south-moving polar cold fronts, caused by melting polar ice from global warming.
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litesong wrote:
& so tis true. In mid-January 2009, warm fronts, powered into the Arctic by excess GHGs atmospheric energy, & strongly warmed Arctic sea ices so much that for ELEVEN DAYS, THOSE ICES REDUCED IN THEIR SQUARE KILOMETER COVERAGE. Simultaneously, those warm fronts drove cold Arctic air south to Canada & the U.S. strongly. The state of Maine, USA, set its all time coldest recorded temperature of -46degC(-50degF). The Arctic cold was driven further south setting cold records in Mexico & deeper south into Centra America.
My reports in past topix AGW threads of that period, confirm those events.
Yes, presently, while China is desperately cold, the North Pole & the entire Arctic down to the 80th parallel, days before, was 7 to 10degC warmer than normal, & again, Arctic sea ice freezing has not only come to a stop, but has lost sea ice area at times.
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litesong continues:
Again, my present reports in topix AGW threads, confirm these NOT coincidental, but interlinked events.
As mentioned above, China continues to set record cold temperatures, resulting from continuing strong warm fronts thrusting into the North Pole region. AVERAGE arctic temperatures above the 80th parallel have pinnacled twice to 11 degC warmer than normal, as the warm fronts have shoved Arctic cold onto China.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#11 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
It was warmer and as long as all you say is,'it was warmer', then you're correct. But as soon as you add in that it was .02*C warmer, you're audience will question your veracity, or more correctly, your agenda.
Part of the continuing trend of warmer La Nina years.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Jan-OctG...

Anybody looking at the full picture will question *your* agenda in *not* looking at the full picture.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#12 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#13 Jan 7, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
What do you think you see? Looks to me like la ninas are less frequent when the PDO is negative than when it was positive. The anticipated El Nino didn't really happen, that's to be expected in the negative phase of the PDO.

What does that have to do with the fact that 2012 was .02*C warmer than the same period in 2011? Remember La Ninas and El Ninos are part of our climate system. They just didn't start with global warming. Most likely El Nino could have had something to do with the very high temps of 1792. Blaming temps on ENSO is like blaming daylight on the sun. No shit sherlock.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#14 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Wow, the heat moved to Australia. In my area we have had snow in each of the last three years. I have lived here 25 years and this is the first time we have had snow three years in a row.
Australia got hot we got cold, hard to called it 'global warming'.
No, your New Mexico environs are warming right along with everywhere else.
http://tinyurl.com/az335cx
You do know that increased snowfall in many areas is part of the forecast as the world warms, don't you? Snow does not equal cold: the last time you had real winter cold was in 1975, and even that was considerably warmer than much earlier record cold, such as 1910. But more precipitation does lead to more snow.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Jan 7, 2013
Northie wrote:
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No, your New Mexico environs are warming right along with everywhere else.
http://tinyurl.com/az335cx
You do know that increased snowfall in many areas is part of the forecast as the world warms, don't you? Snow does not equal cold: the last time you had real winter cold was in 1975, and even that was considerably warmer than much earlier record cold, such as 1910. But more precipitation does lead to more snow.
Actually, the graph shows New Mexico is not getting warmer, less cold in recent years, but not warmer. The last time it got really cold here was February 2010. Beat by February 1962, but it was cold.

Snow is precipitation. It's precipitation when it's cold.
unbelievable

United States

#16 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the graph shows New Mexico is not getting warmer, less cold in recent years, but not warmer. The last time it got really cold here was February 2010. Beat by February 1962, but it was cold.
Snow is precipitation. It's precipitation when it's cold.
funny things have been happening to those very same graphs lately 'fun facts', in fact it's unbelievable. Glaring inconsistencies found between State of the Climate (SOTC) reports sent to the press and public and the “official” climate database record for the United States. Using NCDC’s own data, July 2012 can no longer be claimed to be the “hottest month on record”. our own trusted authority on weather and climate information, the federal agency charged with knowing the temperature of the USA to a high degree of certainty, releases national average temperature and ranking, presented to the public and to the press as factual information and in fact the numbers change later, without correcting those earlier claims .
unbelievable.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/06/does-no...
Northie

Spokane, WA

#17 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the graph shows New Mexico is not getting warmer, less cold in recent years, but not warmer. The last time it got really cold here was February 2010. Beat by February 1962, but it was cold.
Snow is precipitation. It's precipitation when it's cold.
Perhaps you missed the chart's fat, red, rising line labeled "trend". New Mexico is indeed growing warmer. Take it from NOAA.

As for warm snow, I just shoveled a large pile of it. It's considerably warmer than the usual for early January here.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#18 Jan 7, 2013
Unbelievable that kalie is stilla 'thony fan. Oh yeah for the gossip that she misses.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#19 Jan 7, 2013
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you missed the chart's fat, red, rising line labeled "trend". New Mexico is indeed growing warmer. Take it from NOAA.
As for warm snow, I just shoveled a large pile of it. It's considerably warmer than the usual for early January here.
Here's what I found for my area.

http://nidis1.ncdc.noaa.gov/GHCNViewer/
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#20 Jan 7, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Snow is precipitation. It's precipitation when it's cold.
The Arctic & Antarctic are listed as desert areas:
http://www.google.com/search...

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