Sea ice reduction at tipping point

Sep 22, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Sydney Morning Herald

AS ARCTIC sea ice hits a record low, scientific focus is turning to climate ''tipping points'' - a threshold that, once crossed, cannot be reversed and will create fundamental changes to other areas.

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Actually, having graphed the minimum ice extent over the last 9 years, it seems likely to me that the areal reduction in future years will slow somewhat and the 'remnant ice' will decline slowly, leading to a totally ice free arctic by 2030. The curve of the volume figures is a bit misleading in that the area now covered by ice is well protected by land on most sides and thus will prove a bit harder to dislodge.

But it matters little. The areas for navigation and exloitation are open now and the future will just make the 'open season' a bit longer each year.

The real tipping point will probably be in Greenland ice sheet decline, which is sensitive to water and air temperatures in the summer arctic.
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If there is a tipping point, it will tip to cold.
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If there is a tipping point, it will tip to cold.
toxic topix AGW deniers have predicted that for a decade or two. I'm still waiting for the temperatures of the early 20th century to come back next year.
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A stunning performance(actually a non-performance) the last two days, showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & landforms. Two days ago, Arctic sea ice expansion was only the size of West Virginia! YESTERDAY, THE ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA EXPANSION WAS ONLY AS TINY AS CONNECTICUT!
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice:

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Barely ABOVE 4 million km2, Arctic sea ice extent is still BELOW any recorded level in any previous year, at 4,166,563 km2 (October 2, 2012), fractionally gaining ~25,000 km2(a bit more than West Virginia area) of sea ice the previous day, despite the sun, unseen, from the North Pole for 10+ days, & temperatures above the 80th parallel, a bit above -13 degC, fractionally above normal. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters. Only along the Greenland east coast is sea ice extending greatly south.
It is stunning how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only West Virginia this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice Volume is disappearing, day to day, & year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent, even in the time of Arctic sea ice increase.

Also, Arctic downwellings in regions of previous sea ice, now have had as much as many months of solar energy absorbing waters, in which extra energy is conducted to depths of continental shelves or into deep Arctic Ocean waters.
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Arctic sea ice extent is BELOW any recorded level in any previous year, at 4,173,594 km2 (October 3, 2012), fractionally gaining ~7,000 km2(a bit more than tiny Connecticut area) of sea ice the previous day, the sun, unseen, from North Pole for ~2 weeks, & temps above the 80th parallel, at -13 degC. Temps on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are dropping well below freezing, yet Arctic Ocean & seas still remain remarkably free of sea ice. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters. Only along the Greenland east coast is sea ice extending greatly south.
It is stunning how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only Connecticut area, this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice Volume is disappearing, day to day, & year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent, even in the time of Arctic sea ice increase.
Yeah, despite the feeble denial efforts of 'steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling', a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, to discount this thread, this thread is alive.
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Winter is nearing the tipping point. Cold will soon arrive to the North.
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PHD wrote:
Winter is nearing the tipping point. Cold will soon arrive to the North.
However, as quoted in my above post:
Arctic downwellings in regions of previous sea ice, now have had as much as many months of solar energy absorbing waters, in which extra energy is conducted to depths of continental shelves or into deep Arctic Ocean waters.
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It is stunning how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only Connecticut area, this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring.
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However, as quoted in my above post:
Arctic downwellings in regions of previous sea ice, now have had as much as many months of solar energy absorbing waters, in which extra energy is conducted to depths of continental shelves or into deep Arctic Ocean waters.
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It is stunning how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only Connecticut area, this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring.
Why Thank you.
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The Arctic sea ice minimum extent this year was almost 300,000 square miles(twice the area of California) smaller than the previous minimum set in September 2007, which itself was an incredible drop.
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A stunning performance(actually a non-performance) the last four days, showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & landforms. Four days ago, Arctic sea ice expansion was only the size of West Virginia! Three days ago, THE ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA EXPANSION WAS ONLY AS TINY AS DELAWARE!
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice:
Details below:
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is BELOW any recorded level in any previous year, at 4,173,594 km2 (October 3, 2012), fractionally gaining ~7,000 km2(a bit more than tiny Delaware area) of sea ice the previous day, the sun, unseen, from North Pole for ~2 weeks, & temps above the 80th parallel, at -13 degC. Temps on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are dropping well below freezing, yet Arctic Ocean & seas still remain remarkably free of sea ice. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
It is incredible how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only Delaware area, this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, day to day, & year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent, even in the time of Arctic sea ice increase.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is about the same or below any minimum Arctic sea ice of any recorded year, & has been for 5-6 weeks, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,256,875 km2 (October 5, 2012). Over the last two days, only the area represented by S. Carolina has become sea ice, despite the sun, unseen, from North Pole for ~2 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -10degC.

Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northwest Passage, Northeast passage, waters north of Alaska & waters even north of Russian Islands, Franz Joseph Land, & Svalbard are ice free. Year long sea ices have been in place north of Canada & Greenland. The farthest southerly reaching sea ices are along the east coast of Greenland. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months are resisting their conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.

This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered, have transported extra solar energy to continental shelf & Arctic Ocean & sea depths.

Yeah, despite the feeble denial efforts of 'steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling', a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, to discount this thread, this thread is alive.
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The Arctic sea ice minimum extent this year was almost 300,000 square miles(twice the area of California) smaller than the previous minimum set in September 2007, which itself was an incredible drop.
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litesong wrote:
A stunning performance(actually a non-performance) the last four days, showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & landforms. Five days ago, Arctic sea ice expansion was only the size of West Virginia! Three days ago, THE ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA EXPANSION WAS ONLY AS TINY AS DELAWARE!
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice:
Details below:
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is about the same or below any minimum Arctic sea ice of any recorded year, & has been for 5-6 weeks, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,256,875 km2 (October 5, 2012). Over the last two days, only the area represented by S. Carolina has become sea ice, despite the sun, unseen, from North Pole for ~2 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -10degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
It is incredible how the southern Arctic waters resist the ever increasing darkness & cold atmospheric temperatures trying to convert water to sea ice(yes, only Delaware area, this past day).
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, day to day, & year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent, even in the time of Arctic sea ice increase.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is a bit above the lowest of any previous year's minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,377,344 km2 (October 6, 2012). Finally, with almost one week into October, with temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC, normal for the last two days & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -10degC, southern Arctic sea ice has increased by the size of New Mexico.
Again, much of that sea ice increase is along the Greenland east coast. Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northwest Passage, Northeast passage, waters north of Alaska & waters even north of Russian Islands, Franz Joseph Land, & Svalbard are ice free. Year long sea ices have been in place north of Canada & Greenland. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months are resisting their conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND from indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered, have transported extra solar energy to continental shelf & Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
Yeah, despite the feeble denial efforts of 'steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling', a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, to discount this thread, this thread is alive.
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Extraordinarily low ice levels indicate the summer sea ice has passed a point of no return.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/tipping_point_ar...

“We’ve gone through a tipping point, and of all the things a tipping point applies to, sea ice is the most appropriate, because the idea is when it goes below a certain thickness it doesn’t go back under present conditions,” said Zwally.“People can get hung up on the specifics and lose track of the big picture, which is that it’s getting worse and it’s going to get [even] worse.”
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Extraordinarily low ice levels indicate the summer sea ice has passed a point of no return.
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/tipping_point_ar...
“We’ve gone through a tipping point, and of all the things a tipping point applies to, sea ice is the most appropriate, because the idea is when it goes below a certain thickness it doesn’t go back under present conditions,” said Zwally.“People can get hung up on the specifics and lose track of the big picture, which is that it’s getting worse and it’s going to get [even] worse.”
An excellent & detailed article, not only of CO2 delay of solar energy on Earth, but the powerful secondary effects that now warm the Arctic.

One secondary AGW warming effect not mentioned, is the clear Arctic water warming(specially in southern Arctic waters), normally sea ice covered, that is strongly delaying the sea ice return. Lots of times, toxic topix AGW deniers crow when Arctic sea ice does finally return, because they only look at Arctic sea ice extents & areas. However, the delay of Arctic sea ice extents & areas due to solar warming, is even more so, delaying & not fully gaining, Arctic sea ice thickness.

Yes, while toxic topix AGW deniers keep up their distractions, by pointing out winter sea ice extents, they purposefully, do NOT pay attention to the thicknesses, which have been more steadily decreasing Arctic sea ice VOLUMES.

Not predicting, but an easy future can be envisioned, when very very thin Arctic sea ices would still have 1 or 2 million km2 of area. A strong directional storm or just a prevailing warm front, could push the sea ice against any surrounding landform, crumple most of the ice, & the ice AREA would mostly, disappear. It happened this year with the Arctic August storm that made 700,000 km2 of sea ice disappear.
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The October Wiser Now interview on Earthchanges - from The Extinction Protocol


2012 and Earthchanges News events

"Geological evidence is mounting that a shift in planetary processes is beginning to occur on Earth. We are likely in the preliminary stages of an event which will hasten the end of the period known as the Holocene, and will shift the planet into a new geologic era of change. The time of confusion marked by extreme events, or transitional period of birth pangs, as many call it may be the identifying marker for the annunciation of Christ’s 2nd coming..."

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20...

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It appears we may very well be heading into The Great Tribulation and GOD'S response to "wickedness" that has filled its cup - see the curse of Zechariah 5 against "thieves" and "those that swear falsely by My Name" (Do Our elected and leaders globally come to mind?) http://niv.scripturetext.com/zechariah/5.htm , then compare with Revelation 18 http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/18.ht...

The 'Events' that will signal the start of The Great Tribulation - The Trumpets - starting at Revelation 8:7 http://kingjbible.com/revelation/8-2.htm , will parallel GOD'S Final Messages to mankind - Revelation 14 & 18.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/14.ht...
http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/18.ht...

"GOD does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear Him and do what is right."

http://niv.scripturetext.com/acts/10.htm


I believe we may have already started experiencing The Preamble that preceeds the 7 Trumpets revealed in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ which GOD gave him to show..." chapter 8 vs 5: "voices" (some versions say "noises" or "sounds"), and thunderings, and lightnings". The next 'Event' mentioned to take place is the first of the Big Ones - and it appears the earth is being readied for just that....The Trumpets are meant to Wake us UP! Get our attention directed toward true reality and making our final choices before the offer of His Salvation ends --

In a conflict, one must choose sides, http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/12.ht... .

Many, many people will lose their lives in these Events....http://bible.cc/2_co rinthians/6-2.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20...

GOD also informed us that The Great Tribulation/Time of His Wrath against "Wickedness" will be a time of Great Deception:

http://niv.scripturetext.com/2_thessalonians/... Note verses 9-12.

Also see: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebea...

IMPORTANT: Note GOD'S description of His people:

http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/12-1.... vs 17
http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/14-6.... vs 12

Interesting times indeed.
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litesong wrote:
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An excellent & detailed article, not only of CO2 delay of solar energy on Earth, but the powerful secondary effects that now warm the Arctic.
One secondary AGW warming effect not mentioned, is the clear Arctic water warming(specially in southern Arctic waters), normally sea ice covered, that is strongly delaying the sea ice return. Lots of times, toxic topix AGW deniers crow when Arctic sea ice does finally return, because they only look at Arctic sea ice extents & areas. However, the delay of Arctic sea ice extents & areas due to solar warming, is even more so, delaying & not fully gaining, Arctic sea ice thickness.
Yes, while toxic topix AGW deniers keep up their distractions, by pointing out winter sea ice extents, they purposefully, do NOT pay attention to the thicknesses, which have been more steadily decreasing Arctic sea ice VOLUMES.
Not predicting, but an easy future can be envisioned, when very very thin Arctic sea ices would still have 1 or 2 million km2 of area. A strong directional storm or just a prevailing warm front, could push the sea ice against any surrounding landform, crumple most of the ice, & the ice AREA would mostly, disappear. It happened this year with the Arctic August storm that made 700,000 km2 of sea ice disappear.
np.

Not mentioned? Actually:

Chief among them is that decades of warming have so extensively melted and thinned Arctic sea ice that rapidly expanding areas of dark, open water are absorbing ever-greater amounts of the sun’s radiation, further warming the region in a vicious cycle.

So it is there. Further:

Second, swiftly warming air and ocean temperatures in the Arctic have, for now at least, altered atmospheric activity, with two consequences: Warmer air is being pulled into the Arctic, and increased storms and cyclones in summer are not only driving ice out of the Arctic basin, but also breaking up the ice pack and further exposing more dark water.

And:

And finally there is the inescapable reality that steadily rising levels of carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere by human activity are continuing to warm the Arctic and the rest of the globe, further hastening the loss of Arctic Ocean ice. Several experts say that the only thing that could slow this disappearance — and then only for a few years — would be a major volcanic eruption that reduces the amount of the sun’s energy striking the earth.

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<quoted text>np.
Not mentioned? Actually:
Chief among them is that decades of warming have so extensively melted and thinned Arctic sea ice that rapidly expanding areas of dark, open water are absorbing ever-greater amounts of the sun’s radiation, further warming the region in a vicious cycle.
So it is there.
Whoops! Missed an entire paragraph, I did!
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Here's that link again:

http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/6-2.htm
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Whoops! Missed an entire paragraph, I did!
np.

Actually, I enjoyed repeating the context for summer storms that ff aka fossil fuel keeps bringing up without a clue.

How's Mt St Helen these days?

http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/
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How's Mt St Helen these days?
Mt. St. Helens has been nostalgically watching all the smoke from the eastern Washington forest fires. She's getting to see some smoke from a few western Washington fires, also. Maybe, she'll get the idea to add to the smokey air with her own fire & brimstone again.
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The Arctic sea ice minimum extent this year was almost 300,000 square miles(twice the area of California) smaller than the previous minimum set in September 2007, which itself was an incredible drop.
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A stunning performance(actually a non-performance) showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic ice pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth variably tilted towards the sun.
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of any other year recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,377,800 km2 (October 6, 2012). Only the area represented by Pennsylvania in the past day has become sea ice, despite the sun, unseen, from North Pole for ~2 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC for the last three days, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -12degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.

This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the lowest of any previous year's minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,477,031 km2 (October 7, 2012). With one week into October, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC, normal for the last three days & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -12degC, southern Arctic sea ice has increased by smaller than the size of Kentucky in the past day.
Much of that sea ice increase is along the Greenland east coast, altho Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard, again in the circular pattern mentioned above. Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northwest Passage, Northeast passage, waters north of Alaska & waters north of mentioned islands are ice free.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND from indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf & Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
Yeah, despite the feeble denial efforts of 'steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling', a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, to discount this thread, this thread is alive.
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litesong wrote:
the Arctic ice pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth variably tilted towards the sun.

litesong(Sept.22, 2012) wrote:
Arctic sea ice area has increased ~300,000 square kilometers of ice in the last 4-5 days. Temperatures above the 80 deg parallel have dropped ~ 5 degC, altho still above normal for the time of year. Arctic sea ices increase quickly. However, the heatwave on border of Alaska-Canada, with temperatures 68-72 degF, still keep the Northwest Passage clear.
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On Sept. 22,2012, tho air temperatures weren't as low as now, Arctic northern sea ices were readily increasing AND filling in the raggy taggy edges(& even internally trapped clear waters) of the Arctic ice pack. As the sea ices progressed southward, the ices met more & more unusually solar heated Arctic waters that had been solar heated for months & still were solar heating, because they normally have been universally iced in decades past.

As the raggy taggy sea ices tried to ice further south, they semi-circularly developed, showing that Arctic solar waters were progressively solar heated in the southerly direction!

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...

It is very remarkable, even stunning, the edges of the raggy taggy Arctic sea ices conforming to the southerly directionally warmed Arctic waters! The Arctic sea ices act just like a progressive contour map of warming Arctic waters, showing a secondary effect of AGW predicted science & excess Earth-captured solar energy.
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Tipping point? TIPPING POINT? Its the whole Arctic Ocean.

The Arctic sea ice minimum extent this year was almost 300,000 square miles(twice the area of California) smaller than previous minimum in Sept 2007, which itself was an incredible drop.
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A stunning performance(a non-performance) shows Arctic sea ice, after this year's minimum extent(& greatest square kilometer area of clear waters), NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all southern Arctic waters refuse to ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic ice pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth, variably tilted towards the sun.
Details below:
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of any other year recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,477,031 km2 (October 7, 2012). Only the small size area represented by Kentucky has become sea ice, despite the sun, unseen, from the North Pole for 2+ weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 14 degC for the last three days, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -12degC.

Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.

This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice minimum extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest two years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,574,688 km2 (October 8, 2012). However, present extent is dated almost a month later, than the date that the 3rd place year established its mark. Temperatures above the 80th parallel have slipped to (-15 degC), a bit less than normal, temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean most often freezing with temperatures as low as -17degC, but southern Arctic sea ice has increased by smaller than the size of Indiana.
Much of that sea ice increase is along the Greenland east coast, altho Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard, again in the semi-circular pattern mentioned above. Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northwest Passage, Northeast passage, & waters north of mentioned islands are nearly ice free. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE KILOMETERS(IF NOT MORE), of waters north of Alaska & Siberia are clear.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND from indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf & Arctic Ocean & sea depths.

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