Ruidoso Mayor candidates answer questions

Feb 25, 2014 Full story: Ruidoso News 19

The two candiates for mayor of Ruidoso were asked to respond to several questions to help voters better understand their positions on issues facing the village before the March 4 municipal election.

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Since: May 10

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#1 Feb 26, 2014
I don't know what Gloria Sayers is getting at here. Sounds like some double-talking misguided theory about what's fair:

"The new general obligation bonds, if approved by voters, would allow a more aggressive approach to replacing failing infrastructure. We need all property owners contributing based on the value of the their homes and property. The 40 percent of permanent residences can no longer shoulder this unfairly distributed expense, "
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Feb 26, 2014
No one was asked to talk about the BRT . It`s the Elephant in the room.
A little confused

Alto, NM

#3 Feb 26, 2014
Where's that "none of the above" button?
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#4 Feb 26, 2014
OMG...I sure hope the GoBond fails. But if there is to be a bond (or four bonds), everybody should pay the same share of the cost. Ms. Sayers is, apparently, a Socialist. Here's a hypothetical, an analogy to what Ms. Sayers is proposing: Should I have to pay $3.50 for a taco at Taco Bell because I live in a big house, when somebody else who rents a small apartment pays only 99 cents for his taco? Of course not. That would be absurd. That would be discriminatory. What would Abraham Lincoln say?

http:/www.theredant.com/red-an t-blog/2011/10/18/issue-70-inc essant-taxation.html

Or how about this:

http://godfatherpolitics.com/2144/the-new-ant...
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#5 Feb 26, 2014
Correction: Lincoln misattributed the quote. Doesn't matter. Read this:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperi...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#6 Feb 26, 2014
So, we have a divisive candidate with socialist tendencies vs. a brown-nosing scalawag running for mayor. Lovely.
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#7 Feb 26, 2014
Yvonne wrote:
OMG...I sure hope the GoBond fails. But if there is to be a bond (or four bonds), everybody should pay the same share of the cost. Ms. Sayers is, apparently, a Socialist. Here's a hypothetical, an analogy to what Ms. Sayers is proposing: Should I have to pay $3.50 for a taco at Taco Bell because I live in a big house, when somebody else who rents a small apartment pays only 99 cents for his taco? Of course not. That would be absurd. That would be discriminatory. What would Abraham Lincoln say?
http:/www.theredant.com/red-an t-blog/2011/10/18/issue-70-inc essant-taxation.html
Or how about this:
http://godfatherpolitics.com/2144/the-new-ant...
Wasn`t it King Solomon who built up the grain supplies in case of a famine. Someone should tell me why they don`t charge space rent for the horses at the track for the wealthy horsemen . but the poor guy buying gas to go to work everyday has to pay a tribute to Hubbard?
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#8 Feb 26, 2014
Water Please wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn`t it King Solomon who built up the grain supplies in case of a famine. Someone should tell me why they don`t charge space rent for the horses at the track for the wealthy horsemen . but the poor guy buying gas to go to work everyday has to pay a tribute to Hubbard?
Yep, rolling the working class is an age-old practice. I don't know anything about the track business, but I have wondered why parking isn't charged. All the other tracks I have been to charge parking. With the money derived from parking, Ruidoso Downs could serve the community well by running a trolley/transport shuttle and gain some cred in return. Pardon the pun, but you're flogging a dead horse on the Hubbard tax. It's over. Put a fork in it: it's done. Though I don't like the way the man got his parity with the Indians, I understand the business thinking. And, every city has to pay some sort of homage to the big fish businesses they want to lure to their town. So a nominal portion of sales tax goes to the billionaire. Yeah, it is about as gauche as it gets, but hey: it's his legacy. This thinking by Sayers is just plain wacky. If she thinks that big houses should pay more than small houses, why the heck does she give a break to big businesses...namely, the Lodge?!! She rationalizes that monied business gets a break, but monied homeowners pay more. This is pure discrimination.
Mind made up

Ruidoso, NM

#9 Feb 26, 2014
Sayers did a poor job of convincing me to vote for her at the candidate forum. She had a hard time answering the questions and kept going back to her canned responses, rather than directly answering the question.
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#10 Feb 27, 2014
Yvonne wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, rolling the working class is an age-old practice. I don't know anything about the track business, but I have wondered why parking isn't charged. All the other tracks I have been to charge parking. With the money derived from parking, Ruidoso Downs could serve the community well by running a trolley/transport shuttle and gain some cred in return. Pardon the pun, but you're flogging a dead horse on the Hubbard tax. It's over. Put a fork in it: it's done. Though I don't like the way the man got his parity with the Indians, I understand the business thinking. And, every city has to pay some sort of homage to the big fish businesses they want to lure to their town. So a nominal portion of sales tax goes to the billionaire. Yeah, it is about as gauche as it gets, but hey: it's his legacy. This thinking by Sayers is just plain wacky. If she thinks that big houses should pay more than small houses, why the heck does she give a break to big businesses...namely, the Lodge?!! She rationalizes that monied business gets a break, but monied homeowners pay more. This is pure discrimination.
I don`t agree with you that the BRT is a done deal . It is not a permanent tax that I know of. I was reading an article in the paper about the spike of race horse deaths ,and in an interview with Shawn Hubbard he said that "In that the horseman get to stay free at Ruidoso Downs the horsemen can be evicted on short notice if any one is drugging the horses." While I think it is great that Hubbard can kick these people out .Up in to the time I read the paper I didn`t know the barns were free. Back when we had horses we had to pay rent. I still feel that I should not be asked to support such an immoral business that accepts a certain amount of death as part of the sport. I mean if this were dog fights or cock fights it would be stopped Why is the spike in horse deaths not being dealt with faster? The candidates should be talking about if they want to support the BRT on the next go round.
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#11 Feb 27, 2014
This has nothing to do with Ruidoso except for giving subsidies to business . I am making a prediction now that Reno Nevada will get the new Telsa Battery factory . Reno is nearby Freemont and has access to cheap hydro electric power. The plan to lower ac rates for industry was scrapped in NM(thankfully) these other States are just being used to strong arm Nevada in to giving up stuff. The States need to just say no and quit selling out their own citizens for empty promises .If I am wrong I will stop making predictions.
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#12 Feb 27, 2014
The voters in Ruidoso and you need to stay focused on how they will vote. Whatever the issue is, it is the VOTER who will decide. The voters voted for the BRT, remember? You can't blame a council person. Sure, the elected officials should reflect the values of the community. I agree there has been a conspicuous absence of answers from the candidates to the ever-present question, "Whose side are you on, Hubbard's?" Accept it: the values of Ruidoso are not Bible-thumping Christian values. The voters voted to continue to base their economy on what the Bible would identify as a "sin trade." Again, I do not have a problem with the track. It was there before Hubbard came to town and I would bet it will be there long after he is gone. Call me a heathen, if you will. I, like you, once owned a stable full of Arabian show horses. Through my experience I learned the sad fact that when money and horses mix, the horses always lose. This thread is about a very important vote for Ruidoso mayor and a new councilman. And the big issue for them to manage, should he or she be elected, is infrastructure. Please, stay focused on that right now.
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#13 Feb 27, 2014
Yes but when I was a Young Man all these horses were not dying at the track at the rate they are today and the FBI was not raiding the place. It is a related issue .I am focused .
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#14 Feb 27, 2014
Okay. The FBI is handling the track, so it is definitely NOT a mayoral candidate issue. A great big question that was neither asked nor answered was, If you are elected mayor will you hire a new city manager? This is vital to know insofar as we know that the current manager has shuffled money out of the Water Department and the
Water Department may be getting an influx of millions more tax dollars should the GoBond pass.

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#15 Feb 27, 2014
For me, this election is all about the GoBond. It's a bitter pill to swallow, especially the fact that they'd even attempt to raise our property taxes for funding a water department that has just been granted a hefty cost increase, mostly to residential consumers. Why couldn't the PTB wait and see how far the increase takes them in what they claim they need to do to improve the infrastructure of our water system before once again trying to squeeze blood from a turnip. There seems to be a consensus that funding for the water department has been recklessly diverted elsewhere and I'd sure like to know more about that, especially so before giving these people anymore money to spend.
Yvonne

Anaheim, CA

#18 Feb 27, 2014
Gus V Inst wrote:
For me, this election is all about the GoBond. It's a bitter pill to swallow, especially the fact that they'd even attempt to raise our property taxes for funding a water department that has just been granted a hefty cost increase, mostly to residential consumers. Why couldn't the PTB wait and see how far the increase takes them in what they claim they need to do to improve the infrastructure of our water system before once again trying to squeeze blood from a turnip. There seems to be a consensus that funding for the water department has been recklessly diverted elsewhere and I'd sure like to know more about that, especially so before giving these people anymore money to spend.
I couldn't agree more. A word to the wise is sufficient...unless the vote proves a paucity of wise voters.
Agreed

United States

#19 Mar 3, 2014
Yvonne wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, rolling the working class is an age-old practice. I don't know anything about the track business, but I have wondered why parking isn't charged. All the other tracks I have been to charge parking. With the money derived from parking, Ruidoso Downs could serve the community well by running a trolley/transport shuttle and gain some cred in return. Pardon the pun, but you're flogging a dead horse on the Hubbard tax. It's over. Put a fork in it: it's done. Though I don't like the way the man got his parity with the Indians, I understand the business thinking. And, every city has to pay some sort of homage to the big fish businesses they want to lure to their town. So a nominal portion of sales tax goes to the billionaire. Yeah, it is about as gauche as it gets, but hey: it's his legacy. This thinking by Sayers is just plain wacky. If she thinks that big houses should pay more than small houses, why the heck does she give a break to big businesses...namely, the Lodge?!! She rationalizes that monied business gets a break, but monied homeowners pay more. This is pure discrimination.
If you consider that municipal water is socialism then you get some fresh perspective. For instance if it was private enterprise there is a really good chance that charges would be more reflective of costs. For instance neighborhoods that are more remote would pay more. The same goes of all the higher altitude locations if they require lift pumping. And last, but not least, houses in places where density per pipe mile is much lower the cost per connection would be higher. So what really happens with this is a misguided attempt to fairly apportion the cost based on value. Of course if they tried to charge the big houses on the long roads at the remote corners of the village water anything near the cost of delivery you would be griping even more about that. Is it really right that the guy that lives a short distance downhill of the supply on a dense pipe pays the same for his water as the guy that lives uphill and a lot of pipe miles away from the source?

The only certain outcome of the election will be its insignificance. The snowball has too much momentum now. Too many people are busy looking for a way out to care what caretaker government comes in. Have a look at the Lubbock Craigslist real estate section. Its like a Ruidoso too good to be true ad paper. Before long the prices will drop low enough to perhaps attract some overseas refugees this time.
starving realtor

Ruidoso, NM

#20 Mar 4, 2014
Agreed wrote:
<quoted text>
If you consider that municipal water is socialism then you get some fresh perspective. For instance if it was private enterprise there is a really good chance that charges would be more reflective of costs. For instance neighborhoods that are more remote would pay more. The same goes of all the higher altitude locations if they require lift pumping. And last, but not least, houses in places where density per pipe mile is much lower the cost per connection would be higher. So what really happens with this is a misguided attempt to fairly apportion the cost based on value. Of course if they tried to charge the big houses on the long roads at the remote corners of the village water anything near the cost of delivery you would be griping even more about that. Is it really right that the guy that lives a short distance downhill of the supply on a dense pipe pays the same for his water as the guy that lives uphill and a lot of pipe miles away from the source?
The only certain outcome of the election will be its insignificance. The snowball has too much momentum now. Too many people are busy looking for a way out to care what caretaker government comes in. Have a look at the Lubbock Craigslist real estate section. Its like a Ruidoso too good to be true ad paper. Before long the prices will drop low enough to perhaps attract some overseas refugees this time.
I have never had so many listings, but few real buyers despite what the RN says. Not just because of the water. I think the rental market will now boom and home sales will become flat at best unless you want to give your property away.
And some of the tree thinnings, such as the large lots on Hull Road at Paradise are creating some very ugly property. They went way overboard. Too heavily thinned in my opinion.
It is not just the water problem or lack of snow. The bigger issues affecting our mass evacuation seem to be the corruption, mean people and poor schools.
Water Please

Rio Rancho, NM

#21 Mar 4, 2014
Many of the problems with housing are due to changes in home loan laws . For example if you own a rental house and you still have a loan on it the renters must qualify and meet minimum standards themselves. This was done to stop the problems created with speculators . I don`t really see how the town can have high rents and low wages at the same time unless everyone lies on their applications. Also when you get a home loan, owner occupied gets better rates than vacation homes. Those changes are nation wide not just Ruidoso. I see houses all over Rio Rancho that are for sale . The signs say 500.00 moves you in . I never see that in Ruidoso . What is that program? Does anyone know That might help Ruidoso if it`s a good program.

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