Story of the Year: It's Global Warming, Stupid

Dec 31, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Common Dreams

My favorite headline of 2012 was " It's Global Warming, Stupid ," which appeared on the cover of Bloomberg Businessweek on Nov.

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“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#200 Jan 26, 2013
Global warming hoax exposed

The second faction might be called the Soft Power Faction. Their philosophy might be summed up that they think its “possible to kill more flies with honey than with vinegar.” Their preferred path to global population control and lowering of the growth rates in China and elsewhere is through promoting the fraud of global warming and imminent climate catastrophe. Al Gore is linked to this faction. So is British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. They see globalist institutions, especially the United Nations, as the best vehicle to advance their agenda of global austerity.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#201 Jan 26, 2013
The Environmental Protection Agency is using its power to advance the objective of the environmental movement to deny Americans access to the energy that sustains the nation’s economy and is using the greatest hoax ever perpetrated, global warming—now called “climate change”—to achieve that goal.

“This standard isn’t the once-and-for-all solution to our environmental challenge,” said Lisa Jackson, the EPA administrator,“but it is an important commonsense step toward tackling the ongoing and very real threat of climate change and protecting the future for generations to come. It will enhance the lives of our children and our children’s children.”

YOUNG People have been INDOCTRINATED!!!

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#202 Jan 26, 2013
Yep when I was a younger man the big thing was
"The Next Ice Age is upon us"

did it happen? answer NO

http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-warming-o...

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#203 Jan 26, 2013

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#204 Jan 26, 2013
Brilliant scientists like Dr. Stephen Schneider penned articles of the dire consequences of Global Cooling. In 1972 he claimed, "A cooling trend has set in, perhaps akin to the Little Ice Age".(Remember this guy; he'll show up again). 1975, New York Times, "Major cooling may be ahead".

Well, that's enough of that. Time to switch gears or maybe do another 180.

Global Warming Experts "Reverse" Descision - Now Say 'Sun' Major Cause

http://www.earthchangesmedia.com/publish/arti...

The continental U.S. has warmed by about 1.3°F over the past 100 years

WOW!!! Simply Incredible!!!!!
Brad

Manchester, CT

#205 Jan 26, 2013
Vance1 wrote:
Brilliant scientists like Dr. Stephen Schneider penned articles of the dire consequences of Global Cooling. In 1972 he claimed, "A cooling trend has set in, perhaps akin to the Little Ice Age".(Remember this guy; he'll show up again). 1975, New York Times, "Major cooling may be ahead".
Well, that's enough of that. Time to switch gears or maybe do another 180.
Global Warming Experts "Reverse" Descision - Now Say 'Sun' Major Cause
http://www.earthchangesmedia.com/publish/arti...
The continental U.S. has warmed by about 1.3°F over the past 100 years
WOW!!! Simply Incredible!!!!!
Looks like I'll be shoveling a few more inches of global warming in the 2 degree temps tomorrow night.OY

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#206 Jan 26, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like I'll be shoveling a few more inches of global warming in the 2 degree temps tomorrow night.OY
Oh yes you will...Big HOT front coming in

Phoenix AZ in 1923 temps were Low was 44° high was 67°
and lets see today Jan 26 2013 46° 69°

Yep wow they are right its higher......LOL in 90 yrs it did change. 2* on the average.

Oh this shyt is just too funny
Drink the hivE

New York, NY

#207 Jan 26, 2013
L'enfer Est Plein De Bonnes Volontés Et Désirs...

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1611/26335/9h/dra...
litesong

Everett, WA

#208 Jan 26, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
The Arctic has been warming about twice as fast as the rest of the Northern Hemisphere. Studies are showing its changing the course of the jet stream, which steers weather systems from west to east, with “wavier” patterns – meaning steeper troughs and higher ridges that allow for cold fronts to come down from the north.
In our Pacific Northwest, the jet stream sprays north & south along the U.S. west coast & into Canada, altho our Northwest & south British Columbia get the 'water hose' pointed at it most of the time. Along with changes in our winters, our greatest changing effect, is the jet stream often driven far north of us, for extended periods during the summer, causing our summer to be increasingly dry .

In 2009, the jet stream was driven to the north for 5.5 months, allowing little rain to fall in that period. Seattle set its all time greatest recorded temperature of 103degF, along the Salish Sea(Puget Sound) whose waters are most often in the mid-50 degF range. Inland away from the Sea, between the 47-48th arcdeg parallel, temperatures escalated to 105, 108 & one spot hit 111 degF.

In 2012, the jet stream moved north for 3+months. Soggy western Washington had no rain for 90+ days & crops were near total failure. Generally green leafed corn went completely brown, something I never saw in my life. Eastern Washington was dry for ~4 months. Trees dried out quickly & fires began within 3 weeks of rain stoppage. Some of our most extensive fires & one of our worst extended fire season occurred.
litesong

Everett, WA

#209 Jan 26, 2013
advance to the rear wrote:
Yep when I was a younger man the big thing was
"The Next Ice Age is upon us"
Only Time & Newsweek(non-science rags) had a few articles on global cooling in the 70's. Even back then, 44 Science Papers were published in Science Journals about global warming. Only 7 papers were published about global cooling .

So..... as a younger man, you weren't enrolled at University, going to the college Earth science, mathematics, astronomy, physics, engineering or chemistry libraries to read any of those 44 Science Papers?
Course not. I need not have asked.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#210 Jan 26, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant scientists like Dr. Stephen Schneider penned articles of the dire consequences of Global Cooling. In 1972 he claimed, "A cooling trend has set in, perhaps akin to the Little Ice Age".(Remember this guy; he'll show up again). 1975, New York Times, "Major cooling may be ahead".
Well, that's enough of that. Time to switch gears or maybe do another 180.
Global Warming Experts "Reverse" Descision - Now Say 'Sun' Major Cause
http://www.earthchangesmedia.com/publish/arti ...
Let me help you with the timeline.
In 1971, Rasool and Schneider wrote a scientific paper that was focused on entitled Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate" (Science 173, 138-141).

--The paper never actually predicted an ice age. Instead, it projected a possible scenario - if aerosol levels increased 6 to 8 times then sustained those levels for several years, it could trigger an ice age.

--Carbon dioxide was assumed to play a minor role.

--Shortly after, Schneider realized he had overestimated the cooling effect of aerosols, and underestimated the warming effect of CO2 by a factor of about three. Also he found most aerosols had natural causes, which would not be affected by human activities (i.e., smog).

In 1974, he published a retraction of his earlier paper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Schneide...
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****IN THE 1980s and afterwards

During the 1970s, James Hansen was still focused solely on studying Venus. It wasn't until May 1978 that NASA's Pioneer Venus Orbiter and Multiprobe reached Venus; when he and others wrote a 1979 Science article on the composition of the clouds and atmosphere on Venus.

- In 1981, Hansen became head of NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. It was during this time, NASA first collected weather station data going back to 1880.

--in 1988, NASA released using this data, a global average temperature graph showing the four warmest years on record were all in the 1980s. The two warmest years were 1981 and 1987.

And by the 1990s, we have had satellite data, ocean buoys, and proxy data analysis was starting (ice cores, bore rings, tree rings).

==Satellites have also proven glaciers are melting, despite still some rumblings by the hard right this is wrong. Studies on Milankovitch cycles show we should be in a cooling mode,

==There have been an avalanche of scientific studies on the climate since then on every angle - solar radiation, clouds, galactic cosmic rays, natural cycles like PDOs - to see if these explained our proven warming.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#211 Jan 26, 2013
Vance1 wrote:
Brilliant scientists like Dr. Stephen Schneider penned articles of the dire consequences of Global Cooling. In 1972 he claimed, "A cooling trend has set in, perhaps akin to the Little Ice Age".(Remember this guy; he'll show up again). 1975, New York Times, "Major cooling may be ahead".
Well, that's enough of that. Time to switch gears or maybe do another 180.
Let me help you with the timeline:

In 1971, Rasool and Schneider wrote a scientific paper that was focused on entitled Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate" (Science 173, 138-141).

--The paper never actually predicted an ice age. Instead, it projected a possible scenario - if aerosol levels increased 6 to 8 times then sustained those levels for several years, it could trigger an ice age.

--Carbon dioxide was assumed to play a minor role.

--Shortly after, Schneider realized he had overestimated the cooling effect of aerosols, and underestimated the warming effect of CO2 by a factor of about three. Also he found most aerosols had natural causes, which would not be affected by human activities (i.e., smog).

In 1974, he published a retraction of his earlier paper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Schneide...

Climate modeling was just starting. There was no consensus on global warming back then.

-- In fact in 1975, the US National Academy of Sciences/National Research Council Report, when asked to comment on climate projections concluded

"...we do not have a good quantitative understanding of our climate machine and what determines its course. Without the fundamental understanding, it does not seem possible to predict climate..."

Compare that today where the NAS and virtually ALL the science organizations have put out statements strongly warning of the dangers of manmade global warming.

Here is the US National Academy of Science's current position: "there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring... It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities... The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action." This is in a joint statement with the Academies of Science from Brazil, France, Canada, China, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United Kingdom.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#212 Jan 26, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me help you with the timeline:
In 1971, Rasool and Schneider wrote a scientific paper that was focused on entitled Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate" (Science 173, 138-141).
--The paper never actually predicted an ice age. Instead, it projected a possible scenario - if aerosol levels increased 6 to 8 times then sustained those levels for several years, it could trigger an ice age.
--Carbon dioxide was assumed to play a minor role.
--Shortly after, Schneider realized he had overestimated the cooling effect of aerosols, and underestimated the warming effect of CO2 by a factor of about three. Also he found most aerosols had natural causes, which would not be affected by human activities (i.e., smog).
In 1974, he published a retraction of his earlier paper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Schneide...
Climate modeling was just starting. There was no consensus on global warming back then.
-- In fact in 1975, the US National Academy of Sciences/National Research Council Report, when asked to comment on climate projections concluded
"...we do not have a good quantitative understanding of our climate machine and what determines its course. Without the fundamental understanding, it does not seem possible to predict climate..."
Compare that today where the NAS and virtually ALL the science organizations have put out statements strongly warning of the dangers of manmade global warming.
Here is the US National Academy of Science's current position: "there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring... It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities... The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action." This is in a joint statement with the Academies of Science from Brazil, France, Canada, China, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United Kingdom.
man you have received The Liberal Hard Course of Indoctrination
What else do you believe in Unicorns?
litesong

Everett, WA

#213 Jan 26, 2013
Vance1 wrote:
What else do you believe in Unicorns?
You believe something worse. You believe 're-pubic-lick-uns who have 10-16 years less training in mathematics & science(or no science & mathematics at all), know more science & mathematics than the scientists.

The fairy tales of the distant past will not hurt anything. But the fairy tales of historical & present re-public-lick-un thinking have & will tear society apart.
PHD

Overton, TX

#214 Jan 27, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is NASA "stupid"?
There out of business for the most part and soon to be replaced. I see you got walloped again and again. Have a good walloped day today.
PHD

Overton, TX

#215 Jan 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Only Time & Newsweek(non-science rags) had a few articles on global cooling in the 70's. Even back then, 44 Science Papers were published in Science Journals about global warming. Only 7 papers were published about global cooling .
So..... as a younger man, you weren't enrolled at University, going to the college Earth science, mathematics, astronomy, physics, engineering or chemistry libraries to read any of those 44 Science Papers?
Course not. I need not have asked.
And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
bearpath

Lee, MA

#216 Jan 27, 2013
You stupid liberals can take your global warming & shove it where the sun don't shine.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#217 Jan 27, 2013
Vance1 wrote:
<quoted text>
man you have received The Liberal Hard Course of Indoctrination
What else do you believe in Unicorns?
I give you facts.

You start spouting fantasy. Of course you are the one who onely sees... unicorns, pal.

Disagree? Show me precisely where my facts are wrong instead of mindless right wing rants--

ha ha, or is that the BEST you can do????
PHD

Overton, TX

#219 Jan 28, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
I give you facts.
You start spouting fantasy. Of course you are the one who onely sees... unicorns, pal.
Disagree? Show me precisely where my facts are wrong instead of mindless right wing rants--
ha ha, or is that the BEST you can do????
You can't give anyone facts. You deal in scientific science fiction. Show your entire peer reviewed published work.
Bet you can't!!
falltime

Lee, MA

#220 Jan 28, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
I give you facts.
You start spouting fantasy. Of course you are the one who onely sees... unicorns, pal.
Disagree? Show me precisely where my facts are wrong instead of mindless right wing rants--
ha ha, or is that the BEST you can do????
Global warming is a joke & your to stupid to realize it you dumb liberal.

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