Going for the record: Can anything st...

Going for the record: Can anything stop 2012 from being warmest ever?

There are 23 comments on the Christian Science Monitor story from Sep 20, 2012, titled Going for the record: Can anything stop 2012 from being warmest ever?. In it, Christian Science Monitor reports that:

As the US heads into the final three months of the year, 2012 is likely to end up as the warmest year on record for the lower 48 states, according to an analysis from the federal government's National Climatic Data Center .

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Since: Sep 12

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#1 Sep 21, 2012
Going for the record......

Well if the current data doesn't show global warming they'll just change the data until it does.
litesong

Everett, WA

#2 Sep 21, 2012
Ithink2yearsold wrote:
Well/ if the current data doesn't show global warming they'll just change the data until it does.
Tho toxic topix AGW deniers always complain about data, they have no science background, expertise or ability to 'improve' data to show the ice age that toxic topix AGW deniers said started some years ago.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#3 Sep 22, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Tho toxic topix AGW deniers always complain about data, they have no science background, expertise or ability to 'improve' data to show the ice age that toxic topix AGW deniers said started some years ago.
"scientific skepticims"
Scientific skeptics attempt to evaluate claims based on verifiability and falsifiability and discourage accepting claims on faith or anecdotal evidence.

"philosphical skepticsm"
is a philosophic position holding that the possibility of knowledge is limited either because of the limitations of the mind or because of the inaccessibility of its object.

"denialist definition of skepticism"
One who instinctively or habitually doubts, questions, or disagrees with assertions or generally accepted conclusions. i.e. denial of anything anyone takes as 'fact'.

Denialists are related to 'philosphical skepticism' which is based on denial of our ability to know anything anyway. It rejects the use of science as a pathway to knowledge and so the denialists avoid science in their discussion.

Of course, all they really prove is that they have a knee jerk aversion to any knowledge.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#4 Sep 22, 2012
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
"scientific skepticims[sic]"
NoFactAllHype wrote:
"philosphical[sic] skepticsm[sic]"
NoFactAllHype wrote:
'philosphical[sic] skepticism'
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
I was very good at spelling.
"Was" being the operative word, eh, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
PHD

Houston, TX

#5 Sep 23, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text><quoted text>"Was" being the operative word, eh, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
Unfortunately for all your not a was, your still the commander of useless babble tainted with hate covered with spam cut and paste. It dirtling
Fun Facts

United States

#6 Sep 23, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
"scientific skepticims"
Scientific skeptics attempt to evaluate claims based on verifiability and falsifiability and discourage accepting claims on faith or anecdotal evidence.
"philosphical skepticsm"
is a philosophic position holding that the possibility of knowledge is limited either because of the limitations of the mind or because of the inaccessibility of its object.
"denialist definition of skepticism"
One who instinctively or habitually doubts, questions, or disagrees with assertions or generally accepted conclusions. i.e. denial of anything anyone takes as 'fact'.
Denialists are related to 'philosphical skepticism' which is based on denial of our ability to know anything anyway. It rejects the use of science as a pathway to knowledge and so the denialists avoid science in their discussion.
Of course, all they really prove is that they have a knee jerk aversion to any knowledge.
Where did you get that?

Philosophy is the basis for all inquiry. It is the basis of math and it's spinoff, science.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#7 Sep 23, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
Where did you get that?
Philosophy is the basis for all inquiry. It is the basis of math and it's spinoff, science.
Bad news:
Stephen Hawking tells Google 'philosophy is dead'- Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › Technology › Google
PHD

Houston, TX

#8 Sep 23, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Bad news:
See you should have used protection.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#9 Sep 23, 2012
Ithinktoo wrote:
Going for the record......
Well if the current data doesn't show global warming they'll just change the data until it does.
Are you trying to cover up the Criminal investigation at Chevron refinery?

Jack Broadbent, executive director of the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, says Chevron was "routing gas through that pipe to the flare that they were not monitoring."
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#10 Sep 25, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Bad news:
Stephen Hawking tells Google 'philosophy is dead'- Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › Technology › Google
What does Hawking know?

All scientists think they are at the pinnacle of their field and most likely they are, until the next level is reached.

Philosophy never assumes it knows it all, but is the endeavor to discover the hows and whys of what we know and defines the process by which we continue to discover.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#11 Sep 25, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
What does Hawking know?
Theoretical Physics. Aren't you paying attention or do you not know who he is??
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
All scientists think they are at the pinnacle of their field and most likely they are, until the next level is reached.
They may be at the pinnacle (peak) for the present without worrying about the fact that the future will know more. All it takes is to be at the peak TODAY.
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Philosophy never assumes it knows it all, but is the endeavor to discover the hows and whys of what we know and defines the process by which we continue to discover.
In your view with is not shared by MOST philosophers. And they are presumably the ones with the last word on philosophy, not you OR Mr. Hawkins who has never claimed to be a philosopher that I know of.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#12 Sep 25, 2012
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
the future will know more.
Another classic LessFact.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Mr. Hawkins[sic] who has never claimed to be a philosopher that I know of.
This isn't Treasure Island, the man's name is Hawking, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
PHD

Houston, TX

#13 Sep 25, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
<quoted text>Another classic LessFact.
<quoted text>This isn't Treasure Island, the man's name is Hawking, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
Again you have nothing to offer but cut and paste. Your babble another ASSumption of your self.
SpaceBlues

United States

#14 Sep 25, 2012
Actually.. At Google's Zeitgeist Conference in 2011, Hawking said that "philosophy is dead."

He believes philosophers "have not kept up with modern developments in science" and that scientists "have become the bearers of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge." He said that philosophical problems can be answered by science, particularly new scientific theories which "lead us to a new and very different picture of the universe and our place in it".[57]
(Wikipedia)

P.S. It's easy to agree with Hawking.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#15 Sep 26, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Theoretical Physics. Aren't you paying attention or do you not know who he is??
<quoted text>
They may be at the pinnacle (peak) for the present without worrying about the fact that the future will know more. All it takes is to be at the peak TODAY.
<quoted text>
In your view with is not shared by MOST philosophers. And they are presumably the ones with the last word on philosophy, not you OR Mr. Hawkins who has never claimed to be a philosopher that I know of.
OK..what do most philosphers think?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#16 Sep 26, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
OK..what do most philosphers think?
You must be joking, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty doesn't know what he thinks, let alone philosophers.
PHD

Houston, TX

#17 Sep 26, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You must be joking, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty doesn't know what he thinks, let alone philosophers.
There you go again making another ASSumption of your self. Good job keep it up otherwise you wouldn't have any self worth. WOW didn’t you thunk?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#18 Sep 27, 2012
LessFactMoreHype claims that:
Forty is spelt with a U
Etymology is not a serious subject
"Deforestations is a consequence of AGW"
Epistemologists compile dictionaries
Epystemologists compile dictionaries
"Samuel Johnson was an American"
Ice calving is restricted by size
Spelt is only an ancient grain
"The equator doesn't have "season"
"There isn't a 'right or wrong' way of spelling"
Cars can be charged with road collisions
Vikings didn't know how to live in a warmer Greenland
"How much heat you are transferring at one time has NO relationship to the temperature of any objects"
Alberta is a country
"New Moore island is in the MOUTH of the several rivers"
Insects and plants don't qualify as species
Enercon install offshore wind generators
"Scientific laws are not science"
Climate and weather are not 'linked'
"Predictions are for astrologers"
"Ethanol is a very workable and effective solution"
"AGW is just the warming of the global average surface temperature due to GHGs"
"AGW is the global average"
"The science says that human emissions are responsible for MOST of AGW, which has SOME unknown but significant part of climate change"
"The IPCC report of 2001 and 2007 clearly show that GHGs are by far the largest contributor but not the exclusive contributor to AGW"
America only has two political parties
Climate and weather are not 'linked'
'nondenier' is a real word
"Fruiting plants are especially chosen by bees for, "polination"
"We acted on CFCs in the 70s"
CO2 is not vital for life on planet Earth
CO2 causes, "thermal pollution"
CO2 is a 'thermal pollutant'
"CO2 levels are rising faster than the temperature can react"
AGW is comparable to the Holocaust
"Please show this 'ararmist club' and membership list"
"And theory is the endpoint of science"
"The 'unproven' stuff is 'hypothesis'"
"The fact that all the scientific authorities confirm AGW as theory means that it IS science fact as defined"
"There are no 'laws of science'"
"Scientific laws are NOT science"
"the science isn't going to change"
"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change"
"And nowhere is there 'skepticism' of the science"
"Experiment is NOT science"
"Experiment can only give you data. it cannot PROVE anything"
PHD

Houston, TX

#19 Sep 27, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
LessFactMoreHype claims that:
Forty is spelt with a U
Etymology is not a serious subject
"Deforestations is a consequence of AGW"
Epistemologists compile dictionaries
Epystemologists compile dictionaries
"Samuel Johnson was an American"
Ice calving is restricted by size
Spelt is only an ancient grain
"The equator doesn't have "season"
"There isn't a 'right or wrong' way of spelling"
Cars can be charged with road collisions
Vikings didn't know how to live in a warmer Greenland
"How much heat you are transferring at one time has NO relationship to the temperature of any objects"
Alberta is a country
"New Moore island is in the MOUTH of the several rivers"
Insects and plants don't qualify as species
Enercon install offshore wind generators
"Scientific laws are not science"
Climate and weather are not 'linked'
"Predictions are for astrologers"
"Ethanol is a very workable and effective solution"
"AGW is just the warming of the global average surface temperature due to GHGs"
"AGW is the global average"
"The science says that human emissions are responsible for MOST of AGW, which has SOME unknown but significant part of climate change"
"The IPCC report of 2001 and 2007 clearly show that GHGs are by far the largest contributor but not the exclusive contributor to AGW"
America only has two political parties
Climate and weather are not 'linked'
'nondenier' is a real word
"Fruiting plants are especially chosen by bees for, "polination"
"We acted on CFCs in the 70s"
CO2 is not vital for life on planet Earth
CO2 causes, "thermal pollution"
CO2 is a 'thermal pollutant'
"CO2 levels are rising faster than the temperature can react"
AGW is comparable to the Holocaust
"Please show this 'ararmist club' and membership list"
"And theory is the endpoint of science"
"The 'unproven' stuff is 'hypothesis'"
"The fact that all the scientific authorities confirm AGW as theory means that it IS science fact as defined"
"There are no 'laws of science'"
"Scientific laws are NOT science"
"the science isn't going to change"
"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change"
"And nowhere is there 'skepticism' of the science"
"Experiment is NOT science"
"Experiment can only give you data. it cannot PROVE anything"
Now if we can get you to attend your mental help class and take your meds maybe just maybe you can be saved.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#20 Sep 27, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You must be joking, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty doesn't know what he thinks, let alone philosophers.
Yeah, I know, but it would have been fun.

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