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Russia approves use of military in Ukraine

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“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#1 Mar 1, 2014
"Russian troops took over Crimea as the parliament in Moscow gave President Vladimir Putin a green light Saturday to use the military to protect Russian interests in Ukraine."

But they don't specify what those 'Russian interests' are until you're almost half way through the article. I guess that's something.

""Russia and the West find themselves on the brink of a confrontation far worse than in 2008 over Georgia," Dmitri Trenin, the director of Carnegie Moscow Center, said in a commentary posted on its website."

What does that mean? The 'war' with Georgia lasted 3 days.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#2 Mar 1, 2014
What it means is that "IF" Russia invades Ukraine they may get a bloody nose because the Ukrainian military is not the same as Georgia. They have the second largest army in Europe next to Russia. Can they win an all out war against Russia? Not a chance BUT in localized battles they are more than able to defend themselves. They use the same equipment and use the same training. It would be better for ALL in this case if a break was taken to let cooler heads prevail. OR, many innocent people will have to pay the price for posturing.
Ukrainka tractor farm

Finland

#3 Mar 1, 2014
SWG wrote:
What it means is that "IF" Russia invades Ukraine they may get a bloody nose because the Ukrainian military is not the same as Georgia. They have the second largest army in Europe next to Russia. Can they win an all out war against Russia? Not a chance BUT in localized battles they are more than able to defend themselves. They use the same equipment and use the same training. It would be better for ALL in this case if a break was taken to let cooler heads prevail. OR, many innocent people will have to pay the price for posturing.
Ukrainka dive is bankrupt. Where on earth is your equally bankrupt America going to cut that 35 billion from. And would you honestly want you tax dollars to be left to peasants like Yatsenyuk, Turchynov and Klitschko. Vitali is already a millionaire. Why do you think he wants to be in ukrainka politics so badly. He has been silent now after hearing that Yanuko already took the state to the cleaners.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#4 Mar 1, 2014
When has Ukraine NOT been bankrupt?!
Yuri

San Francisco, CA

#5 Mar 1, 2014
The Russians will now beat Ukrainian azzz!!!
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#6 Mar 1, 2014
Most of the financial centers are in the east.Why should we be alarmed over Russian posturing.Eastern Ukraine has always been under the influence of Russia.Personally I feel that the Ukraine is to Russia as Mexico is to the US.Obama should not go around drawing "red lines"that he has no intention of of sticking to.He creates the image of the US as an impotent,raging fool issuing threats it can't back up.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#7 Mar 1, 2014
What you have is a"Russia" seeking to reassert itself as a superpower.I personally disagree with Obama's position on this.Crimea is Russia's backyard.If you look at the history of the region,Russia and Ukraine are closely related.If Ukraine swings toward the west,I would not lose sleep over it.The population is mostly Ukrainian and Russian.Ukraine has not faced the reality of democracy and freemarket economics.A committee can't make all the decisions a free market economy requires.The question is whether Ukraine wants to find it's place in the modern world and make it's own decisions or be a serf of Russia.
-sunshine wrote:
"Russian troops took over Crimea as the parliament in. Moscow gave President Vladimir Putin a green light Saturday to use the military to protect Russian interests in Ukraine."
But they don't specify what those 'Russian interests' are until you're almost half way through the article. I guess that's something.
""Russia and the West find themselves on the brink of a confrontation far worse than in 2008 over Georgia," Dmitri Trenin, the director of Carnegie Moscow Center, said in a commentary posted on its website."
What does that mean? The 'war' with Georgia lasted 3 days.
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#8 Mar 1, 2014
Yuri wrote:
The Russians will now beat Ukrainian azzz!!!
UKRANIANS ARE RUSSIANS FOR GODS SAKES! THAT WILL BE A CIVIL WAR!
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#9 Mar 1, 2014
Just a thought wrote:
What you have is a"Russia" seeking to reassert itself as a superpower.I personally disagree with Obama's position on this.Crimea is Russia's backyard.If you look at the history of the region,Russia and Ukraine are closely related.If Ukraine swings toward the west,I would not lose sleep over it.The population is mostly Ukrainian and Russian.Ukraine has not faced the reality of democracy and freemarket economics.A committee can't make all the decisions a free market economy requires.The question is whether Ukraine wants to find it's place in the modern world and make it's own decisions or be a serf of Russia.<quoted text>
CORRECT!IT CAN DO BOTH.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#10 Mar 1, 2014
Just a thought wrote:
Most of the financial centers are in the east.Why should we be alarmed over Russian posturing.Eastern Ukraine has always been under the influence of Russia.Personally I feel that the Ukraine is to Russia as Mexico is to the US.Obama should not go around drawing "red lines"that he has no intention of of sticking to.He creates the image of the US as an impotent,raging fool issuing threats it can't back up.
Obama has just warned Putin that Russia's world standing is at stake!

I wonder how Putin will react to this threat?

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#11 Mar 1, 2014
Just a thought wrote:
What you have is a"Russia" seeking to reassert itself as a superpower.I personally disagree with Obama's position on this.Crimea is Russia's backyard.If you look at the history of the region,Russia and Ukraine are closely related.If Ukraine swings toward the west,I would not lose sleep over it.The population is mostly Ukrainian and Russian.Ukraine has not faced the reality of democracy and freemarket economics.A committee can't make all the decisions a free market economy requires.The question is whether Ukraine wants to find it's place in the modern world and make it's own decisions or be a serf of Russia.<quoted text>
I don't see Russia trying to assert itself as a superpower at all. I see Russia asserting their right to protect their naval base.

I have seen west Ukrainians making threats and calling for the overthrow of Yanukovych since 2010. I see the people in Crimea frightened and asking for help. I think Russia has been pretty reasonable so far. I think Yanukovych was far too weak in his response.

A serf of Russia vs a serf of the EU... good question!
F--K the Nazis

United States

#12 Mar 1, 2014
Well, America has already done all it can to make sure Russia has no standing, so what the hell does it have to lose?

No more bargaining chips on the table, Obama. You're tough out of luck.

The really sad thing (and I feel sorry for Obama, the Constitutional lawyer) is that if this coup were ever to go before an unbiased international court for a ruling on legitimacy, they would be laughed out of court. I've been listening to some of the nonsensical little nitpicking arguments put forth to give it an air of legitimacy and it's really comical.
F--K the Nazis

United States

#13 Mar 1, 2014
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>Obama has just warned Putin that Russia's world standing is at stake!
I wonder how Putin will react to this threat?
Well, America has already done all it can to make sure Russia has no world standing, so what the hell does it have to lose?

No more bargaining chips on the table, Obama. You're tough out of luck.

The really sad thing (and I feel sorry for Obama, the Constitutional lawyer) is that if this coup were ever to go before an unbiased international court for a ruling on legitimacy, they would be laughed out of court. I've been listening to some of the nonsensical little nitpicking arguments put forth to give it an air of legitimacy and it's really comical.
F--K the Nazis

United States

#14 Mar 1, 2014
Every lawyer in this country is sitting around the TV these days, scratching their heads and saying "What the F**K!"

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#15 Mar 1, 2014
F--K the Nazis wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, America has already done all it can to make sure Russia has no world standing, so what the hell does it have to lose?
No more bargaining chips on the table, Obama. You're tough out of luck.
The really sad thing (and I feel sorry for Obama, the Constitutional lawyer) is that if this coup were ever to go before an unbiased international court for a ruling on legitimacy, they would be laughed out of court. I've been listening to some of the nonsensical little nitpicking arguments put forth to give it an air of legitimacy and it's really comical.
Russia's reputation in the US and parts of Europe maybe, but not the whole world. I wouldn't worry about it and I'm sure Russia isn't worried about it either lol. What would they look like had they done nothing and allowed these people to take their navy base?! Russia would look weak and not just to the west.

How can it be legal for a violent mob overthrew the government? I don't understand how this can be spun into something 'pro democracy'.
Cordwainer Trout

Greensburg, KY

#16 Mar 2, 2014
Obama wants to make the US look ridiculous. The leadership of the extremely hateful National Socialists in Ukraine has called for the vicious terrorists in Chechnya to attack Russia. These are the violent thugs Obama has been supporting as their elements murdered police and illegally took over Ukraine's government in Kiev. In response to this extreme hate of Jews and ethnic Russians, about 150,000 people have sought refuge in Russia. Thousands of people are protesting in the streets against the illegal takeover in Kiev.

It is beyond understanding how Obama could repeatedly throw his support behind street rabble and terrorists and no US politician has the balls to call him on it! He's done it in Libya, Egypt, Syria and now Ukraine. It's insane.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#18 Mar 2, 2014
How did Putin take the Syrian"red line"?Russia has a warm water port there.History shows that Russia will go to war to claim/protect these ports.Look what happened in Finland during WW2.Obama set a dangerous course with"wait until the election is over"and the"Syrian red line."Two things are certain,Obama is the wrong man at the wrong point in history and Obama is no Truman.
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>Obama has just warned Putin that Russia's world standing is at stake!
I wonder how Putin will react to this threat?
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#19 Mar 2, 2014
Sunshine.From what I've read Ukrainians are treated as second class citizens by Russians.Russian is the"official"languag e and Ukrainian is treated as a peasant language.I understand that there are"east bank,west bank"divisions in the country.
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see Russia trying to assert itself as a superpower at all. I see Russia asserting their right to protect their naval base.
I have seen west Ukrainians making threats and calling for the overthrow of Yanukovych since 2010. I see the people in Crimea frightened and asking for help. I think Russia has been pretty reasonable so far. I think Yanukovych was far too weak in his response.
A serf of Russia vs a serf of the EU... good question!
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#20 Mar 2, 2014
If this is true.We should look at what happen in Afghanistan to the Soviets and the US when Muj bite the hand that arms them.The US repeated misses the lesson learned in Vietnam.Do not get involved in civil wars between countries half a globe away.Ukraine is in Russia's geopolitical sphere.All that will happen is Ukraine will become a magnet for Chechen terrorists.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Obama wants to make the US look ridiculous. The leadership of the extremely hateful National Socialists in Ukraine has called for the vicious terrorists in Chechnya to attack Russia. These are the violent thugs Obama has been supporting as their elements murdered police and illegally took over Ukraine's government in Kiev. In response to this extreme hate of Jews and ethnic Russians, about 150,000 people have sought refuge in Russia. Thousands of people are protesting in the streets against the illegal takeover in Kiev.
It is beyond understanding how Obama could repeatedly throw his support behind street rabble and terrorists and no US politician has the balls to call him on it! He's done it in Libya, Egypt, Syria and now Ukraine. It's insane.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#21 Mar 2, 2014
Internet chop."repeatedly"

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