House cmte hears testimony on death p...

House cmte hears testimony on death penalty bill

There are 2 comments on the KFBB story from Feb 15, 2013, titled House cmte hears testimony on death penalty bill. In it, KFBB reports that:

Members of a House committee heard emotional testimony on a bill that would end the death penalty and replace it with life in prison without parole to save taxpayers the expense of such cases and prevent the possible death of a wrongfully convicted person.

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Nautilus1

United States

#1 Feb 16, 2013
"Marietta Jager Lane supports the bill even after her 7-year-old daughter was kidnapped in 1973, repeatedly raped, killed and dismembered. She told the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday that her daughter deserves a more honorable memorial than the state-sanctioned premeditated killing of another person."

May be Ms. Lane would like a town named after her daughter. Better wait until he kills another in prison so she really has something to celebrate.
Dudley Sharp

Houston, TX

#2 Feb 17, 2013
DEAD WRONG: Death Penalty Opponents
Dudley Sharp
In no way do I believe the Montana legislators who are sponsoring the death penalty repeal bill are being dishonest. I, simply, think they are wrong and that some of their anti death penalty collaborators have been less than forthcoming.
I encourage fact checking of all points on all sides.
1) THE INNOCENCE FRAUD
Depending upon review, some 25-40 actual innocents have been discovered and released from death row, since 1976 (1), not the fraudulent numbers, now 142, that death penalty opponents have been spewing for over a decade.
That means the death penalty is 99.6% accurate in convicting the actually guilty and, so far, 100% successful in releasing them upon appeal, a record of accuracy, possibly, unmatched by any other sanction in the world.
So too, we find similar false claims with regard to the innocent executed (2).
The reality is:
NO DEATH PENALTY EQUALS MORE HARM FOR INNOCENTS (3). Please review.
2) SAVING COSTS WITH THE DEATH PENALTY
As a general rule, not one fact checks the death penalty cost studies. If you do, you find many are either completely unreliable, because there is no true apples to apples comparison to life without parole (LWOP)(4) and /or they are deceptive, with findings contrary to what we have heard in the public square (4).
Could all states have a responsible death penalty protocol that was similar in costs to LWOP? Of course -- If all states had a protocol as Virginia's, with 72%(or 108) of those sent to death row being executed, within 7.1 years, on average, per cases (4), it is likely all states would save money by so enforcing the death penalty.
Are there any reliable studies comparing death penalty costs to LWOP costs in Montana? No.
3) 95% OF FAMILIES OF MURDER VICTIMS SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY
For our worst capital murders, that is what the anecdotal evidence shows (5). Not surprising, as 80% of the general population also supports the death penalty for our worst capital murders (5).
Why? Justice.
The polling confusion arises, as many polls ask only about death penalty support for all murders, for which about 90% are no death penalty eligible.
When polls ask about truly death penalty eligible murders, such as mass and serial murders, the rape and murder of children, etc., support goes up to 80%, with only 16% opposition (5).
4) JUSTICE: THE ETERNAL REASON TO SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY
---- Saint (& Pope) Pius V: "The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder." "The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent" (1566).
---- Immanuel Kant: "If an offender has committed murder, he must die. In this case, no possible substitute can satisfy justice. For there is no parallel between death and even the most miserable life, so that there is no equality of crime and retribution unless the perpetrator is judicially put to death.". "A society that is not willing to demand a life of somebody who has taken somebody else's life is simply immoral."

---- Pope Pius XII; "When it is a question of the execution of a man condemned to death it is then reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned of the benefit of life, in expiation of his fault, when already, by his fault, he has dispossessed himself of the right to live." 9/14/52.
---- John Murray: "Nothing shows the moral bankruptcy of a people or of a generation more than disregard for the sanctity of human life." "... it is this same atrophy of moral fiber that appears in the plea for the abolition of the death penalty." "It is the sanctity of life that validates the death penalty for the crime of murder. It is the sense of this sanctity that constrains the demand for the infliction of this penalty. The deeper our regard for life the firmer will be our hold upon the penal sanction which the violation of that sanctity merit." (Page 122 of Principles of Conduct).

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