Self-defense alleged in shooting death

Self-defense alleged in shooting death

There are 153 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 5, 2008, titled Self-defense alleged in shooting death. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Dillon Ching arrived home at Sunset Beach last year to find up to 40 people, some of them admittedly drunk, fighting on or along Kamehameha Highway with beer bottles and baseball bats flying.

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Love Waianae

Ewa Beach, HI

#137 Aug 8, 2008
hater wrote:
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he played god.. and poor little boy ching was left askinig for daddy.. his wife was pregnent at the time... when her yopungest son grows up shell have to explain how daddy got MURDERED
I wonder if she'll include the part where she told him to get involved in the fight in the first place.
HAYNinAK

Anchorage, AK

#138 Aug 8, 2008
2nd Am wrote:
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Depends what kind of lethal force. Carrying a gun? No no.
read sec 703-4 of your state laws. You are mistaken, and confusing the manner in which a weapon must be transported with your right to use it in self defense.
2nd Am

Kahului, HI

#139 Aug 8, 2008
HAYNinAK wrote:
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read sec 703-4 of your state laws. You are mistaken, and confusing the manner in which a weapon must be transported with your right to use it in self defense.
Where in the Hawaii Revised Statutes does it relate that you can carry a firearm and use it for deadly force?

Deadly force can be used when your life is in danger.

Deadly force can include a corotid neck restraint, strike to the head and other ways that may cause death.

My concern is that when a firearm that is carried illegally and used in that self protection away from the home.

The HRS is my other bible. Correct me if I'm wrong.
northshore girl

United States

#140 Jan 30, 2012
big red wrote:
throw the loser and his tough friends in the slammer for life. Oh, wait, never mind that, thats going to cost tax payers some big Kala. Just give um the rope to hang in the wind. Eye for an eye.
Eye for an eyee,tooth for a tooth. That Haole has also raped several girls on northshore and even though he is out, he will eventually have to pay the piper. That is what I love about my Ohana, shit happens. He will get his. Aloha and thank you mokes that know how to keep the island safe. Shit happens.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#141 Jan 30, 2012
traveling_local wrote:
How can they plead "self defense" when nobody else had a fire arm?!
You're stupid.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#142 Jan 30, 2012
Singapore Dreams wrote:
If you can't afford a liar (lawyer)- one will be provided to you by the state...
If lawyers are liars, then the prosecutor is lying in his charges against the defendant.
aloha

San Diego, CA

#143 Jun 27, 2014
Kamaki had a big heart and I doubt he would have ever purposely killed someone. He's not my blood but not even blood could make us more of sister brother. He was the type of person to give his last dollar if someone needed it, his shirt on his back if it came to that. Sometimes we do things we didn't intend on doing and this may be one of those things. Regardless if it was an accident or not my bro is doing his time. Leave it alone already. God bless the Ching Ohana as well. Love you Makz keep your head up bro.
Alice

Waipahu, HI

#144 Jun 27, 2014
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>You're stupid.
May we call you Dick for short. OR maybe uzi breath.
RICO

Mililani, HI

#145 Jun 27, 2014
Bwa-ha-ha-ha.
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#146 Sep 16, 2014
Liberal gun haters want you to do the following. Before allowing your kids to go play at the neighbors, ask them if they have guns in the home, and if so, to stop being friends with them immediately. Man, I can't wait to be asked this question because the liberals I know are ALL assholes-extrodinaire and I can't wait to send them down the driveway, pissing all over themselves. Peace at last !
District 1

Kihei, HI

#147 Sep 16, 2014
Dustin Jimenez was found GUILTY in 2008.
Hawaii needs the death penalty.
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#148 Sep 17, 2014
District 1 wrote:
Dustin Jimenez was found GUILTY in 2008.
Hawaii needs the death penalty.
Jimenez was a thug that was just waiting to shoot his gun at somebody. His girlfriend (who knew he was packing but did nothing) had pissed him off and he went looking for someone to shoot at, and he found some more drunk punkasses to drink with some more. The victim is at fault too, letting himself get involved in the fight at his wife's insistance. See where I'm going with this? Two men that didn't know each other, one dead, one in prison for twenty years, all because they had hysterical bitches wanting them to fight. To hell with gun permits, they need HO permits before they get involved with welfare queens.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#149 Sep 17, 2014
pocho wrote:
Dis is stupid, did the shooter to have a permit to carry a concealed weapon?
Most likely not. However while he may be guilty of some firearms violation, he can still claim self-defense in using the weapon he had illegally. What the prosecution would have to prove in a murder charge, was if he illegally packed the gun with the intent to kill. IF they cannot prove that, then the self-defense "excuse" would be valid in a court of law. The illegal carrying of the weapon would be a different issue where he can, and likely will be convicted regardless of the outcome of the murder trial.

Still, because the prosecution may not have put all of the charges together, he MIGHT get off on the illegal packing of the weapon because of "double jeopardy". That would come under the term called "Collateral Estoppel"..
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#150 Sep 17, 2014
Just for the record, he received twenty years on the one charge of using a gun in a bat - fight, as well as a second conviction of not having a permit to carry, the other felonies (about 3?) got him life in prison, but the use of the gun made it so he won't see daylight for at least twenty years.
The victim, on the other hand, wasn't there to "help" stop the fight either, like his wife testified. She told him his two brothers were in the middle of a huge fight, and that he had to go "Get them Baby." She was his cheerleerleader right up until the third shot was fired. The bitch knew there was a gun involved because Jimenez had already fired twice before she sent her husband into his death.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#151 Sep 17, 2014
Joe Balls wrote:
Just for the record, he received twenty years on the one charge of using a gun in a bat - fight, as well as a second conviction of not having a permit to carry, the other felonies (about 3?) got him life in prison, but the use of the gun made it so he won't see daylight for at least twenty years.
The victim, on the other hand, wasn't there to "help" stop the fight either, like his wife testified. She told him his two brothers were in the middle of a huge fight, and that he had to go "Get them Baby." She was his cheerleerleader right up until the third shot was fired. The bitch knew there was a gun involved because Jimenez had already fired twice before she sent her husband into his death.
Hi JB,
Don't try to kid yourself on the convictions and sentences in this liberal state. If sentenced to Life WITHOUT Parole, it means that he will not be eligible for parole in 20 years, but he could get out on an illness. In the State of Hawaii, there is no such thing as "truth sentencing". This is one of the reasons I favor capital punishment. At least, when a person is sentenced to death, he will never get out of prison until he either dies, gets his sentence commuted, or is somehow exonerated because of innocence.

Once capital punishment was abolished in Hawaii, next was Life Without Parole, then "truth sentencing" went out the window,
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#152 Sep 17, 2014
Bakatari wrote:
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Hi JB,
Don't try to kid yourself on the convictions and sentences in this liberal state. If sentenced to Life WITHOUT Parole, it means that he will not be eligible for parole in 20 years, but he could get out on an illness. In the State of Hawaii, there is no such thing as "truth sentencing". This is one of the reasons I favor capital punishment. At least, when a person is sentenced to death, he will never get out of prison until he either dies, gets his sentence commuted, or is somehow exonerated because of innocence.
Once capital punishment was abolished in Hawaii, next was Life Without Parole, then "truth sentencing" went out the window,
I'm well aware of the lenient parole system we have.. On the other hand, I have a friend in Halawa that just got five to ten years tacked onto his original sentence for smuggling in cigarettes. Go figger. He's not rich enough to pay bribes or "donate" to local democrats.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#153 Sep 18, 2014
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> I'm well aware of the lenient parole system we have.. On the other hand, I have a friend in Halawa that just got five to ten years tacked onto his original sentence for smuggling in cigarettes. Go figger. He's not rich enough to pay bribes or "donate" to local democrats.
Was that for smuggling in tobacco or pot? If tobacco, I didn't know they disallowed cigarette smoking in the prisons now. I do know that they banned cigarette smoking in a few prisons, especially the ones in Texas.
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#154 Sep 18, 2014
Bakatari wrote:
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Was that for smuggling in tobacco or pot? If tobacco, I didn't know they disallowed cigarette smoking in the prisons now. I do know that they banned cigarette smoking in a few prisons, especially the ones in Texas.
He said "cigarettes" so I imagine it was only tobacco. He was in minimum security getting ready to be released by now, but now he's in Halawa again. Dumbass, yeah? Right now he can't even use the phone, they must want him to tell on the guards that brought it in. He's playing a dangerous game.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#155 Sep 19, 2014
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> He said "cigarettes" so I imagine it was only tobacco. He was in minimum security getting ready to be released by now, but now he's in Halawa again. Dumbass, yeah? Right now he can't even use the phone, they must want him to tell on the guards that brought it in. He's playing a dangerous game.
I have a friend who works at the Halawa Facility. I will ask him about tobacco being a "contraband" in that prison. At this point, I don't think it is, but the last time I saw a person I know, who was an inmate, smoking tobacco in prison here was allowed, but that was more than 25 years ago.
Joe Balls

Honolulu, HI

#156 Sep 19, 2014
Bakatari wrote:
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I have a friend who works at the Halawa Facility. I will ask him about tobacco being a "contraband" in that prison. At this point, I don't think it is, but the last time I saw a person I know, who was an inmate, smoking tobacco in prison here was allowed, but that was more than 25 years ago.
Let me know what you find out. This guy was in an Arizona prison until a few months ago, so could be the incident happened there and he is only now being punished, but I'm pretty sure the smuggling was in Hawaii, at the minimum security facility. LOL, I talk to his father every day, but he is so mad at his son for doing this stuff he may not want to talk about it. His dad is also mad because the kid got ten years for his first offense, for abusing his girl friend. She set him up and he fell for it, ad his dad is still pissed at his son for being such a sucker and douch-bag. It's pretty convoluted, but basically she got out of a manslaughter charge at the same time he was arrested and charged. We think a deal was made to set up the male half of the couple because she and the person she killed were nobodies, no good political press out of bagging her. But he was involved in cops dealing ice. Remember the Police Major in Waianae that was arrested for being a King Pin? Notice how you never heard of it again?

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