Jury Convicts Valliant Man Of Killing...

Jury Convicts Valliant Man Of Killing Wife 11 Years Ago

There are 530 comments on the KTEN-TV Denison story from Oct 30, 2013, titled Jury Convicts Valliant Man Of Killing Wife 11 Years Ago. In it, KTEN-TV Denison reports that:

A McCurtain County jury has convicted a man whose wife disappeared a decade ago.

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can i be a meme now

Sulphur, OK

#81 Nov 11, 2013
"I would like to know who all was part of that group,wiccans, and find out which other members packed up and left the area."

"That would be evidence of an unstable mind, in a case as this all evidence should have been admitted regardless for which side it affected."

(the above was written by: Kelly Brooks on Justice For Jerry)

I can't address these things on your facebook support page because I choose not to use those types of platforms for personal reasons. But if you are all reading these forums, then you can see it here.

Some of the churches around here come to my door early in the morning. I have asked them time and time again to please not disrupt my sleep or study. But they come anyway because they believe that some "presence" that they have never seen, heard, felt, tasted or smelled compels them to knock on my door in disrespect. They tell me that this is to save me from a fire that will never be quenched because I have committed some transgression against a Jewish man who was born of a virgin. They believe that this resurrected Jewish man who was once dead, and is also his own father, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in all of humanity because a woman created from another man's rib in the Middle East was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

But let me get this straight. People who "don't" believe this story are mentally unstable? Right.
Fan of Bruce

Quitman, TX

#82 Nov 11, 2013
Bruce Willingham wrote:
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Just came across this. Thanks so much for your kind comment. We thought it was a really important case to cover. People assume it's over, but the outcome has not come yet. Watch and wait. You may hate me when you learn everything. Hopefully not. Come back when it's over and let me know.
Sat behind you in court one day. You were at the preliminary I covered in March. To those who question why I THANKED Bruce? The answer is that print media doesn't come cheap these days, not many crime reporters capable of being FAIR and covering a difficult story. Thanks again Bruce:)
Viewer

Sulphur, OK

#83 Nov 11, 2013
Polishing Rough Ashlar wrote:
"The DA should have checked out her friends that she was out with all hours of the night and day, Some of them were involved in Wiccan that, and other things. I would think even her family would want them investigated . None of these people were investigated. They went with the adage that the husband did it , they used all their energy trying to find things against Jerry, the same way they did the Ramsey's, when Jon Benet was killed. There are some violent people out there, with the way Hope fought Jerry ,if she did that to someone when she was at a party , that might be the reason she decided to leave for awhile and let things cool down, but she did not get away from someone soon enough.... JUSTICE FOR JERRY." ~~~Myra Scott Glover~~~
I was investigated by the OSBI. I was interviewed by two men, one from the State and one from the local police force. Kenny Jennings was also present. The upside down pentagram business had nothing to do with Wicca or Satanism or any religion. It was on the front cover of a monitor that my ex-wife and I were studying as newly initiated members of the Order of the Eastern Star, Chapter 202, Idabel, OK. Many of the other people Hopey spent time with did not have any strong religious beliefs or were self-professed Christians. There is no major presence of Wiccan practitioners in this part of the country. If there were, they would be less threatening than baseball card collectors or PETA or some other benign group. There is probably less than a dozen people in McCurtain County "dabbling" with Wiccan belief systems. I knew Hopey and she was curious about a lot of things, but she didn't practice anything. I don't know where your information is coming from, but it is, at least partially, inaccurate.
The police could have ruled out Jerry if he would have taken a lie detector test and cooperated with the police.
they trash Hope

Broken Bow, OK

#84 Nov 11, 2013
Myra Glover keeps trying to pick the speck out of a dead woman's eye. Somebody could sure point out the plank in Myras eye.

Auntie Joye, if people want to donate they sure can but it is not right or legal to use the school as a collection sight. Funny how you all are now so interested in trying to convince everyone that Hope is alive. You weren't saying that when your niece Tiffanie moved in with her killer and then get knocked up! Put your mind at ease and ask Jerry to take a lie detector. You all have been deceived and refuse to see it.
I Come In Peace

Sulphur, OK

#85 Nov 11, 2013
they trash Hope wrote:
Myra Glover keeps trying to pick the speck out of a dead woman's eye. Somebody could sure point out the plank in Myras eye.
I know Myra Glover and her husband Bobby. I've known them all of my life. She has a right to her opinion, everyone does. I don't overly agree with some of the things she has said, nor do I believe some of the questions posed have any relevance to the case. But her and her husband are overall good people. When my Son was here and we went to the local park, I found out that all of the awesome things we got to do there were in part because of the Glover's contributions. They have done many good things for many people here. This one thing, even though I probably know more about Hope's religious beliefs than any of the people talking about it, doesn't change my respect and admiration for the Glover Family. Not a bit.

That said, I was also close with Bobby's father, Archie Glover. He was very misunderstood by the people of this county. He was misunderstood by his doctors, his family, and he was a very loud, opinionated protester against anything and everything that he didn't agree with. Sometimes irrational? Absolutely. He thought he had entered an extra-terrestrial craft and traveled into outer space. At times he felt he had a direct line of contact to the Holy Ghost. But did he make waves that changed some things? Did he make a difference? Yes he did. I talked to Judge Gail Craytor several times about Archie Glover and though some of his behavior was considered highly inappropriate, he didn't quit. Craytor admired his stamina. He admired his vision, however distorted it seemed to "normal" people. He had an idea that he got behind and he didn't budge unless something told him to. He had a real faith that transcends reason or norms or mores or social acceptance. Yesterday's "nut" is today's mighty Oak. I don't know how many times people told me that he didn't do his family right and abused them, but then I would see him at the steak house giving out hundred dollar bills to people because something inside him told him to do that. Was he mentally unstable? Probably. But we need these people in our community. He fulfilled, strangely, a role that is always needed in a group of people in order to be balanced and in harmony with nature. The misunderstood. The fool. The medicine man. Medicine woman. The jester. The artist. The actor. Shaman. Magician. Healer. Whatever you want to call it. Please don't lump mental instability all together and invalidate peoples' legacy and please don't lump spiritual systems all together that you do not understand and invalidate the memory of someone you did not even know personally.

I kind of went on a rant but maybe you can see the forest for the trees. If not, that's alright too. We're all in this together. Try to be kind, patient, forgiving, compassionate, understanding. There is no wrong that is so wrong that it completely invalidates the person forever. The act is not the person. Remember that.
Viewer

Sulphur, OK

#87 Nov 11, 2013
I Come In Peace wrote:
<quoted text>
I know Myra Glover and her husband Bobby. I've known them all of my life. She has a right to her opinion, everyone does. I don't overly agree with some of the things she has said, nor do I believe some of the questions posed have any relevance to the case. But her and her husband are overall good people. When my Son was here and we went to the local park, I found out that all of the awesome things we got to do there were in part because of the Glover's contributions. They have done many good things for many people here. This one thing, even though I probably know more about Hope's religious beliefs than any of the people talking about it, doesn't change my respect and admiration for the Glover Family. Not a bit.
That said, I was also close with Bobby's father, Archie Glover. He was very misunderstood by the people of this county. He was misunderstood by his doctors, his family, and he was a very loud, opinionated protester against anything and everything that he didn't agree with. Sometimes irrational? Absolutely. He thought he had entered an extra-terrestrial craft and traveled into outer space. At times he felt he had a direct line of contact to the Holy Ghost. But did he make waves that changed some things? Did he make a difference? Yes he did. I talked to Judge Gail Craytor several times about Archie Glover and though some of his behavior was considered highly inappropriate, he didn't quit. Craytor admired his stamina. He admired his vision, however distorted it seemed to "normal" people. He had an idea that he got behind and he didn't budge unless something told him to. He had a real faith that transcends reason or norms or mores or social acceptance. Yesterday's "nut" is today's mighty Oak. I don't know how many times people told me that he didn't do his family right and abused them, but then I would see him at the steak house giving out hundred dollar bills to people because something inside him told him to do that. Was he mentally unstable? Probably. But we need these people in our community. He fulfilled, strangely, a role that is always needed in a group of people in order to be balanced and in harmony with nature. The misunderstood. The fool. The medicine man. Medicine woman. The jester. The artist. The actor. Shaman. Magician. Healer. Whatever you want to call it. Please don't lump mental instability all together and invalidate peoples' legacy and please don't lump spiritual systems all together that you do not understand and invalidate the memory of someone you did not even know personally.
I kind of went on a rant but maybe you can see the forest for the trees. If not, that's alright too. We're all in this together. Try to be kind, patient, forgiving, compassionate, understanding. There is no wrong that is so wrong that it completely invalidates the person forever. The act is not the person. Remember that.
We had a great video store here in Valliant, one of the first in the county. He did really good, probably too good. He rented space in Myra and Bobby's building. It was a rumor that they didn't renew his lease and opened their own video store. He opened a store in Idabel but never really got it going. I know this is considered good business practices but always thought it was not a WWJD moment.
Questions

Earlsboro, OK

#88 Nov 11, 2013
Name wrote:
Since all of you seem to KNOW that Jerry murdered Hope then why don't you guys show the body you found or some kind of blood or just some kind of EVIDENCE, just because it got quiet after an argument isn't uncommon at all. I'm not taking up for the guy but it's not what you know, it's what you can prove! I can't wait to hear some educated replies filled with misspelled words and grammar errors!
The verdict is in...so I am late in commenting. I don't know any of those involved...on either side. The problem I have with all of those who say...no body/no crime...or...you can't prove he did it without a body. That is ridiculous. With that thinking, anyone who wants to commit murder and get away with it just has to be good at/successful at destroying the body. How would that make sense?
Anonymous

United States

#89 Nov 11, 2013
Name wrote:
Since all of you seem to KNOW that Jerry murdered Hope then why don't you guys show the body you found or some kind of blood or just some kind of EVIDENCE, just because it got quiet after an argument isn't uncommon at all. I'm not taking up for the guy but it's not what you know, it's what you can prove! I can't wait to hear some educated replies filled with misspelled words and grammar errors!
"Since all of you seem to KNOW that Jerry murdered Hope(,)[no need for the 'then'] why don't you guys show the body you found(,)[no need for this 'or'] some kind of blood(,) or just some kind of EVIDENCE(?) Just because it [became] quiet after an argument (...)[Well,] that isn't uncommon at all.
(New paragraph)
I'm not taking up for the guy(,) but it's not what you know(,) it's what you can prove!
(New paragraph; even though, technically, you did not give enough supporting commentary to develop the last sentiment into a paragraph)
I can't wait to hear some educated replies filled with misspelled words and grammar errors!"

I am a little aggravated when people use poor grammar or spelling against others when in a forum that is informal. I am slightly more aggravated when they are not well written enough to make their point.
Yes, the literacy rate is below average in McCurtain county. You do not have to rub noses in it. That being said, not all of us that support the DA in this are foolish or uneducated.
Chrissy

Houston, TX

#90 Nov 11, 2013
Im very glad to hear some explaining that Hope was not truly into wiccan and such. I wish the one saying bad things would have personally known Hope. She wa sa lovely, sweet, loving, beautiful and caring woman. She loved her children and her family very much. She put her children first, she stayed in very close contact with her mother and sister and was doing all she could to make things better for her children and herself. She was working for the jail, they even said she never picked up her last check at the time she disappeared.
And I whole heart agree that if Jerry Meek had just taken a lie detector test and helped the authorities, instead of his strange behavior, then maybe more would have believed him. But he lawyered up, never called the authorities to see if they had any leads in the case, kept the children away from Hope's mother. And I have to say, the person who said somebody can committ murder and destroy or get rid of the body is right. It happens everyday in this country. Hope is not alive, would never have just walked away. She cherished her life and her family too much for that. It is Jerry Meek who is lieing and trying to blow smoke.
As for the community bringing things to Ms.Oney at the school, that should not be allowed. Also, where was the help for th Boggs family when they went to the county searching for Hope, putting fliers up and all. The only thing that happened was that Jerry Meek was seen taking the fliers down. Does that sound like a husband or father?? Not in my eyes. Sounds to me like the jury was totally correct in finding him guilty of his lovely young wife's murder. Now he needs to rot in prison for the rest of his life
Joye Davis Hylton

Dallas, TX

#91 Nov 12, 2013
they trash Hope wrote:
Myra Glover keeps trying to pick the speck out of a dead woman's eye. Somebody could sure point out the plank in Myras eye.
Auntie Joye, if people want to donate they sure can but it is not right or legal to use the school as a collection sight. Funny how you all are now so interested in trying to convince everyone that Hope is alive. You weren't saying that when your niece Tiffanie moved in with her killer and then get knocked up! Put your mind at ease and ask Jerry to take a lie detector. You all have been deceived and refuse to see it.
THEY TRASH HOPE, I didn't say anything about donations, I was not even aware of it. I think you are confusing me with someone else. I love Tiffanie and think everyone should be thankful she stepped up and took those kids under her wing and has been the best thing that could have happened to them.
Seriously

United States

#92 Nov 12, 2013
Joye Davis Hylton wrote:
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THEY TRASH HOPE, I didn't say anything about donations, I was not even aware of it. I think you are confusing me with someone else. I love Tiffanie and think everyone should be thankful she stepped up and took those kids under her wing and has been the best thing that could have happened to them.
Don't you mean moved in an took another woman's family. Doesn't say much about her morals if you ask me!
Joye Davis Hylton

Dallas, TX

#93 Nov 12, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you mean moved in an took another woman's family. Doesn't say much about her morals if you ask me!
No, that's not what I mean and I don't think we really care what you think.
Viewer

Sulphur, OK

#94 Nov 12, 2013
Joye Davis Hylton wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that's not what I mean and I don't think we really care what you think.
Joye, do you know why he wouldn't take a lie detector test or cooperate with the local police.
Another Local

Woodward, OK

#95 Nov 12, 2013
Wow, this site doesn't like my comments. Not profane, threatening or otherwise against TOS. Really only agreeing/disagreeing with previous posts. Hmmmm?
Another Local

Woodward, OK

#96 Nov 12, 2013
Something everyone seems to be overlooking is the fact that Jerry had 11 years to rehearse his story, influence peoples “memory”, to develop his “quiet, unassuming man” and “wonderful father” persona.

Let me just ask you, if YOU were suspected in the disappearance of a spouse (guilty or not aside), how would YOU act? Would you submit to the polygraph, cooperate with the investigation, would you go to the ends of the earth to find said spouse, in the effort to clear your name? Well, Jerry didn’t! Or would you just be the same person, with angry outbursts that many do remember, and maybe even beating up on the new lover? I think not. You would be carefully crafting a new personality, a new life that was above reproach. Maybe you would join a church, ingratiate yourself with upstanding people, and lead a “quiet, unassuming” life? And all the while hoping that enough time will pass so people will only remember the “wonderful father” and “quiet, unassuming man”.

I find it sad that he actually fooled so many people, upstanding and very intelligent people at that. I suppose one might initially forgive Tiff…babysitters often crush on the man and fantasize about being the “woman” of the house. It happens all the time with young babysitters. But it’s not often that she moves right on in under a cloud of suspicion. I mean really, she NEVER had a suspicion? NEVER had a moment of doubt? And some of her actions are a bit suspect as well. She crawled in his bed knowing where this might go, so she made her choice and lost my sympathy vote.

The kids, now that is sad. My heart breaks for them. They do need our prayers (to whichever God you choose) and our support. They will suffer the sins of the parent(s), and it’s really not fair, so people please be kind to the children.

And for those who are trashing our judge, DA, jury members etc., well just get over yourselves. The DA didn’t need to convince YOU, just TWELVE other people, which they obviously did. They worked hard, and with righteous conscious. I don’t envy them, they did a wonderful and very difficult job. So if Mr. Meek had a crappy attorney, well he chose the guy, and it’s just sad that all their money didn’t buy them a better one!

I also agree with the previous poster that it is preposterous to assume one can only be found guilty if there is a body. That would imply that murder is okay as long as you can make sure the body is destroyed or otherwise never found. Ridiculous indeed!

We do know this: 1) they argued often and it was violent (looks like a duck). 2) she disappeared without a trace and left behind everything that was important to her (walks like a duck. 3) hubby did some suspicious things in the days immediately thereafter, and babysitter moved right in to take her place (sounds like a duck). So don’t insult my intelligence by saying it’s only a sparrow when I’m pretty sure that I saw a duck. If there is a valid reason for an appeal, so be it. Otherwise, Mr. Meek will be a guest of the state for some time to come.

I personally would be happy if he received an 11 year sentence, matched year for year to each of the years of freedom he has enjoyed since Hope’s death, BUT ONLY, ONLY, ONLY if he gives up the location of her remains. This would be win/win. His family gets him back sooner ( 11 vs 38 years is huge!), and her family gets to put her to rest. Finally.
Seriously

United States

#97 Nov 12, 2013
Another Local wrote:
Something everyone seems to be overlooking is the fact that Jerry had 11 years to rehearse his story, influence peoples “memory”, to develop his “quiet, unassuming man” and “wonderful father” persona.
Let me just ask you, if YOU were suspected in the disappearance of a spouse (guilty or not aside), how would YOU act? Would you submit to the polygraph, cooperate with the investigation, would you go to the ends of the earth to find said spouse, in the effort to clear your name? Well, Jerry didn’t! Or would you just be the same person, with angry outbursts that many do remember, and maybe even beating up on the new lover? I think not. You would be carefully crafting a new personality, a new life that was above reproach. Maybe you would join a church, ingratiate yourself with upstanding people, and lead a “quiet, unassuming” life? And all the while hoping that enough time will pass so people will only remember the “wonderful father” and “quiet, unassuming man”.
I find it sad that he actually fooled so many people, upstanding and very intelligent people at that. I suppose one might initially forgive Tiff…babysitters often crush on the man and fantasize about being the “woman” of the house. It happens all the time with young babysitters. But it’s not often that she moves right on in under a cloud of suspicion. I mean really, she NEVER had a suspicion? NEVER had a moment of doubt? And some of her actions are a bit suspect as well. She crawled in his bed knowing where this might go, so she made her choice and lost my sympathy vote.
The kids, now that is sad. My heart breaks for them. They do need our prayers (to whichever God you choose) and our support. They will suffer the sins of the parent(s), and it’s really not fair, so people please be kind to the children.
And for those who are trashing our judge, DA, jury members etc., well just get over yourselves. The DA didn’t need to convince YOU, just TWELVE other people, which they obviously did. They worked hard, and with righteous conscious. I don’t envy them, they did a wonderful and very difficult job. So if Mr. Meek had a crappy attorney, well he chose the guy, and it’s just sad that all their money didn’t buy them a better one!
I also agree with the previous poster that it is preposterous to assume one can only be found guilty if there is a body. That would imply that murder is okay as long as you can make sure the body is destroyed or otherwise never found. Ridiculous indeed!
We do know this: 1) they argued often and it was violent (looks like a duck). 2) she disappeared without a trace and left behind everything that was important to her (walks like a duck. 3) hubby did some suspicious things in the days immediately thereafter, and babysitter moved right in to take her place (sounds like a duck). So don’t insult my intelligence by saying it’s only a sparrow when I’m pretty sure that I saw a duck. If there is a valid reason for an appeal, so be it. Otherwise, Mr. Meek will be a guest of the state for some time to come.
I personally would be happy if he received an 11 year sentence, matched year for year to each of the years of freedom he has enjoyed since Hope’s death, BUT ONLY, ONLY, ONLY if he gives up the location of her remains. This would be win/win. His family gets him back sooner ( 11 vs 38 years is huge!), and her family gets to put her to rest. Finally.
Very well said!
what

Sulphur, OK

#98 Nov 12, 2013
Joye Davis Hylton wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that's not what I mean and I don't think we really care what you think.
We? just how many people are you? i thought you were one person, what does the "we" mean?
what

Sulphur, OK

#99 Nov 12, 2013
Another Local wrote:
Wow, this site doesn't like my comments. Not profane, threatening or otherwise against TOS. Really only agreeing/disagreeing with previous posts. Hmmmm?
the longer the post, the longer it takes to show up

if you havent received a "red" warning yet, then youre good so far
Local

Sulphur, OK

#103 Nov 12, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>Very well said!
Yes, very well said!
oioio

Sulphur, OK

#106 Nov 12, 2013
Tiffanie wrote:
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This is Tiffanie and I have had no problems with Sheila throughout the years. Maybe sometime soon we can get the families together for dinner at a restaurant.
This is from the Justice For Jerry facebook page:

"During the trial the defense and his witnesses were not allowed to say witchcraft, hex, or spell. This was very important and now that the trial is over, they admit that Hope is a Wiccan. Tell me your thoughts."

Who is this "they" you speak of? I knew Hope personally and she wasn't a member of any religion. She asked me about stuff and she may have read from one or two of my books, but she didn't practice any religion at all. She was agnostic. She didn't know what she believed. I spent time at their house and Hope spent time at mine. We ate together sometimes, our families, and played spades a few times. I recall that we cared for her baby once or twice when she needed to be somewhere, probably a college thing. We had some of our connections help them with business affairs and they let us come over and use the internet when we didn't have any access. I considered them friends, but I was more friendly with Hope. Jerry didn't seem to care for us very much, he just seemed quiet and a lot more introverted than Hope. I'm trying to explain that I was close enough to them to know if Hope was religious or not. She wasn't. But all of this talk of sorcery, witchcraft, satanism, wicca, hexes, spells, is nothing more or less than sensationalism. If you disagree with me, where is the evidence? Did Hope receive any type of literature or correspondence courses in the mail? Did Hope have any cards identifying her membership in any sort of groups? Did she ever seek out membership in any groups? Is there any documentation whatsoever that signifies Hope was seriously interested in any of these things?

There is a real presence of those elements in this area and Hope never knocked on their door. Most people here have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to these types of things, which is probably just as well. Ignorance isn't always a negative thing.

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