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Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media

There are 66318 comments on the Wall Street Journal story from Mar 22, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media. In it, Wall Street Journal reports that:

Social media has put the spotlight on the story Trayvon Martin , an unarmed African-American teenager who was shot to death last month by a neighborhood watch captain in Florida.

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chris532008

Lafayette, LA

#58005 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
Hear the Zimmerman Defense Fund is raking in about $20,000 a month and has more than a half-million in it.
that would be good to hear that the people are backing a good cause wish it weren t going to the most part to attorneys and certainly not the corrupt court system, without them there would be no issue at all, they are generally on the wrong side of every issue, when they should have been against the police brutality in the rodney king case they just let the police have their way, just backwards today

Since: Jul 10

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#58006 May 1, 2013
chris532008 wrote:
<quoted text>that would be good to hear that the people are backing a good cause wish it weren t going to the most part to attorneys and certainly not the corrupt court system, without them there would be no issue at all, they are generally on the wrong side of every issue, when they should have been against the police brutality in the rodney king case they just let the police have their way, just backwards today
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The defense lawyer, Mark O'Mara, claims none of it is for Attorney fees.

Since: Feb 11

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#58007 May 1, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Whether Zimmerman stayed in his vehicle or not is not a legal issue since he broke no law by getting
He got out and chased after the boy- the boy who had ever right to be where he was at- he chased him down and confronted him.

The pedophile owns what he did, the pedophile owns the confrontations, the pedophile is going to spend much of the next ten years doing what you do for fun, Dongliquer.

Wipe your chin, flies...

Since: Feb 11

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#58008 May 1, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
If Martin was right by the house as he told Deedee, how come he was shot 70 yards north of the house?
It's over 70 yards to my mailbox from the front door.

I understand, FATTY: 70 yards is too far for you to walk & you'd call a cab.

PS: The boy had every right to be exactly where he was standing when he was confronted by your friend, the pedophile.

Since: Feb 11

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#58009 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
Hear the Zimmerman Defense Fund is raking in about $20,000 a month and has more than a half-million in it.
You have to know the O'mara is billing the pedophile as fast as the $$ are coming in.

Milking the fat cow, so to speak.

He won't have a dime by the time he reaches sentences; and if he has 9 cents left, the Martins will get that.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#58010 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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The defense lawyer, Mark O'Mara, claims none of it is for Attorney fees.
HAHAHAHAAH!

I point to _Bleak House_
Ascendo Tuum

Grimsby, Canada

#58011 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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The defense lawyer, Mark O'Mara, claims none of it is for Attorney fees.
ROTFALMFAO!!!.... ya O'Mara spent all that money to go to law school JUST to do pro bono work..... especially when GI Janie's groupies are sending in their welfare cheques!!

Ummm.... I got some land in the 'glades..... you interested??!! heh heh heh!
thebuzz

Carmel, IN

#58012 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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Oh they want SYG but not before a judge. They don't have the self-defense elements necessary to satisfy the law and would lose before a judge. Judges know the law. They want to bring it up before a jury that can be manipulated and persuaded of their position on self-defense. It would make no sense to put the weak self-defense case they have before a judge knowing it would be slapped down for lack of substance. If the defense thought for a moment they clearly met the requirements of self-defense Zimmerman could be a free man this morning.
Are you a mind reader or a non reader? The defense lawyers stated to the press they didn't have time to prepare for both cases which was why they were going to deal with both at the trial. It's very interesting how the judge didn't want that. Typical big govt. bully and one who wants to cost the taxpayers even more money trying to defend their lynch mob politics. Why would the judge not allow syg at the trial? Very suspicious.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#58013 May 1, 2013
thebuzz wrote:
<quoted text>Are you a mind reader or a non reader? The defense lawyers stated to the press they didn't have time to prepare for both cases which was why they were going to deal with both at the trial. It's very interesting how the judge didn't want that. Typical big govt. bully and one who wants to cost the taxpayers even more money trying to defend their lynch mob politics. Why would the judge not allow syg at the trial? Very suspicious.
That's their claim son.

Besides, they're free to try and dump the judge... again!
thebuzz

Carmel, IN

#58014 May 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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He got out and chased after the boy- the boy who had ever right to be where he was at- he chased him down and confronted him.
The pedophile owns what he did, the pedophile owns the confrontations, the pedophile is going to spend much of the next ten years doing what you do for fun, Dongliquer.
Wipe your chin, flies...
It's impossible to chase something that has vanished. A resident has every right to walk in his own neighborhood. A resident also has the right to ask a stranger what they are doing in a gated neighborhood. That does not give anyone the right to attack the person who is doing the asking.
thebuzz

Carmel, IN

#58015 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
Whenever the accused has a solid self-defense(SYG)position no judge will deny it and will grant it and declare case closed in that regard.
When defendant has the law, issue, and facts on his side a judge is compelled to recognize it so that an Appeal does not happen making judge look bad on legal matters. No judge wants that. If Zimmerman had the goods the judge would have set him free. He knew he didn't have a complete self-defense claim to go before a judge with, so they chose to present it to a jury who may be more flexible in interpreting the law.
Anyone with a solid self-defense claim based in law wants to have it heard before a judge, a person trained to know the law.
Looks like Zimmerman needs witnesses rather than the potential issue with a biased judge. After all, they arrested him on evidence that has yet to be seen.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#58016 May 1, 2013
thebuzz wrote:
<quoted text>It's impossible to chase something that has vanished. A resident has every right to walk in his own neighborhood. A resident also has the right to ask a stranger what they are doing in a gated neighborhood. That does not give anyone the right to attack the person who is doing the asking.
Funny. I don't recall any of the witnesses calling Zimmerman by name or as the watch captain.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58017 May 1, 2013
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>So What?? It proves that Zimmermen was acting on his own against advice. He obviously is pursuing Martin and by Zimmermen own words Martin is running from him. That makes Zimmerman the aggressor.
According to criminal defense lawyers, you are full of crap. If you are in my neighborhood and I think you are acting suspiciously I have the legal right to follow you. If you decide to initiate a physical confrontation by punching me in the face and breaking my nose and then pound my head on the ground,you are the aggressor and you have committed a forcible felony. If the victim of a forcible felony is in fear of great bodily harm or death, Florida law says deadly force may be used to stop that forcible felony.

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat, and has the right to stand his or her ground, and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself ,herself or another, or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
FS 776.013(3)

Sucker punching a person and Breaking his nose is a forcible felony and the assault on Zimmerman went on for over forty seconds.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58018 May 1, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Confused again? Still? He doesn't have to prove it. The state is investigating and they will prove it.
Guess what? One exception doesn't negate the rule.


"As funky cases go, the prosecution of George Zimmerman is right up there. And while funky may give us something to talk about, it isn’t justice.
A decent legal system would forbid what’s going on in Florida, but then a decent legal system would never have tolerated murder charges against George Zimmerman in the first place."
Wendy Murphy

Wendy Murphy is a leading victims rights advocate and nationally recognized television legal analyst. She is an adjunct professor at New England Law in Boston..

Read more: http://www.patriotledger.com/topstories/x1062... : http://www.patriotledger.com/topstories/x1062...

LOL.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58019 May 1, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Confused again? Still? He doesn't have to prove it. The state is investigating and they will prove it.
Guess what? One exception doesn't negate the rule.
Mar,2008
Surprise,AZ police are conducting an internal investigation to determine if an emergency dispatcher passed on erroneous advice earlier this month to an El Mirage man who found an inactive bazooka round and took it to El Mirage police headquarters.

The man, who found the explosive device while picking up his vehicle at a repair yard, was told by the dispatcher that it probably was not dangerous. He was instead told to call the non-emergency number for the El Mirage Police Department.

The Surprise Police Department took the call because it provides dispatching services for the city of El Mirage.
Sgt. Mark Ortega, a spokesman for the Surprise department, said the call was not handled correctly by the dispatcher. Calling 911 is the correct action to take if a resident finds a weapon or an explosive.
The dispatcher, Ortega said, should have gathered more information from the resident, dispatched an officer to the scene and advised the caller "not to handle or touch or move" the device.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58020 May 1, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Confused again? Still? He doesn't have to prove it. The state is investigating and they will prove it.
Guess what? One exception doesn't negate the rule.
He will probably walk and write a NY Times best seller and then he can upgrade his firearm.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58021 May 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It's over 70 yards to my mailbox from the front door.
I understand, FATTY: 70 yards is too far for you to walk & you'd call a cab.
PS: The boy had every right to be exactly where he was standing when he was confronted by your friend, the pedophile.
Wow, you walk seventy yards to your mailbox which must be difficult when you are senile. By the time you get there you often forget why you went there. Last time I checked I have skied thirty one different ski areas in thirteen different states and can ski any novice slope on one ski. Matter of fact I could run the seventy yards to your mailbox and back before you figure out why you have a Forever stamp on your forehead and why it was postmarked.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#58022 May 1, 2013
Ascendo Tuum wrote:
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And yet you feverishly kiss the azz of GI Janie who

1) Has a prolific history of violence including:

a) 3 resisting arrest and assault and battery charges against law enforcement officers - stayed because GI Janie enrolled in a Pretrial Diversionary program
b) Vicious assault of a FEMALE bar patron resulting in his termination of employment of the club he was bouncing for. Had to take an Alcohol Education program to beat THAT rap.
c) Domestic violence resulting in restraining order issued against him
d) Continuous rape of a minor female - still being investigated.

2) Has a prolific history of lying including:
a) The night GI Jane killed Trayvon Martin he told police that he had a clean record ... heh heh heh! ya... right!
b) When GI Janie was booked into the Seminole County Jail, he told the booking officer that he had never been in a pretrial diversion program before, but he had.
c) When Thug Zimmerman offered an apology to Trayvon's family during an April 20 bond hearing, he said he didn't realize Trayvon was so young. But in his call to police moments before the shooting he described Trayvon, who was 17, as in his "late teens."
d) Both GI Jane and his wife, GI Joe, lied directly to the courts saying they had no savings… when in fact they had $135,000 in blood money donations. Proven when confronted with his taped jail house phone call to his wife instructing her how to "hide" the money.
e) In his initial statement to the police, GI Jane tells police that “Martin” jumped out at him from the bushes. Stuck by that story, until police told him “there were no bushes”. Story changed.
f) In is initial statement to the police, GI Jane tells police that when he and Martin came face to face on that sidewalk, Martin said, "What the (expletive)(is) your problem, homey?" That statement gradually morphed into: You, you got a problem? Trayvon’s girlfriend, who was on the phone with him, heard Trayvon say:“Why are you following me for?”
g) In is statement, GI Jane tells police that when he told 911 dispatch he was losing sight of Trayvon, that 911 dispatch told him to move the car to get a better view. On police review of the 911 tape, no such conversation occurred.
h) When answering the question, why did you get out of your truck. Brainiac GI Jane told police that he was going in the same direction as Trayvon… to get the name of the street he was on. Police, to this day, are still wondering HOW you don’t know the name of the only three streets in his neighbourhood…. where he has lived for 3 YEARS.
i) Injuries sustained in the struggle come no where near the severity of the described attack.(Getting your head banged on the pavement would surely have resulted in skull fracture… bone bruising at the absolute bare minimum.)
j) No defensive wounds on GI Jane hardly indicate a LIFE AND DEATH struggle.
k) Crime scene photos show Martin's body was a significant distance south toward the house where Martin was staying and NOT where Zimmerman claimed during his re-enactment for the police.

3) Has a prolific history of stupidity:
a) A resident, who attended an emergency homeowner's association meeting after the shooting on March 1, told reporters how one man was escorted out because he openly expressed his frustration because he had previously contacted the Sanford Police Department about Zimmerman approaching him and even coming to his home.
b) FORTY-SIX count'em... FORTY-SIX 911 calls in the past to report such horrendous crimes like... kids at a pool making too much noise, a kid pulling a wheelie on his bike, kids playing on the street after school, a neighbour leaving his garage door open!! ROTFALMFAO!
c) Instructs his beauty queen on how to hide money from the courts ON A MONITORED JAIL PHONE!
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58023 May 1, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
Whenever the accused has a solid self-defense(SYG)position no judge will deny it and will grant it and declare case closed in that regard.
When defendant has the law, issue, and facts on his side a judge is compelled to recognize it so that an Appeal does not happen making judge look bad on legal matters. No judge wants that. If Zimmerman had the goods the judge would have set him free. He knew he didn't have a complete self-defense claim to go before a judge with, so they chose to present it to a jury who may be more flexible in interpreting the law.
Anyone with a solid self-defense claim based in law wants to have it heard before a judge, a person trained to know the law.
BS.

"In other words -- at least from a true legal analysis -- the police had no evidence contrary to the case being one of self defense -- and the only open issue was whether Zimmerman used "excessive force" (which would be manslaughter -- not second degree murder)-- and that at the time of the initial investigation (and probably now)-- law enforcement didn't have any evidence that controverted Zimmerman suffering "great bodily harm" (the broken nose)-- nor -- did they have any evidence contrary to his assertion that he was in reasonable fear of further serious injury or death."

Jon H Gutmacher,Esq., Criminal Defense Lawyer and author of
Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership ,Seventh Edition
This is the definitive book on Florida firearms regulations and case law and is used by seven Florida police academies, over eighty law enforcement agencies and every Florida Appellate court including the Florida Supreme Court.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#58024 May 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You have to know the O'mara is billing the pedophile as fast as the $$ are coming in.
Milking the fat cow, so to speak.
He won't have a dime by the time he reaches sentences; and if he has 9 cents left, the Martins will get that.
When he walks and writes his book about shooting the drug selling drug addict, he will retire a millionaire and open Zimmerman Enterprises which will print educational books like 'Lean Can Make You Mean' and 'Shooting Drug Addicts For Dummies'.

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