Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media

Mar 22, 2012 Full story: Wall Street Journal 66,086

Social media has put the spotlight on the story Trayvon Martin , an unarmed African-American teenager who was shot to death last month by a neighborhood watch captain in Florida.

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#57932 Apr 30, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Appare3ntly you don't comprehend what a SYG hearing is.
It is not something a judge denies a defendant. I heard Zimmerthug claim he was waiving that right. What did you hear?
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Yeah, the defense knew they did not have the elements necessary for self-defense and know a judge will see right through the BS in a SYG hearing, so they chose to go before a jury with the hopes of manipulating it to their advantage. Only if you don't have the facts, law, and issue on your side do you want to stay away from a judge deciding your fate.
Ascendo Tuum

Hamilton, Canada

#57933 Apr 30, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Traygone the racist, criminal, women's jewelry stealing thug still rotting in the ground?
What stolen jewellery (note spelling) are you talking about?? According to Sanford police NONE OF THAT JEWELLERY HAS BEEN REPORTED MISSING.... sooo... it can't be stolen jewellery can it?? I mean... if I had jewellery that was stolen... you can be damned sure it would be reported... if for anything... insurance purposes. Naah... that's yet another lie perpetrated by the desperate GI Jane groupies.

As for the racist... well....he'll be doing 25 to life. And before you get your tiny testicles in a knot... yes GI Jane is a racist. He called Trayvon a "fcuking coon" at the 2:21 mark of the 911 call.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Since: Mar 10

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#57934 Apr 30, 2013
thebuzz wrote:
<quoted text>Well then, we can say without any further comment from you that Martin wasn't being followed considering he was shot just a few steps from his doorstep.
If Zimmerthug had not followed him he would not have caught up with him and murdered him.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#57935 Apr 30, 2013
the BIG 0, biden, eric holder and ALL muslim RADICALS sympathaziers

NEED to go!
OUT OF AMERICA!
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COPIED from another poster:

Judge Jeanine to 'mother of jihadis': We don't want you here

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva should not be allowed back on U.S. soil

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2335248124001/judg...

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Since: Mar 10

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#57936 Apr 30, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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Yeah, the defense knew they did not have the elements necessary for self-defense and know a judge will see right through the BS in a SYG hearing, so they chose to go before a jury with the hopes of manipulating it to their advantage. Only if you don't have the facts, law, and issue on your side do you want to stay away from a judge deciding your fate.
Exactly!!!!
Ascendo Tuum

Hamilton, Canada

#57937 Apr 30, 2013
zazz wrote:
Question of the day: Will Zimmerthug's rape and murder convictions be served consecutively or concurrently?
Does it matter?? I don't think GI Janie will survive the "Welcome Wagon" at the Hoosegow Hotel.
Truth

Rome, GA

#57939 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>The recording matters.

It marks the footprint the pedophile made when he was told to not chase the boy any further.
Yet there is no proof he continued after the suggestion.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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#57940 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sure.
He was going to force feed him the bag of Skittles and poor that green tea down his throat and when the pedophile started to choke, he was going to take his wallet.
Because we all know that all black people are waiting to roll whitey.
I'm sure Trayvon enticed Zimmerthug to follow him, stalk him, chase him down, accost him... all because he wanted to roll him. As soon as he saw that fat boy he made the decision.

Oh wait, maybe it was when the fat boy saw the black boy that decisions were made.

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#57941 Apr 30, 2013
zazz wrote:
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He claims Zimmerman called 911, not the police dispatcher. Now, instead of admitting he was wrong, he wants to play word games.
He has been wrong about everything he has posted claiming to be "facts".
when you call 911 you get a police dispatcher. When you call the non emergency number you still get a police dispatcher. You are speaking to a law enforcement representative. Is which number he called really relevant?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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#57942 Apr 30, 2013
Ascendo Tuum wrote:
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Does it matter?? I don't think GI Janie will survive the "Welcome Wagon" at the Hoosegow Hotel.
ROFLMAO. Maybe that's why he's padding himself. He's gained over 100 pounds.
Ascendo Tuum

Hamilton, Canada

#57943 Apr 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Yet there is no proof he continued after the suggestion.
Yes there is.... in his statement.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#57944 Apr 30, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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Yeah, the defense knew they did not have the elements necessary for self-defense and know a judge will see right through the BS in a SYG hearing, so they chose to go before a jury with the hopes of manipulating it to their advantage. Only if you don't have the facts, law, and issue on your side do you want to stay away from a judge deciding your fate.
The fact is a SYG hearing places the burden of proof on the defendant and would reveal the defense's strategy and in a high profile case that has become a political football with racial overtones ,no judge in his/her right mind would let Zimmerman walk even if he/she believed he should. I mean why put your decision under the gun when he/she can defer to a jury? Heck you may not have even finished paying the mortgage on the house the Martin followers may want to burn down if you freed Zimmerman. The defense was well aware of this so they passed on the STG hearing. Brilliant move.
Truth

Rome, GA

#57945 Apr 30, 2013
surrealdreamer wrote:
What the Hell is wrong with some of your people? A kid is killed, someones child, someones brother, someones friend etc. Because he is black that makes it Ok for someone to take his life for no reason other than some wanna be thug cop decided to follow him and ultimatly kill him. Its ok with some of you because he is black?

My heart breaks reading this crap. This is what is wrong with humanity today. People hide behind computer screens spewing hatred.

How many of you conservatives on here posting your hatred for a dead child go to church on Sunday, read your bible and believe that Jesus looks upon you as a good person? The bible is pretty specific about GOD looking upon the heart. You poison yourself with your hatred against a person just because of their color. GOD created them too.

To those of you saying that blacks should go back to Africa, you are forgetting that we brought them here abused them in the most horric ways, they were freed. They are Americans, they go to War for this country, they defend it beside other soldiers regardless of color. They are by all means Americans that defend your right to come on a place like topix and spew hatred about them based on nothing but the color of skin that GOD gave them. Shame on you

While blacks are here legally and American citizens we have the hispanic groups sneaking across our borders breaking the laws of this land. We have mexican drug cartels sneaking across our borders, now those are some barbaric thugs that stop a bus, make the people get off kill them by bashing their heads in with a sledge hammer and throwing them in mass graves. These are their own people same race as them. When they start doing that on our soil will you all be calling them Thugs? Will you hate all them based on what a few do like what is done in this case of an innocent child losing his life for no reason?
This is what happens to dope head thugs without proper raising. They attack people and sometimes get shot by their victims. Tax payers will save millions because his life was shortened.
Truth

Rome, GA

#57946 Apr 30, 2013
zazz wrote:
<quoted text>I see you are pretending I didn't prove you are a liar about the police dispatcher and a lot of your other lies. You just close your eyes and move on, pretending you know what you're talking about.

You've been wrong about everything you've said about this case.
Don't worry Chicagoan because Zazz knows very little about this case and the legal system in general.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#57947 Apr 30, 2013
zazz wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure Trayvon enticed Zimmerthug to follow him, stalk him, chase him down, accost him... all because he wanted to roll him. As soon as he saw that fat boy he made the decision.
Oh wait, maybe it was when the fat boy saw the black boy that decisions were made.
I wonder what Martin did with the blunts those guys got for him at 7-11? Don't you? Maybe he smoked them before he got back to the Retreat which would explain why it took him so long. Maybe he wanted to stash the blunts used for smoking weed near his father's house before he doubled back to sucker punched Zimmerman. We know he didn't have a chance to make the illegal drug Lean because he hadn't mixed the skittles and Arizona Fruit Juice Cocktail with DXM or codeine yet.

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#57948 Apr 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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A police dispatcher is not a law enforcement officer and can merely give advice.
"David makes much of the fact that Zimmerman may have continued to follow Martin despite a dispatcher’s admonition to the contrary. But a citizen engaged in innocent behavior (including investigating a potential crime) is not required to heed a dispatcher’s advice. If Martin had disregarded the direction of a police officer on the scene, that might be different. But no one is required to act on a dispatcher’s direction, even if it would be prudent to do so. Bad judgment is not a crime.....
If I were a cynic, I’d say that an ambitious special prosecutor — exploiting the rabble-rousing of the U.S. attorney general and the racial grievance industry — filed an exceedingly serious charge for which she lacks evidence, second degree murder, in order to bask in the mob’s adulation while pressuring Zimmerman to plead guilty to a lesser charge, manslaughter, on which the special prosecutor runs a high risk of losing if Zimmerman forces a trial. So I’m sure glad I’m not a cynic."
Andrew C. McCarthy III ,
former Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He is most notable for leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others. The defendants were convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and planning a series of attacks against New York City landmarks.
In case you missed it-
"But a citizen engaged in innocent behavior (including investigating a potential crime) is not required to heed a dispatcher’s advice."
So What?? It proves that Zimmermen was acting on his own against advice. He obviously is pursuing Martin and by Zimmermen own words Martin is running from him. That makes Zimmerman the aggressor.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#57949 Apr 30, 2013
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>when you call 911 you get a police dispatcher. When you call the non emergency number you still get a police dispatcher. You are speaking to a law enforcement representative. Is which number he called really relevant?


Irrelevant a police dispatcher can only recommend an action.

"Did Zimmerman approach and confront Trayvon Martin -- or was it the other way around? The fact that Zimmerman followed him for a portion, or all of the situation is legally irrelevant -- whether from a distance, or not.

If Martin actually sucker punched Zimmerman -- was Zimmerman's nose actually broken? If so, Martin committed an aggravated battery -- which is a "forcible felony" -- and had he survived -- he would be the one being charged with a serious felony."

Jon H Gutmacher,Esq., Criminal Defense Lawyer and author of
Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership ,Seventh Edition
This is the definitive book on Florida firearms regulations and case law and is used by seven Florida police academies, over eighty law enforcemrnt agencies and every Florida Appellate court including the Florida Supreme Court.
Truth

Rome, GA

#57950 Apr 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>From the call released by the Sanford Police:

At 2:07 seconds, Zimmerman tells the dispatcher,“He’s running.”

At 2:09, you can hear a car door open and an alarm begins that is undoubtedly the “door open, keys in ignition” warning on Zimmerman’s truck.

At 2:13, you can clearly hear the car door slamming shut, and the alarm stops.

At 2:17, ZimmermanÂ’s voice wobbles and he starts breathing heavily into the phone, indicating that he has started running.

At 2:22, without any prompting other than the aforementioned noises and breathing, the dispatcher asks “Are you following him?” to which Zimmerman responds,“Yeah.”

At 2:26, the dispatcher says,“Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” to which Zimmerman responds,“Okay.”

Zimmerman proceeds to give the dispatcher his name. Then he says,“He ran.”

Zimmerman can still be heard breathing into the phone until about 2:39, at which point the heavy breathing stops entirely, a mere 13 seconds after the dispatcher asked him to stop following. A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.

The difference between someone running while on the phone and not running can be heard quite clearly, and I encourage readers to listen for themselves.

There’s another reason to believe that Zimmerman stopped following Martin: After he gives the dispatcher his personal address, at 3:35, he says,“Oh crap, I don’t want to give that all out. I don’t know where this kid is,” meaning he is worried Martin might hear where he lives. If Zimmerman doesn’t even know where Martin is, would it even be possible for him to still be following Martin at this point? Would it even be possible for him to have continued following Martin after hanging up the phone — a full two minutes after he first got out of his car and a minute and a half after he fully stops breathing heavily — unless Martin came back and revealed himself?

It was a mistake for Zimmerman to leave his car in the first place. But while the audio may not decisively prove that Zimmerman stopped following Martin when the dispatcher asked him to, it is very strong evidence that he did, especially when coupled with his testimony to police the night of the incident. But that isnÂ’t even the point.

The point is this: With no witnesses stating that Zimmerman defied the dispatcherÂ’s wishes and continued following Martin and no evidence to suggest he did, how did the idea that he pursued Martin after the dispatcher told him not to become a universally recognized, undisputed fact?

That it did is a testament to Al Sharpton’s ability to manipulate the media — and the media’s willingness to be manipulated.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/911-call-sh ...
The ignorant followers will dispute all facts and just believe what Ignorant Al says.
Truth

Rome, GA

#57951 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>The only thing the state of Florida has is evidence.

What do they need what they already know, anyway? The pedophile was white and that kid minding his own business on the sidewalk was black.
A dead body is not sufficient evidence. You must not have heard what all the prosecution said they couldn't prove at the hearing. More than enough reasonable doubt. To be acquitted soon.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#57952 Apr 30, 2013
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>So What?? It proves that Zimmermen was acting on his own against advice. He obviously is pursuing Martin and by Zimmermen own words Martin is running from him. That makes Zimmerman the aggressor.
Totally legal and according to Zimmerman, Martin was the aggressor and no one can prove otherwise. There are NO witnesses to who threw the first punch.
Zimmerman only followed him for a short time(totally legal) and stopped running after advised by the dispatcher. He then spent about a minute and a half telling the dispatcher who he was and where he lived and then added since he didn't know where Martin was he hoped Martin didn't hear him giving his address. He then claims he was walking back to his vehicle when Martin confronted him and sucker punched him.Zimmerman had a bloody nose ,lacerations on the back of his head and grass stains on the back of his jacket.Other than the bullet wound Martin had a bruise on his knuckles.The evidence shows Martin was the aggressor.

"Defendant's version of the homicide can not be ignored where there is an absence of other evidence legally sufficient to contradict his explanation. Appellant and deceased were the only witnesses to the homicide and the tenor of appellant's evidence is that she shot in self-defense."
Florida
State ex Rel. Freeman v. Kelly, 86 So.2d 166 (1956)

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