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Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media

There are 66309 comments on the Wall Street Journal story from Mar 22, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media. In it, Wall Street Journal reports that:

Social media has put the spotlight on the story Trayvon Martin , an unarmed African-American teenager who was shot to death last month by a neighborhood watch captain in Florida.

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Ohwell

Carmel, IN

#53345 Mar 7, 2013
Be Truthful Be Free wrote:
I believe a significant part of the case will be when the defense establishes that Martin was going after Georges gun while saying "you are going to die tonight". Martin was unarmed from the start, However the moment Martin attempted to arm himself by taking possession of the deadly weapon "gun"and threatening George while beating him is where the whole story line changes.
Also lets not forget that George had no idea if this suspicious person was armed with a weapon.George even stated to dispatch that Martin had his hands in his waistband while looking at him. So to say that George got out of his vehicle full of rage to follow and CONFRONT a potential armed criminal is absurd.There are no facts other than pure speculation to disprove George..
This is an example of stupidity on George's part and a slow response from police. He sensed Martin was possibly dangerous, you could tell from listening to the 911 call. I doubt Zimmerman expected Martin to be within close proximity to him because if he did, he wouldn't have been attacked in the first place. He would have avoided him until the police arrived. Zimmerman expected the police to investigate and he was doing his duty as a resident and as a block captain. I have no doubt he was going to lead the police around the neighborhood looking for Martin under their protection. This is a case of a guy who isn't the brightest guy but a guy who wanted to do the right thing. He ended up getting ambushed and beaten to the point he had no choice but to defend himself. He was screaming for help and no one came to his aid. Zimmerman probably did put himself in harm's way by walking towards the back gate. He didn't take into account the police may not be there when he needed them. Zimmerman can't be blamed because he wasn't very smart.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53346 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>There's no DNA on the weapon.
Whether Trayvon actually had his hand on the gun may not matter. The crux of the case rests on whether Zimmerman can convince a jury that Trayvon was reaching for the gun. It's doubtful that the DNA match will contribute much to the case.
Ohwell

Carmel, IN

#53347 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Zimmerman said he was afraid when he was in his vechicle. Then gave chase with his weapon when Martin bolted.
Zimmerman wasn't athletic enough to give chase. He was walking and talking on the phone. You could tell by the way he was breathing. He stopped and Martin vanished. You can't follow someone you don't see. He contacted the police to deal with Martin. As Zimmerman was waiting for them to arrive, Z got ambushed by the thug. All the facts point that way although when you have a media with an agenda, a dirty prosecutor with tainted judges who have to manage the political scene....well that's something else.
Ohwell

Carmel, IN

#53348 Mar 7, 2013
Oh and I forgot....when you run and talk on the phone you will hear pauses each time the feet hit the pavement which will then affect the voice. He had a walking voice, not a running voice. I talk on the phone to friends all the time who are jogging just as I talk when I am jogging. There IS a difference.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53349 Mar 7, 2013
The dispatcher asked which way is martin running. George was only trying to give law enforcement a definitive location. When the dispatcher said we don't need you to follow him ,, George complied, which is something he did not have to do. He could have very well continued for a stroll in his own neighborhood.

Being vigilant is not a crime. Being attacked is a crime. And from the photos and witness statements George was clearly the victim on the receiving end of a brutal violent attack, my gosh listen to George screaming for help.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#53350 Mar 7, 2013
Ohwell wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman wasn't athletic enough to give chase. He was walking and talking on the phone. You could tell by the way he was breathing. He stopped and Martin vanished. You can't follow someone you don't see. He contacted the police to deal with Martin. As Zimmerman was waiting for them to arrive, Z got ambushed by the thug. All the facts point that way although when you have a media with an agenda, a dirty prosecutor with tainted judges who have to manage the political scene....well that's something else.
He was already on the phone with police when he was sitting in his vehicle.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53351 Mar 7, 2013
Ohwell wrote:
<quoted text>This is an example of stupidity on George's part and a slow response from police. He sensed Martin was possibly dangerous, you could tell from listening to the 911 call. I doubt Zimmerman expected Martin to be within close proximity to him because if he did, he wouldn't have been attacked in the first place. He would have avoided him until the police arrived. Zimmerman expected the police to investigate and he was doing his duty as a resident and as a block captain. I have no doubt he was going to lead the police around the neighborhood looking for Martin under their protection. This is a case of a guy who isn't the brightest guy but a guy who wanted to do the right thing. He ended up getting ambushed and beaten to the point he had no choice but to defend himself. He was screaming for help and no one came to his aid. Zimmerman probably did put himself in harm's way by walking towards the back gate. He didn't take into account the police may not be there when he needed them. Zimmerman can't be blamed because he wasn't very smart.
i agree. Excellent post.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#53352 Mar 7, 2013
Be Truthful Be Free wrote:
<quoted text>Whether Trayvon actually had his hand on the gun may not matter. The crux of the case rests on whether Zimmerman can convince a jury that Trayvon was reaching for the gun. It's doubtful that the DNA match will contribute much to the case.
It's not even that. It's a matter of what both individuals were thinking.

The DNA issue so far covers blood splatters. So I would think it does matter.

Since: Apr 12

Truth's Door

#53353 Mar 7, 2013
Homo Africanus wrote:
<quoted text>Fairies wear boots. Where's your buddy bareback been these days? He off getting himself some strange enword crack or what?

You two make a lovely couple, because you two are the only posters on here who support the racist Martin. Altogether I figure you guys have about 6 or 7 alternates.

Just a couple of black fags spewing toxic racial rhetoric against anyone who tries to have an honest discussion about race on here.

GFY!
Oh Buffalo, Oh Buffalo...

You are back at full strength. I wrote a post earlier about me being confused with being others. Read it, Fool.

It's ok, though. You know the Truth. You just use confusing my identity as an escape mechanism. You, and others, use it to deflect.

It is really funny how you guys talk about being "on topic" yet it is you guys who are fixated on who I am, on being "off topic."

That is REALLY funny and I'm enjoying EVERY moment of it.

I will tell you AGAIN, just as I've told you numerous times on this very thread...

I have ABSOLUTELY NO intention of having a serious discussion with you on this topic. You will only be used as my foil, you utter Fool.

Your many, many, many racist, hate-filled, profanity-laced posts had led me to that.

You are PURE FILTH. You are a sorry excuse for a human being. You are a waste of semen.

Now go put yourself in a gymnastic routine that will allow you to be even more vulgar, you Idiot.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53354 Mar 7, 2013
Ohwell wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman wasn't athletic enough to give chase. He was walking and talking on the phone. You could tell by the way he was breathing. He stopped and Martin vanished. You can't follow someone you don't see. He contacted the police to deal with Martin. As Zimmerman was waiting for them to arrive, Z got ambushed by the thug. All the facts point that way although when you have a media with an agenda, a dirty prosecutor with tainted judges who have to manage the political scene....well that's something else.
Excellent point. "You cant follow someone you don't see". And yes the media sure do have an agenda along with the political scene.

Since the 15th century, Lady Justice has often been depicted wearing a blindfold. The blindfold represents objectivity, in that justice is or should be meted out objectively, without fear or favour, regardless of identity, money, power, or weakness; blind justice and impartiality.

Since: Apr 12

Truth's Door

#53355 Mar 7, 2013
Thug Zimmerman = Dumb Criminal
Homo Africanus

Bucharest, Romania

#53356 Mar 7, 2013
Ohwell wrote:
<quoted text>Well that is mean but this person IS annoying as hell. You do realize you will cause this person to distract once again from the topic and focus on the personalities of the posters.
Do you know anything about the minor who was at home during the shooting. Surely, he had to have seen what happened.
It really doesn't matter what you say to this person. Intelligent posts are met with ridicule and sarcasm. I've tried to be nice to them but it just doesn't work, you'll find out. If you scroll back through this thread you will see that these same people have been posting libel against George Zimmerman for almost a year now. Be Truthful be Free originally began posting as Cristo1. He has since had many different aliases. He has no intention of having an honest discussion. They only have one goal and that is to deflect and distract from the facts surrounding this case, and to thwart anybody who gets close to the truth. The more determined you are to have a logical discussion, the more they will throw wrenches into the works.

That being said, it is hard to imagine that the minor child who was waiting for Trayvon to return did not hear or see any of the commotion near his house. This defies all logic and common sense. So unless the kid was suddenly rendered deaf, dumb, and blind, he was surely aware of what was transpiring a few yards from his door.

There is no way Martins supporters can refute this fact. Why didn't the kid identify Trayvons body? Why was he afraid to do so? What did he know? What was Trayvon up to? What was the kid so afraid of? And why did witness #8 act in a similar fashion? Why didn't witness #8 help identify Trayvons body? Why didn't she call police when the phone went dead? Why did she repeatedly lie?

This is typical teenage behavior when kids are trying to hide something.

Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53357 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>It's not even that. It's a matter of what both individuals were thinking.
The DNA issue so far covers blood splatters. So I would think it does matter.
Well we know for a fact what martin was thinking,dont we? Martin was the aggressor and had the upper-hand during a violent confrontation that martin started

I am sure George was thinking oh my God i am going to die tonight. If he even had time to think. I can assume from Georges screams for help that he was in fear for his life.
Stand with Rand

United States

#53358 Mar 7, 2013
news flash wrote:
The only racist are the people that use race as an issue all the time. This is only news because of the racist that made it news. We all know if the kid was white no one would care. Of course the parents wouldn't be crying racism then either, it would be a death and a trial and then a verdict, based on if it was a crime or not. Not a big blow out over the race of the kid.
I can agree with what you say.
Those who support Obama are the most racist people I have ever witnessed in my life time.
Whenever a person disagrees with them or their dictatorial master they scream racism and then try to destroy that persons reputation, career, business.
They are the most nasty, vindictive people. They have done much damage to race relations in the USA.
Homo Africanus

Germany

#53359 Mar 7, 2013
Ohwell wrote:
<quoted text>Well that is mean but this person IS annoying as hell. You do realize you will cause this person to distract once again from the topic and focus on the personalities of the posters.
Do you know anything about the minor who was at home during the shooting. Surely, he had to have seen what happened.
It really doesn't matter what you say to this person. Intelligent posts are met with ridicule and sarcasm. I've tried to be nice to them but it just doesn't work, you'll find out. If you scroll back through this thread you will see that these same people have been posting libel against George Zimmerman for almost a year now. Be Truthful be Free originally began posting as Cristo1. He has since had many different aliases. He has no intention of having an honest discussion. They only have one goal and that is to deflect and distract from the facts surrounding this case, and to thwart anybody who gets close to the truth. The more determined you are to have a logical discussion, the more they will throw wrenches into the works.

That being said, it is hard to imagine that the minor child who was waiting for Trayvon to return did not hear or see any of the commotion near his house. This defies all logic and common sense. So unless the kid was suddenly rendered deaf, dumb, and blind, he was surely aware of what was transpiring a few yards from his door.

There is no way Martins supporters can refute this fact. Why didn't the kid identify Trayvons body? Why was he afraid to do so? What did he know? What was Trayvon up to? What was the kid so afraid of? And why did witness #8 act in a similar fashion? Why didn't witness #8 help identify Trayvons body? Why didn't she call police when the phone went dead? Why did she repeatedly lie?

This is typical teenage behavior when kids are trying to hide something.

Ohwell

Carmel, IN

#53360 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>He was already on the phone with police when he was sitting in his vehicle.
Your point? You could hear him walking outside which was why the operator asked if he was following. Zimmerman stopped and Martin vanished while Zimmerman was on the phone. There is nothing more to it. He wasn't following, hunting or stalking.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53361 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>It's not even that. It's a matter of what both individuals were thinking.
The DNA issue so far covers blood splatters. So I would think it does matter.
Yes we know martin was on top of George beating the living crap out of him while threatening to kill him. When martin finally went for Georges weapon that's when George had no choice put to pull out the gun and shoot.

Yes the dna blood splatters to benefit Georges self defense case
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#53363 Mar 7, 2013
Be Truthful Be Free wrote:
<quoted text> Excellent point. "You cant follow someone you don't see". And yes the media sure do have an agenda along with the political scene.
Since the 15th century, Lady Justice has often been depicted wearing a blindfold. The blindfold represents objectivity, in that justice is or should be meted out objectively, without fear or favour, regardless of identity, money, power, or weakness; blind justice and impartiality.
In that case, you're saying Martin was hunted.
Be Truthful Be Free

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#53364 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>It's not even that. It's a matter of what both individuals were thinking.
The DNA issue so far covers blood splatters. So I would think it does matter.
The crux of the case rests on whether Zimmerman can convince a jury that Trayvon was reaching for the gun. It's doubtful that the DNA match will contribute much to the case.
Ohwell

Carmel, IN

#53365 Mar 7, 2013
Homo Africanus wrote:
<quoted text>
It really doesn't matter what you say to this person. Intelligent posts are met with ridicule and sarcasm. I've tried to be nice to them but it just doesn't work, you'll find out. If you scroll back through this thread you will see that these same people have been posting libel against George Zimmerman for almost a year now. Be Truthful be Free originally began posting as Cristo1. He has since had many different aliases. He has no intention of having an honest discussion. They only have one goal and that is to deflect and distract from the facts surrounding this case, and to thwart anybody who gets close to the truth. The more determined you are to have a logical discussion, the more they will throw wrenches into the works.
That being said, it is hard to imagine that the minor child who was waiting for Trayvon to return did not hear or see any of the commotion near his house. This defies all logic and common sense. So unless the kid was suddenly rendered deaf, dumb, and blind, he was surely aware of what was transpiring a few yards from his door.
There is no way Martins supporters can refute this fact. Why didn't the kid identify Trayvons body? Why was he afraid to do so? What did he know? What was Trayvon up to? What was the kid so afraid of? And why did witness #8 act in a similar fashion? Why didn't witness #8 help identify Trayvons body? Why didn't she call police when the phone went dead? Why did she repeatedly lie?
This is typical teenage behavior when kids are trying to hide something.
I remember hearing something one one of the 911 calls when a mom called and her teen son was watching and wanted to go outside. She kept yelling at him to come back inside. What if that was the minor and his mommy? Maybe daddy dearest was out on a drug deal or a robbery? Or maybe he was at home trying to figure out what to do since he was the one who was suppose to supervise his out of control son. Maybe daddy dearest was afraid of what his X would think so he made up a story to protect his sorry ass. Maybe Daddy sent his son out to make a drug deal. There are so many theories but one thing is for sure...something doesn't smell right with the dad and this minor. They BOTH had to know it was Trayvon that was killed.

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