Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media

[zazz]

xxxrayted wrote:

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Totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter what took place before the shooting. What matters is what led to the shooting in the first place, and it wasn't because Zim chased Martin for less than ten seconds.
As witness "John" stated, he seen Martin on top of Zim beating the hell out of him. He ran home to call cops, and that's when he "heard" the gunshot and took note of Martin on the ground. He didn't see the gunshot nor who attacked who.
The rest has to be concluded by the jury based on evidence and police interviews of the witnesses. That's what I mean by empirical evidence vs assumptions. The judge or jury has to examine the undisputed evidence and make a decision from there.

Your first paragraph is almost correct.

The fact that Zimmerman chased Trayvon at all will be a turning point in the trial.

[zazz]

Yeah wrote:

<quoted text>lol! Here's what you stated son....
"Zim called 911 to report a suspicious male not familiar to him..."
At this point, Martin was already fleeing from Zimmerman. You might say it was previous to the event. But you're also claiming it's part of the event, while leaving out important details at the same time.
You need to pick your battles instead of being selective of the "fight" son. That's out of your control. You can't have it both ways.
As for your explanation, I'd still like to see your source. Clearly, since you're selective of facts.....

She doesn't quite comprehend the "selective" word. Not yet.

[zazz]

Yeah wrote:

<quoted text>I don't know. It's your claim.
As for the events, Zimmerman stalked Martin with a loaded weapon.
As for your proclaimed "attacked," we already know Zimmerman shot and killed Martin. Again, that's not in question.
And trust me, they are not "separate" as you claim.

Indeed they are not. Corey will prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

[zazz]

xxxrayted wrote:

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And what source do you speak of? What selective facts? Facts are facts, they are not selective. Only assumptions and speculations are selective. Details are either selective or facts.
There are two events that took place that night that are in question: one is Zim running after Martin AFTER Martin took off first. Zimmerman did not chase him. The other event was separate; the attack that took place that led to the shooting.

Don't forget Zimmerman made sure he disconnected from LE before he chased Trayvon down.

And shot him to death.

He couldn't pass his criminal justice classes but he must have learned a little bit.

[Be Truthful Be Free]

zazz wrote:

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God Bless our President

[Be Truthful Be Free]

zazz wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, chased after him with a loaded weapon. With one thing in mind.

Corey knows this and will prove it in court.

AMEN!!!

[Be Truthful Be Free]

xxxrayted wrote:

<quoted text>Here are the undisputed facts:

Zim called 911 to report a suspicious male not familiar to him

After the attack, witnesses told police it was Martin on top of Zimmerman who was screaming for help.

Autopsy reports show no evidence of physical altercations on Martins' body outside of the bullet wound.

Paramedic reports show that they treated a wound in the back of Zim's head, a broken nose and both eyes.

Martin's doctor confirmed those wounds.

Self-defense is described as protecting yourself from an attacker--not beating your attacker after he was unable to further attack. Beating your supposed attacker the way Martin did was beyond self-defense. It was physical assault.

There are absolutely no witnesses that can state they seen Zim attack Martin.

Now. The rest of the story has to be nurtured from the facts presented above. It's all here-say from that point. There were only two witnesses that can say what actually happened behind the houses during the attack, and one of those witnesses is dead.

It's apparent who suffered the most physical injuries before the gunshot. It's documented. It's proof. There is no possible way for a prosecutor to convince a jury that the event took place in reverse of the undisputed evidence. Again, in our country, a person charged with a crime is innocent unless a prosecutor can provide real evidence (not assumptions) that the person charged with the crime is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your timetable is wholly and indisputably insufficient and lacking in key "undisputed facts".

You went from Thug Zimmerman "called 911" and straight to "After the attack".

HA

Don't you think you missed a few Facts? C'mon man, if you gonna put together a timetable of "undisputed facts," at least you can be more precise.

Tell ya what...

I'm gonna give your imprecise self another chance. Rewrite that mess and next time also remember that "undisputed facts" do NOT include your opinions.

While you're poring over the facts in the boatload of evidence, let us know what doc Lindzee has to say about the Thug's head injuries. I'm only interested in two key words in her report of his day-after examination that are, indeed, FACTS.

Let us know about how the Thug misled the court and silently sat by while his wifey flat-out LIED to the judge. That goes to his credibility.

Now, that ought to be enough to get you started on your rewrite. Feel free to consult me if you run into any problems. I'll set you straight.

But you already know that.

If you don't, you should.

[zazz]

Here Is One wrote:

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Yea says Zim is guilty with ZERO evidence………..LOL
Post 47036 here……http://www.topix.com/for um/us/politics/TKPEED6J6ONM651 R6/p1975
Here Is One wrote:
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Only in your dreams..........
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Prove that Zim attacked the perp.....
The 911 tape supports the fact Zim had a right to follow the perp.........215 suspect.......so the act of following the perp is not going to be a issue for the jury.....
For a conviction you will need to convince a jury that a big, strong, scary looking, drug using, foul mouthed foot ball playing tough guy did not attack Zim..........
But Zim attacked some skinny puny little boy..........But this boy was able to toss Zim on his back withe a single blow to Zims nose that broke it and blackened both eyes and then Zims head bounced on the ground at least three times
Then the poor kid fell down on his knees.......A inch from the gun.....
Then the evil monster security meanie killed the poor boy in cold blooded murder..........
Even a all black jury would be tough on believing that whopper
Unless you have something that proves another reality??
Zimmerman killed him with his loaded weapon. I'd say that's about as clear a definition as one can get.
yea wrote.
We all know Zimmerman left his vehicle with a loaded weapon and specifically stalked Martin. After all, there was no one else there.

Not only that, but he left his vehicle against NW rules, against LE monthly instructions and against the dispatcher saying "we don't need you to do that".

The jury will have no problem discerning his motive.

[do unto others]

Be Truthful, Zazz, and Yeah: I was reading a blog from a while ago, and someone brought up a good point. I'm interested in your all's insights...While Robert Zimmerman was defending Zimmerman, and retelling what Zimmerman told him (quotes and all), Robert never once mentioned Martin going for the gun. He said Martin saw the gun, and that's when he threatened Zimmerman's life, but he never said Zimmerman told him Martin reached for the gun.

[zazz]

Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! I already have son. But since it your mind, you lie doesn't count, well, there's not much I can do!
Tell you what, in the previous post you claimed I said Zimmy's is guilt. Post the entry number so we can all see what you're talking about.
Remember son. You're claiming I said he's guilty. I'm going out on a limb here just for you and say it's murder since that's what we're talking about. You have this penchant for changing the subject when you're caught in your trap so I just want to be clear.
Until then, I believe we can call you a LIAR, right?

Here Is One wrote:

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Are you asking me to post a link where you said Zim is going to jail???
Just let me know..........Happy to help out..........LOL

You poor mentally deficient creature. She is asking you to point to a post where she said he is guilty. You can't do that so you attempt to divert attention elsewhere.

Mentally deficient. Not your fault. Genes.

[Mike]

WHATS A TRAYVON?????

[Be Truthful Be Free]

xxxrayted wrote:

<quoted text>And what source do you speak of? What selective facts? Facts are facts, they are not selective. Only assumptions and speculations are selective. Details are either selective or facts.

There are two events that took place that night that are in question: one is Zim running after Martin AFTER Martin took off first. Zimmerman did not chase him. The other event was separate; the attack that took place that led to the shooting.

It's all one event that ended with Thug Zimmerman killing the innocent child.

If you want to talk about a separate event, there's always the police investigation.

OR

Thug Zimmerman being charged with murder.

OR

Thug Zimmerman's first bail hearing...the one in which, well, you know...that thing him and wifey did, trying to pull one over on the judge.

OR

Thug Zimmerman raising blood money.

OR

The Hannity/ThugZimmerman/O'Mara Entertainment-Fundraising Hour

OR

The Thug being in hiding.

Take your pick. There's separate events all over the place.

BUT...one thing is sure...It was one event in which Thug Zimmerman killed child Trayvon. Many moving parts, but it was ONE event.

[R-12 Freon]

Be Truthful Be Free wrote:

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Since you like reading, why don't you also learn to comprehend?
Zazz has already told us what color she is.
Keep up.

I comprehend just fine. I've only been here less than a week.
Color is irrelevant to me I classify people more by intellegence and depth than color. I've read a few of your posts too.

Why You so racist against whites????

[Be Truthful Be Free]

zazz wrote:

<quoted text>Don't forget Zimmerman made sure he disconnected from LE before he chased Trayvon down.

And shot him to death.

He couldn't pass his criminal justice classes but he must have learned a little bit.

Yes, he learned a little.

But he forgot...

If you're not a cop, that BLUE LINE is mighty thick.

That's Criminal Justice 101.

No wonder he couldn't make it!

[R-12 Freon]

zazz wrote:

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Don't forget Zimmerman made sure he disconnected from LE before he chased Trayvon down.
And shot him to death.
He couldn't pass his criminal justice classes but he must have learned a little bit.

Guess that answers your question about getting zims daddy's help, eh. If he could get him out of legal trouble, surely he could use his judicial influence to make sure he passed a criminal justice class.

I'm sure most instructors would jump at the chance to do a judge a favor like that.

[Be Truthful Be Free]

do unto others wrote:

Be Truthful, Zazz, and Yeah: I was reading a blog from a while ago, and someone brought up a good point. I'm interested in your all's insights...While Robert Zimmerman was defending Zimmerman, and retelling what Zimmerman told him (quotes and all), Robert never once mentioned Martin going for the gun. He said Martin saw the gun, and that's when he threatened Zimmerman's life, but he never said Zimmerman told him Martin reached for the gun.

That's interesting.

I'll look into that a bit more. If that's the case, that's damning to Thug Zimmerman's defense.

It may be one of the hurdles that "pro bono" O'Mara is having problems with, thus the continuances.

O'Mara is known to plead his clients. Maybe that's in the works too.

[zazz]

Mike wrote:

WHATS A TRAYVON?????

A murdered child. What9978 are you? How would you feel if your child was murdered?

[R-12 Freon]

Be Truthful Be Free wrote:

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God Bless our President

You must not have gotten your 1st 2013 paycheck yet have you?
Maybe you don't get a paycheck? But don't worry it won't be long until you see price increases at everything you look at.

It's what happens when those who sell merchandise to us and provide services for us. When either the economy goes down or their cost of business goes up,so do the prices.

Doesn't matter if your a Billionaire republican or a democrat getting a welfare check. It's a hell of a lot more than a hit on an income tax return ya know.

[Yeah]

do unto others wrote:

Be Truthful, Zazz, and Yeah: I was reading a blog from a while ago, and someone brought up a good point. I'm interested in your all's insights...While Robert Zimmerman was defending Zimmerman, and retelling what Zimmerman told him (quotes and all), Robert never once mentioned Martin going for the gun. He said Martin saw the gun, and that's when he threatened Zimmerman's life, but he never said Zimmerman told him Martin reached for the gun.

Zimmerman should have stayed in his vehicle and not left with a loaded weapon to stalk Martin.

Especially since he claimed he was "scared."

[R-12 Freon]

Be Truthful Be Free wrote:

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Yes, he learned a little.
But he forgot...
If you're not a cop, that BLUE LINE is mighty thick.
That's Criminal Justice 101.
No wonder he couldn't make it!

Do you really believe that?

I learned alot of years ago if you show respect and courtesy to a cop they return it. If you come off like an asshole you gunna get thumped.

I just happen to know that from first hand experience. Some people though have to keep getting hit over and over with a 2x4 until it sinks in and some it never does.

It's what makes Cops on t.v. so entertaining, haa haa