When It Comes To Guns, How Young Is Too Young?

May 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: National Public Radio

The shooting death of a 2-year-old girl in Kentucky at the hands of her 5-year-old brother has opened up yet another debate about gun control.

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The only debate we need to have is why children so young had access to firearms. I have not read the story, but my assumption is that the parents are morons.

I'll now read the story.
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The only debate we need to have is why children so young had access to firearms. I have not read the story, but my assumption is that the parents are morons.
I'll now read the story.
gun nuts who bought a 5 year-old a working gun designed for kid. Parents, manufacturer, salesman and gun violence enablers should be locked up.

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I took my daughter shooting when she was three years old. Bought a watermelon about the size of her head. Then shot it with a .357 magnum. Then asked her if she wanted to play with guns. She looked up at me and said; "No, daddy!"

Point being, it took away the curiosity. And it taught her respect for what a firearm could do. Which is exactly what our forebears used to do with their children. Notice how there were NO "mass shootings" back then?
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I took my daughter shooting when she was three years old. Bought a watermelon about the size of her head. Then shot it with a .357 magnum. Then asked her if she wanted to play with guns. She looked up at me and said; "No, daddy!"
Point being, it took away the curiosity. And it taught her respect for what a firearm could do. Which is exactly what our forebears used to do with their children. Notice how there were NO "mass shootings" back then?
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Jim Jones and the democratic party

The move of Peoples Temple headquarters to San Francisco in 1975 invigorated Jones' political career. After the Temple served an important role in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[43]

Unlike most other figures deemed as cult leaders, Jones was able to gain public support and contact with prominent local and national United States politicians. For example, Jones and Moscone met privately with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane days before the 1976 election and Mondale publicly praised the Temple.[44][45] First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions, corresponded with him about Cuba, and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco DEMOCRATIC Party Headquarters where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter.[44][46][47]

In September 1977, Willie Brown served as master of ceremonies at a large testimonial dinner for Jones attended by Governor Jerry Brown and Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally and other political figures.[48] At that dinner, while introducing Jones, Willie Brown stated "Let me present to you what you should see every day when you look in the mirror in the early morning hours.... Let me present to you a combination of Martin King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein... Chairman Mao."[49] Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[50] wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: "Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave."[51][52]

In his San Francisco Temple apartment, Jones hosted San Francisco radical political figures such as Angela Davis for discussions.[53] He spoke with friend and San Francisco Sun-Reporter publisher Dr. Carlton Goodlett about Jones' remorse regarding not being able to travel to socialist countries such as People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union, speculating that he could be Chief Dairyman of the Soviet Union.[54] After his criticisms caused increased tensions with the Nation of Islam, Jones spoke at a huge rally healing the rift between the two groups in the Los Angeles Convention Center attended by many of Jones' closest political acquaintances.[55]

While Jones forged media alliances with key columnists and others at the San Francisco Chronicle and other media outlets,[56] the move to San Francisco also brought increasing media scrutiny. After Chronicle reporter Marshall Kilduff encountered resistance to publishing an exposé, he brought his story to New West Magazine.[57]...
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You are a sick-O to give a 5 year old a dam junk gun

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You are a sick-O to give a 5 year old a dam junk gun
EVERY creature has the right of self-defense:

"Sir, may not human institutions, made by the best wisdom of man for human preservation, receive the light of illustration from institutions established for the same beneficent purpose, by the ordinances of the Diety himself? "The Judge of all the earth" has expounded the laws of the Eternal, so that his prohibition against "shedding man's blood" does aid, not abrogate, his own paramount law of self-preservation, but, in effect, place a weapon in each man's hands to shed that blood in his own defence. Who, then, will, or can deny, to a whole people, united and embodied in the persons of their representatives, under that great institution, their political law--that constitution which makes them a nation, and forms their representatives into a sovereignty--who, I say, dares deny to that sovereignty the same rights of self-defence which appertain, not only to every individual of that nation, but also to every animated being throughout the universe!..."

"[Pages 2971-72]... France has drenched the streets of her own beloved Paris in blood, to secure "freedom of the press." The type, sir, the type must pioneer the sword in the march of freedom. The voice of eloquence may startle the oppressed from his slumber of ages--it may shake the tyrant on his throne of a hundred descents, if they may be found within the compass of its mighty volume; but the more efficient powers of the press may spread out the printed roll of human rights before every human eye. Dare we, sir, dare we snatch that printed roll from the hand of the American people; and that, too, when it is fraught with our own doings touching their own concernments, entrusted by them in our management, but to their use and for their benefit?

"Sir, I do not recollect any thing material, said by the learned advocate, which now remains unanswered: for I pass over, as utterly unworthy of any reply, the allegation that the deed of daring done by the respondent was done by him because a certain letter was not answered by the gentleman from Ohio; not because words were spoken, or because words were printed, but because words were not written; not for a wrong done, but for not doing a wrong. Equally unworthy of notice is the poor evasion which labored to censure the gentleman from Ohio for carrying arms to secure his own personal safety. The bravo--the ruffian--may fill his belt with pistols, and his bosom with dirk-knives, and threaten violence to peaceable citizens, and do all this with perfect impunity; but if such citizens take to themselves weapons for purposes of self-defence--the only lawful cause for which men may ever wear such weapons--they are, as it is said, guilty of provoking aggression, and justly liable to punishment for any violation of the public peace, committed by any assault made on their own person."--Mr. Trisam Burges, Representative of Rhode Island, May 11, 1832.[Debates in Congress. Part III. of Vol. VIII. Register of Debates in Congress, Comprising The Leading Debates And Incidents Of The First Sssion of the Twenty-Second Congree: Together With An Appendix, Containing Important State Papers and Public Documents, and the Laws Enacted During The Session; With a Copius Index to the whole. Volume VIII. Washington: Printed and Published by Gales & Seaton. 1838.]
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Printed and Published by Gales & Seaton. 1838.
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I took my daughter shooting when she was three years old.
BTW: You are a liar, GayDavy.

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How young is too young? Well it kind of depends on what you mean I think, I was going out with my dad and uncle when they would go target shooting and hunting when I was 8 but that was mostly for the time spent with my new stepdad (mom remarried when I was 7) but I didn't start shooting until I was almost 10, a little single shot 22 rifle which dad would load for me, then hand to me and stand there while I learned how to aim and fire. When I was 12 I got my own bold action 22 rifle, and for that Christmas a little .410 shotgun, an H&R single shot, and that year I went bird hunting with him carrying that little scattergun and my first hunting license. So I would say the right age depends on the kid but not when they're too young to be strong enough and grasp the concept of a firearm is and what it does!

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"The amendment of the constitution of the United States, cited, secures "the right of the people to keep and bear arms;" nor will the constitution of the United States, or the rights of the States, or of the people, be infringed, and I am very confident not endangered, if the concurrent authority of the National Government is exercised to provide arms, establish magazines, &c. and to arm indeed the great body of the militia of the United States."

- Joseph Bloomfield, Dec. 29, 1809 letter to Colonel B. Tallmadge.[American State Papers. Class V. Military Affairs. Volume 1. DOCUMENTS LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE OF THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES FROM THE FIRST SESSION OF THE FIRST TO THE SECOND SESSION OF THE FIFTEENTH CONGRESS, INCLUSIVE: COMMENCING MARCH 3, 1789, AND ENDING MARCH 3 1819. SELECTED AND EDITED, UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF CONGRESS. BY WALTER LOWRIE Secretary of the Senate, AND MATTHEW ST, CLAIR CLARKE, Clerk of the House of Representatives. VOLUME WASHINGTON: PUBLISHED BY GALES AND SEATON 1832.](Joseph Bloomfield,(Oct. 18, 1753 – Oct. 3, 1823), was the fourth Governor of New Jersey. He was admitted to the bar in 1775 and began his law practice in Bridgeton, New Jersey. He entered the Continental Army as captain of the 3rd New Jersey Regiment on Feb. 9, 1776. He attained the rank of major on November 28, 1776, and was appointed judge advocate of the northern army. He was wounded at the Battle of Brandywine in September 1777. He resigned from the Continental Army on Oct. 28, 1778, after he was elected clerk of the New Jersey General Assembly. From 1795 to 1800 he served as Mayor of Burlington, New Jersey. At the start of the War of 1812 he was commissioned as a brigadier general in the United States Army on March 13, 1812. He served until June 15, 1815 along the Canadian border).

Imagine that! The People's Right won't be infringed if the National Government provides arms to the militia!

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- Joseph Bloomfield, Dec. 29, 1809
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GAME OVER, traitor-troll:

Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet

A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters’ worst nightmare…more people are buying firearms, while firearm-related homicides and suicides are steadily diminishing. What crackpots came up with these conclusions? One set of statistics was compiled by the U.S. Department of Justice. The other was reported by the Pew Research Center.

According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through 2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.

And where did the bad people who did the shooting get most of their guns? Were those gun show “loopholes” responsible? Nope....
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Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet/
32,000+ dead a year.

Pusspuss.

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<quoted text>32,000+ dead a year.
Pusspuss.
Killed by demonRat supporting, and SUPPORTED, gang-bangers.

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".

"Right to bear Arms.

"The right of self defence is a natural right, which legislation should aid rather than supersede. By some it is thought that in a well-regulated community individuals should be altogether debarred from what is called "taking the law into their own hands," and that they should in every case, look to the public authorities for protection from injury. It is said that social order is best maintained by the enforcement of such a principle. A standing army is upheld, in order to protect the community from foreign aggression; a police force is maintained, in order to protect individuals from private wrong; and it is argued that the agency of these forces supersedes the necessity of individual effort.

"Undoubtedly the maintenance of social order is an object of paramount importance; but social order itself may be purchased at too dear a rate, if it can only be upheld by extinguishing manly virtues in a population. During the middle ages scenes of violence were of much more frequent occurrence than in modern days, and great evil arose from those breaches of social order; but it cannot be denied that the energies of individual character were by these very disorders developed, in a manner almost unknown to the present generation.

"The right to bear arms is one of those fundamental rights upon which the liberties of a free people rests...."

[PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENT; OR, MEDITATIONS IN EXILE. BY WILLIAM SMITH O'BRIEN. WITH NOTES TO THE AMERICAN EDITION. BOSTON: PATRICK DONAHOE, 23 Franklin Street. 1856.]
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It is never too early to educate a child about firearm safety. The basics of never touch a firearm and tell an adult is paramount to thier safety. It does not matter whether you own firearms or not, safety is responsible.

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It is never too early to educate a child about firearm safety. The basics of never touch a firearm and tell an adult is paramount to thier safety. It does not matter whether you own firearms or not, safety is responsible.
As has been pointed out many times: the key to firearm safety in the home is to put it on the adults and not the child.

Children can be told to not do something- don't touch a gun, don't play with matches, stay out of mommy and daddy's bedroom- and parents should understand that this does not work, they are children.

The onus is on the parents, and if parents own a firearm, it should not ever be available to a child ever.

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I was talking about educating about safety. What if your child found a gun outside of your home? Is it not prudent to stress the importance of not touching it?

Of course all firearms should be secure from children. I didn't imply they shouldn't.

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As has been pointed out many times: the key to firearm safety in the home is to put it on the adults and not the child.
Children can be told to not do something- don't touch a gun, don't play with matches, stay out of mommy and daddy's bedroom- and parents should understand that this does not work, they are children.
The onus is on the parents, and if parents own a firearm, it should not ever be available to a child ever.
Locked up.
That is the very FIRST, and ONLY thing, I've EVER agreed with you on.

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