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When Whites Are Slain, Do You Fear Blacks Did It? -- Courant.com

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The two ex-cons stoked the embers of "In Cold Blood" when they allegedly broke into a Cheshire home last month, terrorized, sexually assaulted and ultimately killed three of the four members of the Petit ...

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A new road to travel

Cheshire, CT

#1 Aug 24, 2007
Why don't you, as a black man, champion and live what Martin Luther King, Jr. preached..."to be judged on the content of your character, not the color of your skin"?
Let's take race out of the equation. If you commit a crime that warrants jail time, you should serve it. Doesn't matter color, gender, socioeconomic status. If crime is higher in black neighborhoods, then let's do something about strengthening families, stressing education.
Every life is important. Color is irrelevant. You can strive to become anything in America. Stop putting up old color roadblocks; try traveling down a new road. You, and many others, might like where it takes them.
alberta

San Francisco, CA

#3 Aug 24, 2007
It does not matter what race someone is when they commit a crime...It matters what they did!!!!!!!!!!Please keep this in perspective!
VfV

East Hartford, CT

#4 Aug 24, 2007
A new road to travel wrote:
Why don't you, as a black man, champion and live what Martin Luther King, Jr. preached..."to be judged on the content of your character, not the color of your skin"?
Let's take race out of the equation. If you commit a crime that warrants jail time, you should serve it. Doesn't matter color, gender, socioeconomic status. If crime is higher in black neighborhoods, then let's do something about strengthening families, stressing education.
Every life is important. Color is irrelevant. You can strive to become anything in America. Stop putting up old color roadblocks; try traveling down a new road. You, and many others, might like where it takes them.
A new road to travel - Thank you...that's all this guy does is put up roadblocks as you said. This guy is worse than Rev's Sharpton and the NAACP in that they chime in every couple weeks where Harris spews his racial regressive rhetoric more frequently and in situations and tragedies where race is not a consideration and/or issue.

It is unbelievable how backward thinking this guy is. He's not going to be happy until there is a race war on the streets of the big cities and small towns of CT.

Just as the lines of race begin to fade, there is Harris with his racial diatribes, ready to darken the boundary and reset the racial divide and segregration of "yesterdecade."
True

Norwich, CT

#5 Aug 24, 2007
A new road to travel wrote:
Why don't you, as a black man, champion and live what Martin Luther King, Jr. preached..."to be judged on the content of your character, not the color of your skin"?
Let's take race out of the equation. If you commit a crime that warrants jail time, you should serve it. Doesn't matter color, gender, socioeconomic status. If crime is higher in black neighborhoods, then let's do something about strengthening families, stressing education.
Every life is important. Color is irrelevant. You can strive to become anything in America. Stop putting up old color roadblocks; try traveling down a new road. You, and many others, might like where it takes them.
If you read Frank Harris with any regularity, I think you'll discover that he often, usually, in fact, confronts issues within the black community by addressing those in that very community. And, without fail, from what I've read, he does "judge on the content of your character, not the color of your skin."

I say this as a white male. Why do I bring this up? Because the point of his article is that race is never "out of the equation," and if I didn't clarify my race, I'd be willing to bet that I'd be replied to (not necessarily by you, new road) with comments about how I'm just reinforcing the "typical" interracial arguments.

Back to the article, and Mr. Harris' point though. If you disagree with what he's saying, I ask, did you read the first few comments when the Cheshire home invasion occured? If so, you'll understand that race is never out of the equation in our society, even though it usually doesn't belong as the statistics in the article prove. I can find several comments posted today, from suburbanites, about how unsafe Hartford is. Yet, the large majority of crime in Hartford is black-on-black. The LARGE majority. In fact, I can't remember a single instance of black-(or hispanic-) on-white crime in the recent past.

This is exactly Mr. Harris' point. People from the suburbs hear about too much crime in Hartford, that's true. But if crime is often perpetrated by blacks in Hartford, it rarely crosses the racial line. So now let's stop being afraid of Hartford, and work toward stopping the black-on-black (and all) violence.

New road, I'm not trying to be confrontational, and in fact I completely agree with what you posted. i just think it was misguided if directed at Mr Harris. If you disagree, let's debate it.:)
MsNVB

United States

#6 Aug 24, 2007
True wrote:
<quoted text>
If you read Frank Harris with any regularity, I think you'll discover that he often, usually, in fact, confronts issues within the black community by addressing those in that very community. And, without fail, from what I've read, he does "judge on the content of your character, not the color of your skin."
I say this as a white male. Why do I bring this up? Because the point of his article is that race is never "out of the equation," and if I didn't clarify my race, I'd be willing to bet that I'd be replied to (not necessarily by you, new road) with comments about how I'm just reinforcing the "typical" interracial arguments.
Back to the article, and Mr. Harris' point though. If you disagree with what he's saying, I ask, did you read the first few comments when the Cheshire home invasion occured? If so, you'll understand that race is never out of the equation in our society, even though it usually doesn't belong as the statistics in the article prove. I can find several comments posted today, from suburbanites, about how unsafe Hartford is. Yet, the large majority of crime in Hartford is black-on-black. The LARGE majority. In fact, I can't remember a single instance of black-(or hispanic-) on-white crime in the recent past.
This is exactly Mr. Harris' point. People from the suburbs hear about too much crime in Hartford, that's true. But if crime is often perpetrated by blacks in Hartford, it rarely crosses the racial line. So now let's stop being afraid of Hartford, and work toward stopping the black-on-black (and all) violence.
New road, I'm not trying to be confrontational, and in fact I completely agree with what you posted. i just think it was misguided if directed at Mr Harris. If you disagree, let's debate it.:)
I agree with you and actually yesterday I reading an online article regarding the top ten cities to live and they were explaining that whites view the top cities as those with the fewest blacks. I find that disturbing because the majority of crimes committed against whites are by WHITES. Also, like you stated the majority of crimes committed by blacks are by BLACKS.
Ann

Lemont, IL

#7 Aug 24, 2007
I, for one, would never give it a thought - as to the murder's nationality or color !
Ann

Lemont, IL

#8 Aug 24, 2007
OOOOOOOPS - posted on wrong story!
Interested in Chicago

United States

#9 Aug 24, 2007
Great statistics, but to be more convincing you should show the data for stranger vs. non-stranger crime. In other words, the fact that you are more likely to be victimized in a crime of violence by someone you know means you're more likely to be victimized by someone of the same race. But that's not what scares people when they walk down dark streets. They worry that someone is going to jump out and mug them. My question is, is that mugger more likely to be one's own race?
MsNVB

United States

#10 Aug 24, 2007
Interested in Chicago wrote:
Great statistics, but to be more convincing you should show the data for stranger vs. non-stranger crime. In other words, the fact that you are more likely to be victimized in a crime of violence by someone you know means you're more likely to be victimized by someone of the same race. But that's not what scares people when they walk down dark streets. They worry that someone is going to jump out and mug them. My question is, is that mugger more likely to be one's own race?
I believe many white people NOT all, if they were mugged by a black person in 2006, and then in 2007 was mugged again by a white person the mugging that occured in 2006 would be the one that would scare them the most. The 2006 mugging would be the one that they would base their "fear," or blacks on.
Rayda273

AOL

#11 Aug 24, 2007
For the most part, criminals commit crime in their neighborhoods. Since many of America's "neighborhoods" continue to be racially segregated, Mr. Harris' statistics do not surprise me. His article reflected the statistics. I'm not quite sure why the article is generating hostility toward the messenger.
Robert

Arlington, VA

#12 Aug 24, 2007
"Let's take race out of the equation."

"Every life is important. Color is irrelevant."

I suggest that you tell this to that commie xenophobe named Pat Buchanan...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20070821/cm_uc_crp...

Since: Mar 07

Glastonbury, CT

#14 Aug 25, 2007
This note is to True. You articulate what is actually going on.
Race is usually part of the mix and most whites want to forget that and I don't blame them, it is a horrible legacy. What is really troubling is that whites (in general) think racism does not exist anymore. Has anyone taken a look at our criminal justice system? The words of MLK concerning character are true. However, we have not reached that point which is highlighted in Harris's column. Time after time our society has an opprotunity on a national level to at least get this dialouge going and we fail. Remember OJ, Katrina, and the latest, Imus. Each incident is a little different but afforded us the opprotunity to get a real conversation on race started. We are all guilty when it comes to race and class in this society.
unotsosmart

Bangkok, Thailand

#15 Aug 25, 2007
Blacks 13.1 % of the population involved in 52.3% of violent crimes.Don't twist the facts,they are also overpopulating the prison system.
COUNT WALKER

AOL

#16 Aug 25, 2007
great article,CHARLES STUART,SUSAN SMITH,must i go on? so leave MR.HARRIS alone!
Steve

Hartford, CT

#17 Aug 26, 2007
unotsosmart wrote:
Blacks 13.1 % of the population involved in 52.3% of violent crimes.Don't twist the facts,they are also overpopulating the prison system.
This stat is so bogus!

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#18 Aug 26, 2007
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
This stat is so bogus!
Take into consideration that Blacks get harsher punishments for the same crimes as their white counterparts.

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#19 Aug 26, 2007
True wrote:
<quoted text>
If you read Frank Harris with any regularity, I think you'll discover that he often, usually, in fact, confronts issues within the black community by addressing those in that very community. And, without fail, from what I've read, he does "judge on the content of your character, not the color of your skin."
I say this as a white male. Why do I bring this up? Because the point of his article is that race is never "out of the equation," and if I didn't clarify my race, I'd be willing to bet that I'd be replied to (not necessarily by you, new road) with comments about how I'm just reinforcing the "typical" interracial arguments.
Back to the article, and Mr. Harris' point though. If you disagree with what he's saying, I ask, did you read the first few comments when the Cheshire home invasion occured? If so, you'll understand that race is never out of the equation in our society, even though it usually doesn't belong as the statistics in the article prove. I can find several comments posted today, from suburbanites, about how unsafe Hartford is. Yet, the large majority of crime in Hartford is black-on-black. The LARGE majority. In fact, I can't remember a single instance of black-(or hispanic-) on-white crime in the recent past.
This is exactly Mr. Harris' point. People from the suburbs hear about too much crime in Hartford, that's true. But if crime is often perpetrated by blacks in Hartford, it rarely crosses the racial line. So now let's stop being afraid of Hartford, and work toward stopping the black-on-black (and all) violence.
New road, I'm not trying to be confrontational, and in fact I completely agree with what you posted. i just think it was misguided if directed at Mr Harris. If you disagree, let's debate it.:)
Very well said.
Mary H

Willimantic, CT

#21 Aug 26, 2007
I am a white woman who often has the same reaction as Mr. Harris when a major crime is reported. I personally find the racially based finger pointing and blaming that follows news stories on crime painful and counter-productive.

I have often wondered if American race relations would be different if we never reported race in news stories. I know that is impossible to do, but I wonder if that would make it easier for all of us to focus on behavior and character and not on race.
Phred

Southington, CT

#22 Aug 26, 2007
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
This stat is so bogus!
Liberal Views, Black Victims
By Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Last year, among the nation's 10 largest cities, Philadelphia had the highest murder rate with 406 victims. This year could easily top last year's with 240 murders so far.

Other cities such as Baltimore, Detroit and Washington, D.C., with large black populations, experience the nation's highest rates of murder and violent crime. This high murder rate is, and has been, predominantly a black problem.

According to Bureau of Justice statistics, between 1976 and 2005, blacks, while 13 percent of the population, committed over 52 percent of the nation's homicides and were 46 percent of the homicide victims. Ninety-four percent of black homicide victims had a black person as their murderer.

Blacks are not only the major victims of homicide; blacks suffer high rates of all categories of serious violent crime, and another black is most often the perpetrator.

Liberals and their political allies say the problem is the easy accessibility of guns and greater gun control is the solution. That has to be nonsense. Guns do not commit crimes; people do.

Up through 1979, the FBI reported homicide arrests sorted by racial breakdowns that included Japanese. Between 1976 and 1978, 21 of 48,695 arrests for murder and non-negligent manslaughter were Japanese-Americans. That translates to an annual murder rate of 1 per 100,000 of the Japanese-American population. Would anyone advance the argument that the reason why homicide is virtually nonexistent among Japanese-Americans is because they can't find guns?

The high victimization rate experienced by the overwhelmingly law-abiding black community is mostly the result of predators not having to pay a heavy enough price for their behavior. They benefit from all kinds of asinine excuses, such as poverty, racial discrimination and few employment opportunities.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWil...
Jennifer

Englewood, CO

#23 Aug 26, 2007
Mary H wrote:
I am a white woman who often has the same reaction as Mr. Harris when a major crime is reported. I personally find the racially based finger pointing and blaming that follows news stories on crime painful and counter-productive.
I have often wondered if American race relations would be different if we never reported race in news stories. I know that is impossible to do, but I wonder if that would make it easier for all of us to focus on behavior and character and not on race.
Even if race is not reported in a news story, don't you think when the photo of the suspect is shown, people would figure out what race he or she is?

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