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Wallin-Reed guilty of first-degree murder - Full Story

There are 112 comments on the Feather River Bulletin story from Oct 3, 2013, titled Wallin-Reed guilty of first-degree murder - Full Story. In it, Feather River Bulletin reports that:

On Thursday, Sept. 26, a jury found the 38-year-old Reno man guilty of murder and seven other felonies stemming from a car chase that ended in a hail of bullets from Wallin-Reed's AR-15 assault rifle.Gregory Chad Wallin-Reed will likely spend the rest of his life in prison for the July 2011 shooting death of Rory McGuire.

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Freedom3132

Bowling Green, KY

#41 Oct 28, 2013
First of all if those boys did shoot at Chad then he was well within his rights to do what he did. With that being said if they did not shoot at him then he definitely escalated the situation too far, but he should have never been charged with First Degree. First degree murder is when you intentionally murder someone. If he really wanted them dead then why not finish them off at the car? At most he should have been charged with 2nd degree murder which is the equivalent of two people getting into a heated exchange which ends up with someone dead.
Obviously Chad was not a saint based on some of his statements and lying about his military service, but place your self in his family's shoes. You have a cabin in the woods that is so remote that you have no telephone or cell phone and the nearest law enforcement is miles away. You are literally on your own. Not one night, but two consecutive nights a strange car appears at your house. We are not talking at 7:00 at night but much later in the evening and even the early morning. You haveno idea who isin the car or what their intentions are. This guy even had a sign warning them to stay off his property or else. When I was a kid and we were in the country we knew not to screw with anyone that posted such a sign because they were probably more of the shoot first and ask questions later type.
So my point is these kids are not innocent neither is Chad. Keep in mind none of this would have ever happened had these kids not broken the law in the first place. I will never be a victim in my own home so I can only hope I am never forced into such a situation as Chad was. God Bless all involved.
Sean A

Saint Joseph, MI

#42 Oct 31, 2013
You are a idiot and a Class 5 Moron. He could have stopped at anytime and called the police, but he didnt he chose to kill and the was his choice. So he is getting exactly what he deserves.
Helen wrote:
This just isn't right. Wallin-Reed is getting the same sentence as an armed bank robber. So, when is the DA going to charge the punks in the car with criminal trespass, larceny, terrorism, and moving vehicle violations?
MinMad

Peyton, CO

#43 Oct 31, 2013
Sean A wrote:
You are a idiot and a Class 5 Moron. He could have stopped at anytime and called the police, but he didnt he chose to kill and the was his choice. So he is getting exactly what he deserves.
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I have to agree with you---(even though name calling doesn't always help to change the way some people think) I am amazed how a lot of people on this forum don't understand that at some point---Chad could have called the police. You can't chase someone down and murder them because they stole a light off of your property or because they turned around in your driveway a couple of nights in a row. It's amazing to me that they can even think about condoning Chad's behavior.
abc

Tallahassee, FL

#44 Nov 8, 2013
It wasn't about the light being stolen, it was about the personal safety/ security being taken away. These kids came back repeatedly, and that is an act of vandalism. Chad didn't know what they were thinking about, if it was plain mischief...HOWEVER this mischief caused terror to the family, and he was protecting them, focusing only on one thing...his family's security.
I also think this case was judgmental as it brought into limelight Chad's lies about him being a Ranger. True he wasn't a ranger and he lied however that fact had nothing to do with this circumstance. That lie is what nailed him. Still not fair imo.
MinMad wrote:
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Regardless---You cannot chase someone down and shoot them for any reason. I know what you are trying to say. But, even if those young people came into Chad's house and shot at them with a gun---and then somehow managed to get away from Chad with the same scenario happening---Chad still did not have the right to chase them down and shoot them at a different location. That is vigilante justice and is murder. He would still be charged with murder. These young people stole a light of some kind from his fence post. You cannot kill them for that crime. The criminal justice system is flawed and I understand the frustration with feeling victimized and violated from someone stealing from you. But, you absolutely cannot kill them for that. Not all of the kids in that car stole the light either. It only took one to do that and they all weren't guilty of stealing the light. Chad handled it all wrong because he felt violated. You can only shoot someone if you are in a situation where you could be killed by the other person. Chad was the pursuer. Those young people could have shot him and they would be innocent of murder because he was coming after them. You can't kill someone for stealing. End of story.
abc

Tallahassee, FL

#45 Nov 8, 2013
MinMad wrote:
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I have to agree with you---(even though name calling doesn't always help to change the way some people think) I am amazed how a lot of people on this forum don't understand that at some point---Chad could have called the police. You can't chase someone down and murder them because they stole a light off of your property or because they turned around in your driveway a couple of nights in a row. It's amazing to me that they can even think about condoning Chad's behavior.
How could he have called? Remember there were no signal!
MinMad

Pueblo, CO

#46 Nov 22, 2013
abc wrote:
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How could he have called? Remember there were no signal!
If there was no signal----then he should have driven to the police station and reported this problem instead of being a vigilante.
JHR

Sparks, NV

#47 Nov 25, 2013
This case illustrates the fialure of our justice system. Because of this fai;ure to present any deterrence what-so-ever to those who would prey on others, Wallin_Reed took matters into his own hands.
Rory and his friends are the catalysts that started this sad saga and we can only wonder how things might have turned out had Rory and his THUG-DUDs broken into Reeds home while he and hi Family were there.
Judge Kaufman, what penalties are being exacted of these thugs? Anything?
This story should never have happened but for RORY...so its only fitting that he paid the price. I hope his friends change their ways because the next guy they stalk/prey on might just finish the job and in retrospect, sad and crazy as it sounds, Wallin_Reed should have abandoned the chase or left no wittnesses and this I am afraid is the lesson many will draw from this bogus episode.
I hope Rory's buddies all pay in some way for being a part of this pile....
Kate

Exeter, UK

#49 Jan 22, 2014
I hope with all my heart that this lunatic NEVER gets released he is dangorous and unpredictable not to mention a pathalogical liar, he is a crazy lying bastard and I hope he rots in prison for what he did.
Is this truly what 'a god fairing' Christian man would do? LIES and killing young boys!?
Honestly him and his delusional family should ALL rot in hell for this shit!
YOU ALL DISGUST ME!
AAC

Glenside, PA

#50 Mar 8, 2014
jumo wrote:
You don't get the death penalty for stealing a solar light. It's not right, it's theft, but it is surely NOT terrorism.
Chasing people 8 miles down the road is not 'standing your ground' nor is it protecting your family or property which was left 8 miles away.
He obviously lied about thinking they had a gun, or else he never would have left his vehicle to circle their vehicle.
He took his sweet time to report, and didn't even bother to ask the 911 operator for an ambulance for them.
The jerk belongs in jail.
you are deluded. The second you step onto somones property with bad intent you deserve to be shot.
THISisWHYyoungMe nDIE

Corpus Christi, TX

#51 Mar 8, 2014
So there is gun residue on he hands of some of the men who chose to approach a cabin with a family inside and insight fear and terror and Chad should have done nothing? Vandalism, theft, trespassing, shining a flood light in the home of strangers at night is ok? Casing matching the number of reported shots Chad saw were indeed found. Chad owned no weapons that matched those casings. He also did plant evidence of gunpowder residue on those creeps. I am sure this was hard for everyone but just because you lose a battle does not mean you were not a participant. Those men should be in jail as well. They were lucky that a very expected reaction to their actions did not kill them all. That was a very good life lesson. Don't fluk with people and not expect dire consequences. Because in life, if it is my family or the lives of those terrorizing me, I save my family. And place some blame on the parents who failed to raise decent young me who are respectful of others and their property. They missed that life lesson.
Anonymous

Irving, TX

#52 Mar 8, 2014
So glad those lawyers were able to work on a budget and get this murdering freak behind bars and not make this beautiful part of California look like Waco Texs.
America

Pinellas Park, FL

#53 Mar 8, 2014
Truthie 775 wrote:
Helen, you're as delusional as Mr. Wallin-Reed and his wife. So glad this jury didn't fall for that stand your ground bs defense. He gunned down men because he's a paranoid, pissed off lunatic with a gun. Lying murderer. Loved the talking points the children were given in their tv interview. It went with the theme of daddy's story and what Mrs. Insane Too said...they were terrorized. They claimed to be afraid for their safety at their cabin. So why did they return year after year? Why didn't they build a fence on their property? So stupid young men made a stupid decision to steal a sign and solar lights. That's not a death sentence. Only in Mr. Insane and Mrs. Insane Too's eyes. Justice served for the true victims, especially Rory McGuire. Be rid of these nuts.
You must be liberal.
Jane doe

Mays Landing, NJ

#54 Mar 8, 2014
The men in the cars were thugs that started the whole thing.It is sad one lost his life over their very bad judgement to terrorize and rob from the Wellen-Reed family.
Chad should taken down their plate number and called the police instead of shooting at their car. He could have been the killed by the thugs.
I feel sorry for the parents of the dead guy because in their eyes he was their child ,parents don't see their children as they really are sometimes.
A tragedy all way around.
Rogers

Clawson, MI

#55 Mar 8, 2014
So tell me, why would these innocent young men
Come back for a second night? Why would they read that sign and challenge the property owner, why did they not face criminal charges for what they did? Am I saying they should have been shot, probably not, but 1st degree murder when threatened and provoked? And yes you can be shot for trespassing, these kids were very much in the wrong and pushed the wrong person that night, he is paying for what he did, and I am sure mentally they are too. Very sad for all
Truthie 775 wrote:
Helen, you're as delusional as Mr. Wallin-Reed and his wife. So glad this jury didn't fall for that stand your ground bs defense. He gunned down men because he's a paranoid, pissed off lunatic with a gun. Lying murderer. Loved the talking points the children were given in their tv interview. It went with the theme of daddy's story and what Mrs. Insane Too said...they were terrorized. They claimed to be afraid for their safety at their cabin. So why did they return year after year? Why didn't they build a fence on their property? So stupid young men made a stupid decision to steal a sign and solar lights. That's not a death sentence. Only in Mr. Insane and Mrs. Insane Too's eyes. Justice served for the true victims, especially Rory McGuire. Be rid of these nuts.
jeb

Colorado Springs, CO

#56 Mar 8, 2014
I get kids getting into mischief but to go back a second time was pushing Chad to act. How many times would they have came back to harass the family? Wrong person to mess with if you ask me. Terrible situation.
CHUCK

Penn Valley, CA

#57 Mar 8, 2014
In this country, you cannot chase someone down, OFF YOUR PROPERTY. You must call the authorities. There would be total anarchy if everyone did what Wallin Reed did. I am not condoning the behavior of the boys. They were wrong. However, they did not deserve to be chased down and shot/killed. I know a lot of you believe that trespasser should be shot. I AGREE. But you know you cant do what Chad did. Maybe first degree murder is the wrong charge. I don't know. But I know I cant shoot someone that has left my property. It is no longer self defense in that matter. You can shoot them all day long if they are on your property.
But those of you in Chad's favor, do know what the law is. Don't you?
california2

San Jose, CA

#58 Mar 8, 2014
THANK YOU JURY! That guy is crazy if he has to be in California at least keep him behind bars. His kids have a better chance of being normal without him around.
dhr

Colorado Springs, CO

#59 Mar 8, 2014
On the property. Maybe. Not 8 miles away.

This whole thing is presented through the lens of the media. We must all understand we are deluded because of this. One thing is for certain. The people who went onto that property, twice, contributed mightily to the situation they got themselves in. Morons.

The defendant did himself zero favors by lying. According to what we saw through the media filter, be was equally a moron in too many ways to list. It appears he had no problems lying in his life. Right up to his informing law inforcement on the events shortly after.

Moral of the story. Stay on your property. Don't lie. If those young men participated in lying as too, well, karma has a way of working itself out sooner or later. Definitely did for Wallin-Reed. Lying about his military service, lying about the events, flat out lying while wrapping one's self around god, bible, country... these things can have a way of catching up. Wonder how his wife processes these lies? That sign leading to his property did not help either.

A case of a lot of ill advised people colliding in the universe. The children are gonna have a lot of therapy to look forward to.... either that or oe has a lot of 'sins of the father' to look forward to.

Wonder how the 'best friend' is coping with whatever guilt he should be feeling for repeating the night out... I mean, how *%$#& stupid can you be to go onto someone's property, in a very rural area, twice. The bloke has a lifetime to mull over what part he played in his friend's demise.
AAC wrote:
<quoted text> you are deluded. The second you step onto somones property with bad intent you deserve to be shot.
thomas lewis

Winter Park, FL

#60 Mar 9, 2014
Helen wrote:
This just isn't right. Wallin-Reed is getting the same sentence as an armed bank robber. So, when is the DA going to charge the punks in the car with criminal trespass, larceny, terrorism, and moving vehicle violations?
The actions of these kids,did not warrant a death sentence,he was trying to kill everyone of them.We don't need people like him walking the street.The victims are those boys,the families,the children of Wallin Reed,not Mr. Reed,he belongs in prison.I don't know if his wife could of or tried to stop him when he decided to kill them all.This should of never happened,period,this type of reckless rambo,revenge killing has to stop.If it was your child and he was killed for uprooting a solar light,how would you feel?
Scott Stapp

Gulfport, MS

#61 Mar 9, 2014
Casing the property? Some of you are delusional. They saw a silly sign and decided to screw with the guy. It was very stupid, but they had no prior records to indicate they were involved in any criminal activity. The forensics team found no gunshot residue on the fingers of any of the kids. It's public record. Stop injecting your own politics into the situation.

The fact that Chad never went to police the day after he alleged they terrorized his family and left footprints says a lot. If he was in such imminent danger that he felt the need to use deadly force, why didn't he contact law enforcement the day after the first incident? His unwillingness to contact the police after the first incident is just as stupid as those kids going back to the property a second time.

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