Judge refuses bond for minister charg...

Judge refuses bond for minister charged in triple slaying; more evidence released

There are 17 comments on the Lexington Herald-Leader story from Dec 2, 2013, titled Judge refuses bond for minister charged in triple slaying; more evidence released. In it, Lexington Herald-Leader reports that:

Boyle Circuit Judge Darren Peckler refused Monday to set a bond for minister Kenneth Allen Keith after a detective testified that key money-related items belonging to one of three dead victims were found in the Somerset pawn store that Keith operated.

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Old Man

Lexington, KY

#1 Dec 4, 2013
The hearing was a major victory for the defense. The lawyer for Keith knew that there would be no bond--never is in a death sentence case. It was clearly a fishing expedition to get the detective on the stand and lock in his testimony for trial.
Having been found by a federal judge to being a "good investigator," I think I am qualified to say the detective's work I woefully lacking. He didn't know the answers to too many questions.
The state really has no case against Keith.
Look at the Det.'s testimony. They don't even know for sure what kind of gun(s)were used. Why would a spent shell casing be in the store? Carried there by the police? If the kid knew Keith as "Uncle Allen" why did e not recognize his voice if not his appearance? This is going to be a tough sell for the Commonwealth.
This case is going to be a case of "garbage in--garbage out."
Holidazed

United States

#4 Dec 5, 2013
I pray justice is served for the death of three people and the damage done to the survivors and loved ones. I don't know if the preacher is guilty or not. That will be for the courts to determine. Good luck.
Just us

Corbin, KY

#6 Dec 6, 2013
'Old Man' you must have been in a different court room than I was....the law has evidence on Keith that an "innocent" man shouldn't of had.
Sounded to me like an open/shut case and his attorney knew it and did not ask too many questions, just collecting his money and taking it to the bank. Tick tock, seems to me it's down to death penalty or not.
Can I get an amen!
Pawn

Somerset, KY

#7 Dec 6, 2013
Amen!
FBI

Danville, KY

#8 Dec 6, 2013
Old man how can you explain that Mr Smiths receipt book and money bands where in his shop he knows he's guiltily that's why he slit his neck also, you sound delusional to me. You couldn't find a terd in a sewer pipe

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#9 Dec 6, 2013
I took a good look in that bldg. a while back - Weren't no place to run - Even if a person had the chance -
Old Man

Lexington, KY

#10 Dec 6, 2013
FBI wrote:
Old man how can you explain that Mr Smiths receipt book and money bands where in his shop he knows he's guiltily that's why he slit his neck also, you sound delusional to me. You couldn't find a terd in a sewer pipe
I know the danger of being wrong when little is actually known. All I know is what I have read in the papers or on other news outlets. I was not in court at any of the hearings or procedures.
However, it appears that the police did not locate a gun or guns that match the shell casings located at the scene; are not sure of the cal. of the gun/guns used.
As for the money bands, why would Keith want them? The receipt book, same question, why would he want it? If he did the killings and disposed of gun or guns, why would he kept a shell casing and the money bands and receipt book?
It sounds an awful lot like a perjury, planted evidence case to me.
Look, the police didn't have a clue until they received the call from the mystery Michigan man. Then they had a name but no evidence. A gray van was found to be photographed in the area. Keith happened to own a gray van. They wait two weeks to apply for a search warrant. What did they do during this two week time period?
Then the haters allude to Keith injuring himself. People kill themselves every day for less reasons than being framed for three murders and a robbery.
FBI

Danville, KY

#11 Dec 6, 2013
That's a good u question why would he want a receipt book however the police detective testified in court that the receipt book belonged to smith too much evidence against Keith and the 2 weeks in question sounded like good police work to me you being a star deceive you should know that you make sure of your evidence especially since this was a triple murder before you charge someone.Secondly, 12 members of a grand jury heard the evidence, you can indict a ham sandwich but you dam sure have to have some evidence my crystal ball tells me he will be found guilty he was pretty stupid actually
Real life

Danville, KY

#12 Dec 6, 2013
I have to say Allen Keith has been a good man as long as I known him and I never seen him raise a hand or a voice to anyone. The survalence that has the picture of a grey van was not good because u can't even see the make of the van or a license number, all u see is a grey van. That van could be anybody's and it could even be the person who is reading this. So don't judge no one that's what a court is here to do and I prey that god shows him innocent. Just remember this could be u. Also there was a man that was in the pawn shop that was there all the time and he fits the prescription and he drove a grey van.
Old Man

Lexington, KY

#14 Dec 7, 2013
FBI wrote:
That's a good u question why would he want a receipt book however the police detective testified in court that the receipt book belonged to smith too much evidence against Keith and the 2 weeks in question sounded like good police work to me you being a star deceive you should know that you make sure of your evidence especially since this was a triple murder before you charge someone.Secondly, 12 members of a grand jury heard the evidence, you can indict a ham sandwich but you dam sure have to have some evidence my crystal ball tells me he will be found guilty he was pretty stupid actually
Exactly! You getting hot onto the truth! That receipt book and money bands may be exactly what sinks the Commonwealth's case. Why would Keith want them? I can thank of no good reason. Can you?
The receipt book and money bands were worthless for any reason that I can think of. That makes the theory of planted evidence all the more believable.
I know times have changed and people don't interact like they used to. However, I well remember when I was a kid and went to church and neighbors visited and I could recognize everybody's voice that I knew and knew every vehicle by its sound long before it passed the house. If I were to hear some of those old men's voice on tape today I could still recognize their voices. There is no reason for the kid not to recognize Keith's voice if the killer was him.
I have said for some time that this case was shaping up a lot like the O. J. case. If I had been a member of the jury I would have voted not guilty. Not necessarily because of lack of evidence but because there was too much evidence. I think a lot of it had to be planted--not necessarily by the police but by the guilty party or parties.
There was a guy. I think his name was Pee Wee Gaskins. He became a professional criminal by getting his education at the United States Prison at Atlanta. He was taught to never leave anything at a crime scene and never take anything from it. And as long as he followed this rule, he was never arrested. When he violated it, he was.
Years after he had been put to death, a FBI agent wrote a book and commented on some of Pee Wee's crimes and even the FBI could not and did not ever figure how he did some things.
Outsider

Newburgh, IN

#15 Dec 7, 2013
Just an outsider looking in,but so many seem to question why would he want the receipt books? Hmm,maybe his motive to scout out his next victim/s?
Old Man

Lexington, KY

#17 Dec 7, 2013
Outsider wrote:
Just an outsider looking in,but so many seem to question why would he want the receipt books? Hmm,maybe his motive to scout out his next victim/s?
Well, maybe, but what about the money bands? What purpose could they serve?
Crazy

Danville, KY

#19 Dec 8, 2013
You keep asking why would he want this and that well it takes a very sick person to do what he did and there are alot of stupid criminals out there, that's how most of them get caught !!! And as for them not knowing until the got a phone call with a tip well once again that's all alot of crimes get solved and as far as the little boy look he is a little kid a baby in my eyes and what happen is a terrible thing do u really think at his age and what he witness u would be able to recongnzied someone in a disguise .. I'm sure they little boy was in shock and scared to death to even think about that ... If he didn't do it why try to kill hisself!!
The church peoples money

Hodgenville, KY

#20 Feb 23, 2014
Just us wrote:
'Old Man' you must have been in a different court room than I was....the law has evidence on Keith that an "innocent" man shouldn't of had.
Sounded to me like an open/shut case and his attorney knew it and did not ask too many questions, just collecting his money and taking it to the bank. Tick tock, seems to me it's down to death penalty or not.
Can I get an amen!
The church's money is paying for his defense. Asking people to donate to his defense. I believe the Bible says that your household is cursed if you defend the guilty. How many people have left that church because of this, and how many left after they started passing the alter plate to defend him. Need to worry about the flock. God will take care of Keith because we reap what we sow!
BSS

United States

#21 Feb 23, 2014
Crazy wrote:
You keep asking why would he want this and that well it takes a very sick person to do what he did and there are alot of stupid criminals out there, that's how most of them get caught !!! And as for them not knowing until the got a phone call with a tip well once again that's all alot of crimes get solved and as far as the little boy look he is a little kid a baby in my eyes and what happen is a terrible thing do u really think at his age and what he witness u would be able to recongnzied someone in a disguise .. I'm sure they little boy was in shock and scared to death to even think about that ... If he didn't do it why try to kill hisself!!
I hope justice is found whoever did it but your comment about the kid being in shock and not recognizeing the voice is not holding up. Example I have a 4 yr old grand daughter and I can call for wife. If the grand daughter answers the phone she knows exactly who I am by the sound of my voice. So how does that work ?
too sad

Danville, KY

#22 Mar 7, 2014
I can only imagine what that little bout has been thru. There is enough evidence on keith so weather the child could or could not identify him doesnt matter. He is most definitely traumatized. Keith is most definitely guilty.
debbie burnside ky

Lexington, KY

#23 Apr 9, 2014
i agree way guilty said he was at va drs appointment and the law verified thru va that he didnt show up to his drs appointment! as far as the receipt books and money bands? when u just murdered 3 people you slip up im sure because you would have to be mental in the first place!! hope he gets what he deserves!!

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