The lunacy of Stand Your Ground

The lunacy of Stand Your Ground

There are 465 comments on the Examiner.com story from Feb 21, 2014, titled The lunacy of Stand Your Ground. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

You know you're in Florida lately if there's a Stand Your Ground trial going on somewhere.

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Since: Feb 11

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#481 Mar 6, 2014
Thug wrote:
<quoted text>Ahh yes, back to private property. Like the PRIVATE resort in Florida where Zimmerman had a legal contract to be on the property
He didn't.

He was mooching off his parents as he has done for most of his life and is no doubt still mooching now.

And the property owners already gave the Martin family over a million dollars for their party in the killing.

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#482 Mar 6, 2014
Thug wrote:
In the United States governmental entities including cities, counties, states, and the federal government all manage land which are referred to as either public lands or the public domain.
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west and business owners in the USA can prohibit persons carrying guns from entering their property.

No matter how hard you stomp your feet.

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#483 Mar 6, 2014
Thug wrote:
The Federal Land Policy and Management Act, or FLPMA (Pub.L. 94–579), is a United States federal law that governs the way in which the public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management are managed. The law was enacted in 1976 by the 94th Congress and is found in the United States Code under Title 43.
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY
(415 ILCS 105/) Litter Control Act.

(415 ILCS 105/1)(from Ch. 38, par. 86-1)
Sec. 1.
This Act shall be known and may be cited as the "Litter Control Act".
(Source: P.A. 78-837.)

(415 ILCS 105/2)(from Ch. 38, par. 86-2)
Sec. 2.
The General Assembly finds and determines that:
(i) rapid population growth, the ever increasing mobility of the population and improper and abusive discard habits cause the existence, proliferation and accumulation of litter upon public and private property in this State;
(ii) litter is detrimental to the welfare of the people of this State; and
(iii) while there has been a collective failure by government, industry and the public to develop and accomplish effective litter control, there is a need to educate the public with respect to the problem of litter and to provide for strict enforcement of litter control measures.
This Act is, therefore, necessary to provide for uniform prohibition throughout the State of any and all littering on public or private property so as to protect the health, safety and welfare of the people of this State.
(Source: P.A. 78-837.)

Since: Feb 11

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#484 Mar 6, 2014
Armed Veteran wrote:
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LMAO!!! An arrest EIGHT YEARS PRIOR, and in no way consitutes a pattern.
I guess you forgot he has been in trouble TWICE since the trial.

Pattern.

Remember I offered you to bet he would be in jail within the year and you didn't take me up on it.

Shows you the confidence you have in your own opinion, DongLiqueer.

Since: Feb 11

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#485 Mar 6, 2014
Armed Veteran wrote:
And what was Martin standing his ground from? Being asked the question "What are you doing here?"
If your pedophile hero had approached me in the same circumstances- after following me around in a car- and confronted me on that sidewalk, in the dark, he would have been either on his knees with his hands on the back of his head or lying on his back bleeding out.

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#486 Mar 6, 2014
Armed Veteran wrote:
Prove that Zimmerman EVER tried to stop Martin from reaching his dad's girlfriend's townhouse.
How did the pedophile find himself in front of the Martin boy starting from the time we all heard him get out of the car and told by the cops they didn't want him to follow the boy- who had every right to be exactly where he was at?
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#487 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Can put him in jail.
More likely: fine tens of thousands of dollars and shut down the business.
He can tell his cellmates how no one could force him to make any stinking wedding cake.
Wipe your chin, dear.
"Could, might, maybe". Still can't force him to make a cake.
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#488 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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He didn't.
He was mooching off his parents as he has done for most of his life and is no doubt still mooching now.
And the property owners already gave the Martin family over a million dollars for their party in the killing.
I don't really care who paid the rent, the lease was in Georges name. The property owners in the agreement state this is not an admission of guilt but simply a prudent avoidance of a long legal battle with high legal fees. They also admit NOW that they jumped the gun on this one. They should have waited for a verdict then they could have told the money hungry family to suck blood somewhere else. By the way were is your source of "over a million dollars"? The last I heard on their tax report was much much less than that.
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#489 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The sun rises in the east and sets in the west and business owners in the USA can prohibit persons carrying guns from entering their property.
No matter how hard you stomp your feet.
We have already addressed "private property". We are on the subject of "public property". Why do you keep trying to move the goal post?
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#490 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY
(415 ILCS 105/) Litter Control Act.
(415 ILCS 105/1)(from Ch. 38, par. 86-1)
Sec. 1.
This Act shall be known and may be cited as the "Litter Control Act".
(Source: P.A. 78-837.)
(415 ILCS 105/2)(from Ch. 38, par. 86-2)
Sec. 2.
The General Assembly finds and determines that:
(i) rapid population growth, the ever increasing mobility of the population and improper and abusive discard habits cause the existence, proliferation and accumulation of litter upon public and private property in this State;
(ii) litter is detrimental to the welfare of the people of this State; and
(iii) while there has been a collective failure by government, industry and the public to develop and accomplish effective litter control, there is a need to educate the public with respect to the problem of litter and to provide for strict enforcement of litter control measures.
This Act is, therefore, necessary to provide for uniform prohibition throughout the State of any and all littering on public or private property so as to protect the health, safety and welfare of the people of this State.
(Source: P.A. 78-837.)
What does litter have to do with ownership of public land belonging to the public and me being part of the public? Not only are you trying to move the goal post but your not even on the same subject.
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#491 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did the pedophile find himself in front of the Martin boy starting from the time we all heard him get out of the car and told by the cops they didn't want him to follow the boy- who had every right to be exactly where he was at?
Prove it. Show the law saying he had a "RIGHT" to be on private property. I can show hundreds of court cases in almost every state that says he had "NO RIGHT" to be on private property where he had no legal link. Being a "guest" is a privilege, NOT a right.
In fact George was under no legal obligation to call 911 or even notify the cops before stopping the punk and determining his purpose for being on the property. Not only did George have a right to confront Trayvon but also an obligation as neighborhood watch leader (legally representing) the residents and property owners to determine who and why Trayvon was there.
If you would check your facts, the cops didn't even have a right to come on the property without permission or in pursuit of their legal duties. Even the cops if invited onto the property could be told to leave at anytime if they are not there on legal police activity, just as Trayvons PERMISSION to be there could have been revoked at any time and told to leave.

By the way ,,,,,GEORGE WALKED after putting down this vermin.
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#492 Mar 7, 2014
It was that M-DSPD internal affairs investigation which revealed in October 2011 Trayvon Martin was searched by School Resource Officer, Darryl Dunn. The search of Trayvon Martin’s backpack turned up at least 12 pcs of ladies jewelry, and a man’s watch, in addition to a flat head screwdriver described as “a burglary tool”.

On October 21st 2011 a burglary took place a few blocks from Krop Senior High School where Trayvon Martin attended. The stolen property outlined in the Miami-Dade Police Report (PD111021-422483) matches the descriptive presented by SRO Dunn in his School Police report 2011-11477.

However, there was ONE big issue. SRO Dunn never filed a criminal report, nor opened a criminal investigation, surrounding the stolen jewelry. Instead, and as a result of pressure from M-DSPD Chief Hurley to avoid criminal reports for black male students, Dunn wrote up the jewelry as “found items”, and transferred them, along with the burglary tool, to the Miami-Dade Police property room where they sat on a shelf unassigned to anyone for investigation.

It was only when the M-DSPD Internal Affairs investigation kicked in, and six officers gave sworn affidavits, the manipulative scheme to improve criminal statistics within the School System were identified openly.

School Superintendent Alberto Carvalho gave his hire, Police Chief Hurley, instructions to reduce the criminal behavior of young black males. The chosen strategy between them, to insure optical success, was to stop using the Criminal Justice System to punish black student behavior. Instead they instructed the School Resource Officers to use school discipline in place of criminal justice.

The stolen items were returned after the investigation to the proper owner.
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#493 Mar 7, 2014
One IA reportedly said when first looking at Martin’s data. He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.

The IA interrogators seemed stunned by what they were hearing. They asked one female detective incredulously if she were actually ordered to “falsify reports.” She answered,“Pretty much, yes.”

In Hurley’s defense, school districts across the country had been feeling pressure from the nation’s race hustlers to think twice before disciplining black students. Last year, the White House formalized the pressure with an executive order warning school districts to avoid “methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”
Thug

Tupelo, MS

#494 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If your pedophile hero had approached me in the same circumstances- after following me around in a car- and confronted me on that sidewalk, in the dark, he would have been either on his knees with his hands on the back of his head or lying on his back bleeding out.
YOU are why Trayvon is dead. Those like you kept giving him a free pass on his criminal behavior untill it escalated to the point he attacked an armed victim and was killed committing yet another crime. Had those like you not encouraged him to continue his life of crime he would be alive today.

His blood is on your hands.

As you continue to blur the lines of social behavior to these young black kids more will believe you and will die as a result.

When you respond to this, remember a young black male may read your response and take it as support for their criminal activity and as such end up dead someday. If you really care about these lives then be VERY clear about what you are supporting and the message these young people get from you.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#497 Mar 7, 2014
really wrote:
<quoted text>
wow.. I bet martin even had detention hall...yeah, I see your point ....he deserved to be shot...
(WOW>another graduate of densa college)...
His recent pattern of bad behavior, Facebook posts about getting into and encouraging fights, and admitting to be a "gansta", led to him being shot when he decided to attack a person who had the capability of defending themself. Sucks to be Martin.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#499 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If your pedophile hero had approached me in the same circumstances- after following me around in a car- and confronted me on that sidewalk, in the dark, he would have been either on his knees with his hands on the back of his head or lying on his back bleeding out.
Now PROVE Zimmerman confronted Martin. Jenteal said it was Martin who first spoke to Zimmerman. You have been tasked with that for over two years now, and all we have heard from you in way of proof is crickets. Nothing from you but conjecture and outright LIES.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#500 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did the pedophile find himself in front of the Martin boy starting from the time we all heard him get out of the car and told by the cops they didn't want him to follow the boy- who had every right to be exactly where he was at?
Don't know. Prove that he did put himself in front of him? And Zimmerman had EVERY RIGHT to be there, also. Funny how you always glance over that part.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#501 Mar 7, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If your pedophile hero had approached me in the same circumstances- after following me around in a car- and confronted me on that sidewalk, in the dark, he would have been either on his knees with his hands on the back of his head or lying on his back bleeding out.
So you would have shot him for merely being asked the question of "what are you doing here?" ???? What specific actions by Zimmerman would warrant a deadly response???

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#503 Mar 7, 2014
really wrote:
<quoted text>
your proof that he attacked?....don't forget to wipe...
medical examiner disagrees with your fabricated opinions..
Which person had injuries (other than a single GSW)?

Or are you suggesting that Zimmerman fractured his own nose and caused the cuts on the back of his own head???

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#504 Mar 7, 2014
really wrote:
<quoted text>
how many times do I need to slap you down?
You have yet to do so.
really wrote:
<quoted text>Jeantel said Martin told her the man watching him was a "creepy-ass cracker." She recalled suggesting that the man might be a rapist. She went on to say that Martin told her he was going to try to elude the man, and that the teen left the area but that he was still being followed. Jeantel said she told him to run, but Martin replied that he was close to his father's fiance's house. Shortly after, Martin told Jeantel he would run home and then the phone went dead.
Jenteal also said that Martin first asked Zimmerman, "Why are you following me?" To which Zimmerman replied "What are you doing here?"

Funny how you skipped over that part.

And Martin had somewhere between two and four minutes to cover the remaining 80-100 yards to get to his father's fiance's house. A young athletic football player such as Martin would have NO PROBLEM covering that distance in that amount of time. But he didn't go to her house, did he?? Funny how you leave that part off, too.

The only one getting "slapped down" here is YOU!

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