Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

There are 9862 comments on the Bloomberg story from Mar 20, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10060 Jul 9, 2013
School Superintendent Alberto Carvalho gave his hire, Police Chief Hurley, instructions to reduce the criminal behavior of young black males. The chosen strategy between them, to insure optical success, was to stop using the Criminal Justice System to punish black student behavior. Instead they instructed the School Resource Officers to use school discipline in place of criminal justice. Don't report to police black male student criminal actions.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10061 Jul 9, 2013
Another approach was the use of The Baker Act, to quantify behaviors under health HIPPA law secrecy by assigning the students with psychological problems. This allowed them to again use school discipline and work around criminal reports.

Without the reports, the statistics would improve immensely; And improve they did.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#10063 Jul 9, 2013
Interesting reports, Tray. Can you give us a link?
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10065 Jul 9, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
Interesting reports, Tray. Can you give us a link?
Make sure you read all the links at the bottom of the page as they are statements of officers telling of the orders to cover up criminal behavior of black students.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10068 Jul 9, 2013
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at this, had to change it because topix doesn't want the blacks to be seen as the criminals they are.
http://tinyurl.com/ob24hfn
Yes, several of my links have been deleted.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10071 Jul 9, 2013
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Topix won't allow you to use certain links, most times you see them, you think they are there but only you can see them.
You need to do like I did an cover them.
Do a google search for hiding a link, there are several things you can do.
I used TINY.
Thanks. Good to know.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10072 Jul 9, 2013
Yep, all the links I posted this morning are gone again.
menards

Bordentown, NJ

#10074 Jul 10, 2013
Did Don West goto law school?
Menards

Thorofare, NJ

#10075 Jul 10, 2013
Zimmerman refusing to testify = admission of guilt.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10076 Jul 10, 2013
Menards wrote:
Zimmerman refusing to testify = admission of guilt.
State team does not want phone contents in front of jury. HIDING facts. State refused to turn phone contents over to defense, Aiding and abetting a criminal action, violation of ethics code, violation of law, violation of court order. If they have nothing to hide then why hide it? School records hide from police. school superintendent hiding Trayvons actions. Hiding the facts of a crime and recovered items belonging to the victims of the crime by school police. Aiding and abetting a criminal. Withholding a victims stolen items, continuation of the crime by the school and police. State supporting perjury by putting the Martin family on stand KNOWING they are lying. Several psychologist confirm the body language of the 3 Martin family members show lies. NONE of the Zimmerman witnesses showed the signs if lies. George PASSED voice stress lie detector. George has testified. He gave a full statement to police (which was admitted in court), walked them through the full details at the scene, has a public web site where he has made statements. What else would he say on the stand that has not already been said, voluntarily. The only ones hiding ANYTHING in this case is the family and state. What else are they hiding? Still the state has not proven George broke any laws. By the way the school chief of police was fired for hiding Trayvons crimes in school from the real police and withholding evidence of a crime and withholding property of crime victims.
Jsf

Marianna, FL

#10077 Jul 10, 2013
Menards wrote:
Zimmerman refusing to testify = admission of guilt.
Brilliant observation! Lol

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#10078 Jul 10, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> State team does not want phone contents in front of jury. HIDING facts. State refused to turn phone contents over to defense, Aiding and abetting a criminal action, violation of ethics code, violation of law, violation of court order. If they have nothing to hide then why hide it? School records hide from police. school superintendent hiding Trayvons actions. Hiding the facts of a crime and recovered items belonging to the victims of the crime by school police. Aiding and abetting a criminal. Withholding a victims stolen items, continuation of the crime by the school and police. State supporting perjury by putting the Martin family on stand KNOWING they are lying. Several psychologist confirm the body language of the 3 Martin family members show lies. NONE of the Zimmerman witnesses showed the signs if lies. George PASSED voice stress lie detector. George has testified. He gave a full statement to police (which was admitted in court), walked them through the full details at the scene, has a public web site where he has made statements. What else would he say on the stand that has not already been said, voluntarily. The only ones hiding ANYTHING in this case is the family and state. What else are they hiding? Still the state has not proven George broke any laws. By the way the school chief of police was fired for hiding Trayvons crimes in school from the real police and withholding evidence of a crime and withholding property of crime victims.
Regarding trayvons cell phone and school records....None of which are relevant to the night he was murdered. You have proof the Martin family is lying? The defense would like to talk to you, quick. Several psychologists confirm Martin family body language? You have a link or is that more shit you made up? George would fail under cross, he knows it. His lawyers know it that's why he refuses to take the stand. Don't really care about mdspd cop who was fired....it's irrelevant to this case.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#10079 Jul 10, 2013
Jsf wrote:
<quoted text> Brilliant observation! Lol
It really is that simple.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#10080 Jul 10, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
It really is that simple.
Bullshit. The only reason he would have to take the stand in his own defense is if there was no way he could win the case and was basically throwing himself on the mercy of the court. He has already admitted to shooting Martin. Like the other poster said, he has already testified through the videos that have been presented. He needn't say anything further.

Still trying to figure out where the prosecution has proven 2nd degree murder. Most of their witnesses only bolstered the defense. Oops.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10081 Jul 10, 2013
Jsf wrote:
<quoted text> Brilliant observation! Lol
WOW you just made the entire legal system obsolete. I can't believe you are smarter than the thousands of judges, lawyers and police who enforce our laws. We can fire them all now.(sarcastic remark).
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#10082 Jul 10, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
Regarding trayvons cell phone and school records....None of which are relevant to the night he was murdered. You have proof the Martin family is lying? The defense would like to talk to you, quick. Several psychologists confirm Martin family body language? You have a link or is that more shit you made up? George would fail under cross, he knows it. His lawyers know it that's why he refuses to take the stand. Don't really care about mdspd cop who was fired....it's irrelevant to this case.
George claims self defense so he is accusing Trayvon of assault so yes as a defendant in a crime his recent actions are relevant. Why didn't the state investigate Trayvon as a possible criminal in an assault case? Oh wait they are told not to prosecute young black criminals or even report their crimes to real police. If there is nothing to hide then why not admit the phone records? Aren't you interested in the truth or just want George convicted no matter what the facts? Don't you keep up with the facts? Several TRAINED professionals ALL agree the Martin family lied. George has been GRILLED already and passed even the voice stress test so what are they going to ask on the stand that they haven't already? The cop being fired shows the racism involved in letting Trayvon get away with 3 felonies already and yet here you are wanting him to get away with another and his victims be at fault. His lawyer already has the information but judge (in the pocket) won't let that be heard. The state still has no proof George committed a crime neither do you.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#10084 Jul 11, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. The only reason he would have to take the stand in his own defense is if there was no way he could win the case and was basically throwing himself on the mercy of the court. He has already admitted to shooting Martin. Like the other poster said, he has already testified through the videos that have been presented. He needn't say anything further.
Still trying to figure out where the prosecution has proven 2nd degree murder. Most of their witnesses only bolstered the defense. Oops.
The rub is that he went on Hannity and told the nation his story yet won't sit in front of 6 jurors and tell it, maybe the jury won't consider that, maybe it will.

Very rarely does a person claiming self defense not testify on their own behalf, whether or not the jury knows that is anyone's guess. One juror is said to be married to an attorney and another the mother of one.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#10085 Jul 11, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>The rub is that he went on Hannity and told the nation his story yet won't sit in front of 6 jurors and tell it, maybe the jury won't consider that, maybe it will.
Very rarely does a person claiming self defense not testify on their own behalf, whether or not the jury knows that is anyone's guess. One juror is said to be married to an attorney and another the mother of one.
Bullshit again. Just about every defense attorney who has commented on this case has said that the last thing a defense wants to do is put their client on the stand no matter how guilty or innocent they may be. It is too easy for them to get tripped up and trapped by the prosecuting attorney. And especailly in this case, why would Zimmerman need to take the stand??? The prosecution has NOT made their case of proving 2nd degree murder beyond reasonable doubt. Not even close. Over half of their witnesses provided the reasonable doubt for the defense. If the jury can leave emotion outside and concentrate only on the testimonies given....Zimmerman walks.
Crazy Ass Cracker

Cynthiana, KY

#10086 Jul 11, 2013
Thanks to Prez Hussein and his butt buddy Holder we have racial unrest if the Zimmerman trial doesn't go their way. "if I had a son" comment took an otherwise non-case situation to major national headline status. Zim won't have a chance at "innocent until proven guilty". This trial is underway because Mr Change needs racial unrest.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#10087 Jul 11, 2013
It was actually Revs. Al and Jesse that took it to a national level.

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