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Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

There are 9853 comments on the Bloomberg story from Mar 20, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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menards

Bordentown, NJ

#9902 Jul 3, 2013
Say What What wrote:
<quoted text>Link?
Google. Are you surprised that a violent, child molesting, domestic abuser would not pass the pysch eval? Zimmerman is the exact opposite of what you would want in a cop!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9903 Jul 3, 2013
Incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Some people are so blinded by their racism, they don't see how stupid they look. Zimmerman would be dead today if he didn't have a gun.
Is that so? According to his own testimony he would not have left his car and followed the kid without a gun - ye moron!!

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9910 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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I don't think he got that far in the process. I think they saw his arrest record and disqualified him
It was his credit history, at least that's what Opie wanted redacted, he's a deadbeat. Of course being a deadbeat doesn't make someone a liar...unless they're on the phone with a creditor.

George once quit a job in order to avoid a wage garnishment.

All the gun talk with the FDLE expert was BS, George admitted that he shot the "suspect." The forensics, bullet path etc. might play a role at some point however.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9911 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Correct
Zimmerman should have never been charged
He likely would have been charged and arrested in Virginia which has yet to adopt SYG.

In spite if what you've learned on topix, the fuss began because George was not arrested that evening but treated as a friend of law enforcement even though law enforcement had no clue who the dead guy was. Provoking a use of force is a bullsht excuse.

If George had been arrested and booked on some charge, he would have been forced to lawyer up and shut up...Sanford PD would have been forced to do a thorough investigation.
menards

Bordentown, NJ

#9912 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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I don't think there is any evidence of child molesting, but from the looks of his wife, a case for bestiality can be made
Testimony from the victim, Zimmerman's cousin, states she was molested by zimmermanover a period of ten years, from age six to sixteen.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9917 Jul 3, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Care to show that link? Oh wait it's just another make it up as you go just to be proven a liar later. We are use to that.
Donald O'Brien, the HOA president, testified that the police did not do regular patrols of the area due to the lack of a written agreement between the HOA and the police department (private property). O'Brian testified that construction workers in the neighborhood had followed a burglary suspect in the past, resulting in an arrest, and that he had sent out a congratulatory email. Hmm. No complaints about following before. In fact a pat on the back was in order. Of course what thug is stupid enough to jump a bunch of construction workers, thug might get a broke neck.
That's not the entire story Tracy, are you lying again or simply learning challenged?

The stucco worker(s) spotted a person they had previously seen burglarizing a home "during daylight hours" then followed him from a distance "during daylight hours" then reported his location to law enforcement who arrested the young man who actually lived inside the community. I should mention that the stucco workers were present because the community was just being completed at that time.

O'Brien also talked about the parking problems and then about how he didn't think the community really needed a Neighborhood Watch program. Perhaps he didn't see The Retreat as a crime ridden hell hole, odd that none of the residents near the site of the shooting site did either.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9918 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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They would have called the CA at home and put the ball in his court. The CA would see the potential for accusations of racial bias and the political fallout. The CA would have him charged with Voluntary Manslaughter and then go on to lose it in court
If that same action had been taken in this case...it would have never become a national obsession and George and Shellie might be at home today gnawing on their third pork chop.

George needed an attorney 5 seconds after he pulled the trigger, only a fn moron would argue that. His bff Mark gave George sht advice.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9919 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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WOW
Maybe if he had broken into some houses and cars, he would have been able to pay his bills, improve his credit, and become a real cop
Maybe if his aunt had balls she'd be his uncle?

Stay on top please.
Menards

New York, NY

#9921 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Why hasn't this come out in the regular media?
It has. Google.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9922 Jul 3, 2013
Zimmerman is a sociopath, not once has he shown remorse or has expressed regret for having snuffed out a young life. After all he could have shot him the shoulder or leg it's not like he could have missed from point blank!!
plant a REGGIN

Tempe, AZ

#9925 Jul 3, 2013
But the REGGIN is dead, so who cares, soon they will start taking 10-20 at a time so it's worth it.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#9928 Jul 4, 2013
Lifffffe Coachhhh wrote:
You can pass all the "castle doctrine " and all the"stand your ground" laws you want to but when some gun nut shoots sn unarmed black teenager he is going to jail
I am not saying it's right but it is fact
What has happened is a turning point in American history has occurred. Caused by our government. Now and forever more and more people will purchase weapons for self defense. It will be ingrained in us now as we have seen the government of the United States forget the people that are the backbone of America. To honestly believe that we must watch our family, friends and others to keep being assaulted and killed with malice as a government kowtows to a group of people bent on self destruction mainly because the successful in the group think with their heritage and not with sense has now put most on notice that his is survival time. It will only get worse now. Oh, people will be congenial and all the rest. But if before there was sadness and compassion in riots, there won't be anymore. Tipping points have occurred. You can not have equality while staying separate. And it is not the white folks who are staying separate. Integration means civility. Assimilation should have occurred and instead we got political correctness that favors groups that can do no wrong except to themselves or if they go to far. And you see the results. We rebuilt parts of the world with a pittance to what we spent on social and economic justice. The forced guilt is gone. the new austere era is upon us with a heavy dose of Homeland Security totalitarian rule. And someday soon one of them will replace a Zimmerman and there will be no questions, no threats of violence, and no payouts. Just obedience...or else!
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9929 Jul 4, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Sanford is not the only agency in the area. A whole bunch of departments in that area have been hiring and they were all BEGGING for people before Bush's economic meltdown in 2007. Police departments were taking any minimally qualified body that came through the door
And tell me, do they prefer trained or non trained applicants?
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9930 Jul 4, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Have no doubt, I believe Travon was a much bigger idiot than Zimmermann, but Zimmerman is an idiot nonetheless
No argument there. Had Trayvon been a better criminal and armed George would be dead. The ADVICE not to follow a suspected criminal is sound. Thar pea shooter George had is only good a very close ranges and not what I would have carried to a dark area where a criminal may be waiting for me. That is a pure last ditch self defense weapon, not a combat or offensive weapon.
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9931 Jul 4, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Probably not dead, but he would have been beaten up more. I think Zimmermann ended up taking some of those shots because he had to drop one of his hands go go for the gun
It's not easy for the average man to kill someone with their bare hands. Travon would have kept beating Zimmermann until he curled up into a fetal position and started to weep. Then Travon would have kicked him in the ribs a few times, called him a "cracker" and a "beeotch" and walked away
Would you stake your life on that assumption? MURRAY, Utah -- A 46-year-old soccer referee who was punched by a teenage player during a game and later slipped into a coma has died, police said.

Ricardo Portillo of Salt Lake City passed away at the hospital, where he was being treated following the assault last weekend, Unified police spokesman Justin Hoyal said Saturday night.

Police have accused a 17-year-old player in a recreational soccer league of punching Portillo after the man called a foul on him and issued him a yellow card.
Jeremiah

Bloomington, IN

#9932 Jul 4, 2013
If Zimmerman had not had a gun what would the story be? Black teen bashes man's head in?
Would there be a story at all? The media might not have salivated over the story if it weren't for the race angle. Black on white crime is sometimes ignored since it doesn't fit the politically correct narrative.
If Zimmerman had been killed would it have been a non-story or would it have been lots of outraged op-eds about the murder of a Jewish man?
Is Zimmerman Jewish or part Hispanic? Does the Hispanic part disqualify him from supportive op eds?
Stand your ground isn't relevant. If Zimmerman thought his brains were going to start spilling out he had a legal right to self defense.
It's a circus put in front of us instead of investigative reporting on government.
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9933 Jul 4, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Is that so? According to his own testimony he would not have left his car and followed the kid without a gun - ye moron!!
I carry ALWAYS even when I'm not following anyone. If George wouldn't even leave his home to get milk unarmed then why get out on a dark night unarmed with a possible violent criminal lurking. Police are armed even when just taking a statement. With the criminal activity (by young black men) in his community no one living there should leave their front door without a gun.
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9934 Jul 4, 2013
menards wrote:
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Testimony from the victim, Zimmerman's cousin, states she was molested by zimmermanover a period of ten years, from age six to sixteen.
Another cousins says she saw George walk on water. Do you believe that too?
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9935 Jul 4, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>That's not the entire story Tracy, are you lying again or simply learning challenged?
The stucco worker(s) spotted a person they had previously seen burglarizing a home "during daylight hours" then followed him from a distance "during daylight hours" then reported his location to law enforcement who arrested the young man who actually lived inside the community. I should mention that the stucco workers were present because the community was just being completed at that time.
O'Brien also talked about the parking problems and then about how he didn't think the community really needed a Neighborhood Watch program. Perhaps he didn't see The Retreat as a crime ridden hell hole, odd that none of the residents near the site of the shooting site did either.
Oh I didn't realize DAYLIGHT changed a crime. How far is "a distance"? I can't find a legal definition of "a distance" when observing a criminal.
Tray

New Albany, MS

#9937 Jul 4, 2013
spocko wrote:
Zimmerman is a sociopath, not once has he shown remorse or has expressed regret for having snuffed out a young life. After all he could have shot him the shoulder or leg it's not like he could have missed from point blank!!
That is the stupidest remark yet. Why feel regret for defending yourself from a drugged out criminal? Should a woman being raped feel bad for her rapist because she wore a short dress? Have you ever been in a fight? Try to aim while having your head beat. Rarely does one bullet stop an attack. I have seen people continue for over 10 minuets after receiving a fatal wound. The Boston bomber continued for days after receiving several serious gunshots. Stop watching old westerns they are making you an idiot.

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