Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

Mar 20, 2012 Full story: Bloomberg 9,570

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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spocko

Oakland, CA

#9872 Jul 2, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Citizen tired of thugs overrunning the neighborhood. Citizen tired of thugs getting a free pass after violating those who try to make something of themselves. Trayvon was a cancer spreading to yet another neighborhood of what he thought was helpless victims. We have a cure for thugs. The "helpless victims" are arming themselves at record rates. Gun ownership has skyrocketed. This case will kill the expectation of safety in the thug line of work. Hiding behind the race card is dead. Your attempt to somehow justify the thug lifestyle has failed. Look around you, face facts, the free ride is coming to an end.
Fact is you can't back up your outrageous racist statement. You personify what is wrong with this country with your hateful and racist mindset!
Incredulous

Carmel, IN

#9874 Jul 2, 2013
pffffttt wrote:
the gun laws worked perfectly. A legal licensed concealed carry holder defended himself against a punk who didn't like to be watched as he cases apartments for future burglaries evidenced by prior acts of being caught with burglary tools in his possession (which conveniently the liberal judge refused to be brought in as evidence).
the judge does not appear to be unbiased.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9875 Jul 2, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Citizen tired of thugs overrunning the neighborhood. Citizen tired of thugs getting a free pass after violating those who try to make something of themselves. Trayvon was a cancer spreading to yet another neighborhood of what he thought was helpless victims. We have a cure for thugs. The "helpless victims" are arming themselves at record rates. Gun ownership has skyrocketed. This case will kill the expectation of safety in the thug line of work. Hiding behind the race card is dead. Your attempt to somehow justify the thug lifestyle has failed. Look around you, face facts, the free ride is coming to an end.
How exactly are these thugs overrunning a gated community? The fact is a number of residence had been complaining that they feel uncomfortable and threatened by this Zimmerman volunteer lurking in the shadows with a loaded gun! You clearly have mental problems why don't you go and get help?
Incredulous

Carmel, IN

#9876 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact is you can't back up your outrageous racist statement. You personify what is wrong with this country with your hateful and racist mindset!
there is no question this case opened the eyes of those who didn't think reverse racism was running rampant in this society.......fueled by a racist media, corrupt politicians and liberal monsters who want big brother to rule the world.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9877 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact is you can't back up your outrageous racist statement. You personify what is wrong with this country with your hateful and racist mindset!
Why would I have any mindset? What was racist? Oh that's right BECAUSE IT WAS EARNED. Do you really need to be schooled on the crime rates and who commits the highest%? Profile is using past activity to relate to present activity. Blacks are profiled because they commit the greater % of crime DUH. Do you want facts removed from society simply because they are true? By the way you still would cringe when meeting a young black man in a dark area wearing thug clothes. Admit at least to yourself that is a profile and a realistic one at that.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9878 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
How exactly are these thugs overrunning a gated community? The fact is a number of residence had been complaining that they feel uncomfortable and threatened by this Zimmerman volunteer lurking in the shadows with a loaded gun! You clearly have mental problems why don't you go and get help?
Hmmm. Complaining about George? Why didn't any of them file a complaint? I bet they had much more to complain about with young black men committing crimes in their community , like breaking into their homes. Remember the POLICE issued the statement of who they should be looking out for not George. Why? Because young black men were committing the crimes. DUH. By the way why don't you ask those living there about being glad the criminal activity stopped after George made an example of one. Funny how the news groups don't print the statements of the majority of them being thankful of George.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9879 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
How exactly are these thugs overrunning a gated community? The fact is a number of residence had been complaining that they feel uncomfortable and threatened by this Zimmerman volunteer lurking in the shadows with a loaded gun! You clearly have mental problems why don't you go and get help?
Please provide a link to "George lurking in the shadows". As far as the loaded gun,(before making a bigger fool of yourself) check how many there had conceal carry permits. More than you think carried loaded guns.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9880 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
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You claimed Trayvon had no previous record of illegal activity. It is a proven lie. You claimed Trayvon didn't do drugs. A proven lie. Not only did he do drugs but manufactured and provide drugs to minors. You claimed he was not a thug. A proven lie. By his own text messages he was a "gangsta". You claimed George attacked first. You have absolutely to proof to back that claim.(If you did the state of Florida wants to speak to you). You claim the police operator was a cop and issued a lawful order "not to follow". Once again a proven lie. I could go on and on but I don't want arthritis. You have been proven wrong and a liar for over a year now, aren't you about tired of being proven over and over to be a lying fool?
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9881 Jul 2, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
Zimmermann is a wannabe
Zimmermann should not have followed Martin. Zimmermann should not have had a gun on him
Zimmermann started this mess
Martin took it too far
Zimmermann was defending himself
Zimmermann needs to be acquitted
But if the jury ever reads this forum, he will be convicted because of the remarks made by you gun nuts
When did wanting to be a cop and help protect your community become a bad thing? I would think one would be proud to be called a wannabe cop. Trayvon was a wannabe GANGSTA. Which would you be proud to tell your mother you wannabe? George wanted to stop the criminals in his community. He did. Trayvon wanted to be a gangsta and lay dead in a dark area in the rain after living the gangsta life. He did. George didn't start this mess. Those committing breakins and criminal activity in the community started it. Those glamorizing thug and gangsta lifestyle started this. parents not taking the responsibility of raising a child with moral standards started this thing. George (like many others) are tired of it. Gun owners are not the nuts. Those who think they can continue to rape, steal, assault, helpless victims are nuts. The victims are growing teeth. Nuts is thinking "gangsta" has a future.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9884 Jul 2, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
You idiots need to stop the name-calling
Intentionally hypocritical???
The Truth

Charlottesville, VA

#9885 Jul 2, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
You idiots need to stop the name-calling
OK, Sick Ducker.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9886 Jul 2, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Hmmm. Complaining about George? Why didn't any of them file a complaint?
They did!!
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9887 Jul 2, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
You idiots need to stop the name-calling
Sure, let those who started go first. If you will read my posts you will see I show great restraint.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9888 Jul 2, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
If I am not mistaken, Zimmer tried to become a cop, but he was rejected probably because of that prior arrest
You are mistaken. He was taking courses to be qualified. Untill this case cause him to be kicked out because the school didn't want the publicity. He had inquired on what he needed to do to qualify for the job but not applied. If you will check the testimony George was offered expanded patrol but he rejected it.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#9889 Jul 2, 2013
spocko wrote:
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They did!!
Care to show that link? Oh wait it's just another make it up as you go just to be proven a liar later. We are use to that.

Donald O'Brien, the HOA president, testified that the police did not do regular patrols of the area due to the lack of a written agreement between the HOA and the police department (private property). O'Brian testified that construction workers in the neighborhood had followed a burglary suspect in the past, resulting in an arrest, and that he had sent out a congratulatory email. Hmm. No complaints about following before. In fact a pat on the back was in order. Of course what thug is stupid enough to jump a bunch of construction workers, thug might get a broke neck.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9891 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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The Sanford Police Department hires right out of high school and then sends them to an academy while on the payroll (unless they're nuts)
IF they have an opening. But they still require you pass the academy. Our local police does the same (if no already qualified person applies) but it is preferable you already have the training before they need anyone, which is usually only 2 or 3 per year. Most police departments have very low turnover rates, you may have a long wait about getting hired by any specific one. Common sense says preparing yourself for the career you want increases the chances of getting hired, especially in a line of work with high competition and low turnover.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9893 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
The Sanford Police Department hires right out of high school and then sends them to an academy while on the payroll (unless they're nuts)
Being a "gangsta" on the other hand requires no training, just stupidity or being nuts. Anyone can be one and they have plenty of openings. However the retirement plan sucks (a bullet or jail).
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#9894 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
The Sanford Police Department hires right out of high school and then sends them to an academy while on the payroll (unless they're nuts)
There are schools/academies down here that people may be hired by an agency or people pay to go to hoping to be hire by an agency after graduating. But all must graduate and be certified.
Menards

Hoboken, NJ

#9895 Jul 3, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
If I am not mistaken, Zimmer tried to become a cop, but he was rejected probably because of that prior arrest
He didn't pass the psych eval.....
Menards

Brooklyn, NY

#9896 Jul 3, 2013
Don West is a walking talking disaster... From knock knock jokes to Instagram... Holy sh!t...I guess they knew they didn't have a prayer of winning anyway... Might as well make a joke of it right?

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