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Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

There are 9862 comments on the Bloomberg story from Mar 20, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9188 Jun 6, 2013
I would bet there are a few EX NBC employees that wish they had stuck to the facts in this case instead of trying to make a case about race in this instance. Altering the facts and making false claims made them unemployed and may make them financially responsible for that mistake. I would bet they are just the beginning. I figure many heads will role before this is over. It would be prudent to "back off" making claims one can't back up with facts.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#9189 Jun 6, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> If Zimmerman was so guilty then why did the press, panthers, state, and you need to lie about the facts. The police didn't issue a lawful order "to stay in his truck".
Grasping at straws. Now its a "lawful order"?!?! Zimmerman called the police. the police told him not to follow martin. He made the choice to disobey. Thats not "lying about the facts" that is the facts. You cant seem to get that straight.
Tray wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no evidence Zimmerman touched, spoke, confronted, made any threat first.
Aside from the fact that he intially followed, trayvon retreated, Zimmerman pursued & caught up with. Those are facts. Creepy man following you around in the dark. Remember Zimmerman is a pedophile who molested his cousin for over a decade.
Tray wrote:
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The yelling is irrelevant because Trayvon had no wounds so very unlikely was he under attack. George had injuries so logic dictates HE was under attack. Any attempt by the state to claim otherwise just makes them look more desperate.
There sure is alot of "unlikely" "so logic dictates" hmmmm u dont sound so sure of yourself. Key question. Zimmerman doesnt shoot Martin. Cops arrive on the scene. Is Martin charged with ANY crime? C'mon you know the answer. Say it.
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> George will walk, the have lawsuits against all those who falsely lied and degraded his reputation (possibly many on public forums). After millions are paid to him in these lawsuits most will think twice about railroading armed victims who defend themselves from violent criminals and thugs.
Let me reel you back in from fantasy land. Remember the police report. there is no evidence that shows martin to be partaking in any criminal activity the night he was murdered. None. Zero. Natta. Not a criminal, skippy, a kid that was profiled, followed, and gunned down by a pedophile that had wet dreams about killing someone. Always remember, its not slander if its true.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9190 Jun 6, 2013
menards wrote:
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Grasping at straws. Now its a "lawful order"?!?! Zimmerman called the police. the police told him not to follow martin. He made the choice to disobey. Thats not "lying about the facts" that is the facts. You cant seem to get that straight.
<quoted text>
Aside from the fact that he intially followed, trayvon retreated, Zimmerman pursued & caught up with. Those are facts. Creepy man following you around in the dark. Remember Zimmerman is a pedophile who molested his cousin for over a decade.
<quoted text>
There sure is alot of "unlikely" "so logic dictates" hmmmm u dont sound so sure of yourself. Key question. Zimmerman doesnt shoot Martin. Cops arrive on the scene. Is Martin charged with ANY crime? C'mon you know the answer. Say it.
<quoted text>
Let me reel you back in from fantasy land. Remember the police report. there is no evidence that shows martin to be partaking in any criminal activity the night he was murdered. None. Zero. Natta. Not a criminal, skippy, a kid that was profiled, followed, and gunned down by a pedophile that had wet dreams about killing someone. Always remember, its not slander if its true.
No cop ever told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9191 Jun 6, 2013
menards wrote:
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Grasping at straws. Now its a "lawful order"?!?! Zimmerman called the police. the police told him not to follow martin. He made the choice to disobey. Thats not "lying about the facts" that is the facts. You cant seem to get that straight.
<quoted text>
Aside from the fact that he intially followed, trayvon retreated, Zimmerman pursued & caught up with. Those are facts. Creepy man following you around in the dark. Remember Zimmerman is a pedophile who molested his cousin for over a decade.
<quoted text>
There sure is alot of "unlikely" "so logic dictates" hmmmm u dont sound so sure of yourself. Key question. Zimmerman doesnt shoot Martin. Cops arrive on the scene. Is Martin charged with ANY crime? C'mon you know the answer. Say it.
<quoted text>
Let me reel you back in from fantasy land. Remember the police report. there is no evidence that shows martin to be partaking in any criminal activity the night he was murdered. None. Zero. Natta. Not a criminal, skippy, a kid that was profiled, followed, and gunned down by a pedophile that had wet dreams about killing someone. Always remember, its not slander if its true.
Is "Barefoot2626" your alter ego.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9192 Jun 6, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Is "Barefoot2626" your alter ego.
LMFAO !

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#9193 Jun 6, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>No cop ever told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.
Another grasp at straws.... If Zimmerman wasnt told by Sanford PD not to follow Martin, them O'mara wouldnt be asking the judge to prevent the prosecuition from making that same remark in their opening statement. Its kinda the nail in the coffin.... Omara knows it. Zimmerman knows it. You know it.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9194 Jun 6, 2013
menards wrote:
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Another grasp at straws.... If Zimmerman wasnt told by Sanford PD not to follow Martin, them O'mara wouldnt be asking the judge to prevent the prosecuition from making that same remark in their opening statement. Its kinda the nail in the coffin.... Omara knows it. Zimmerman knows it. You know it.
No police officer told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#9195 Jun 6, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>No police officer told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.
LOL! READ THE TRANSCRIPT FOOL! WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE?!?!

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9196 Jun 6, 2013
menards wrote:
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LOL! READ THE TRANSCRIPT FOOL! WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE?!?!
No police officer told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9197 Jun 7, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
Grasping at straws. Now its a "lawful order"?!?! Zimmerman called the police. the police told him not to follow martin. He made the choice to disobey. Thats not "lying about the facts" that is the facts. You cant seem to get that straight.
<quoted text>
Aside from the fact that he intially followed, trayvon retreated, Zimmerman pursued & caught up with. Those are facts. Creepy man following you around in the dark. Remember Zimmerman is a pedophile who molested his cousin for over a decade.
<quoted text>
There sure is alot of "unlikely" "so logic dictates" hmmmm u dont sound so sure of yourself. Key question. Zimmerman doesnt shoot Martin. Cops arrive on the scene. Is Martin charged with ANY crime? C'mon you know the answer. Say it.
<quoted text>
Let me reel you back in from fantasy land. Remember the police report. there is no evidence that shows martin to be partaking in any criminal activity the night he was murdered. None. Zero. Natta. Not a criminal, skippy, a kid that was profiled, followed, and gunned down by a pedophile that had wet dreams about killing someone. Always remember, its not slander if its true.
Out right lie on your part. A 911 operator "INFORMED" George "they didn't need him to do that". That is her official statement and will testify to that in court. She was not a cop. Just where in the tape are the words "don't follow" or "stay in your truck"? Another lie. Trayvon was partaking in ASSAULT and BATTERY,(an illegal activity). Following is not illegal or legal grounds for assault. Profiling is also not illegal especially when police had informed the residence there of "young black men breaking into homes". Who should the neighborhood watch be looking for, some old white woman? If you must lie and twist facts then you don't have a case to start with. You might want to ask NBC what happens to those who publicly make false statements about someone.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9198 Jun 7, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
Another grasp at straws.... If Zimmerman wasnt told by Sanford PD not to follow Martin, them O'mara wouldnt be asking the judge to prevent the prosecuition from making that same remark in their opening statement. Its kinda the nail in the coffin.... Omara knows it. Zimmerman knows it. You know it.
And the judge did order them not to make false claims in court including "police told George not to follow". Even the judge ruled it a lie. You do understand lying in court is illegal don't you? It looks like it's you running out of straws.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9199 Jun 7, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
Grasping at straws. Now its a "lawful order"?!?! Zimmerman called the police. the police told him not to follow martin. He made the choice to disobey. Thats not "lying about the facts" that is the facts. You cant seem to get that straight.
<quoted text>
Aside from the fact that he intially followed, trayvon retreated, Zimmerman pursued & caught up with. Those are facts. Creepy man following you around in the dark. Remember Zimmerman is a pedophile who molested his cousin for over a decade.
<quoted text>
There sure is alot of "unlikely" "so logic dictates" hmmmm u dont sound so sure of yourself. Key question. Zimmerman doesnt shoot Martin. Cops arrive on the scene. Is Martin charged with ANY crime? C'mon you know the answer. Say it.
<quoted text>
Let me reel you back in from fantasy land. Remember the police report. there is no evidence that shows martin to be partaking in any criminal activity the night he was murdered. None. Zero. Natta. Not a criminal, skippy, a kid that was profiled, followed, and gunned down by a pedophile that had wet dreams about killing someone. Always remember, its not slander if its true.
It is slander if you can't prove your claim. Can you personally prove "murder"? Can you prove you claim of molestation? No police charges of molestation has been filed so you might want to be careful on that one too.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9200 Jun 7, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> It is slander if you can't prove your claim. Can you personally prove "murder"? Can you prove you claim of molestation? No police charges of molestation has been filed so you might want to be careful on that one too.
I did a little digging into the "molestation" accusations. What I found was a cliam by some woman that Zimmerman molested her from the time she was 6 until 16 years old. Zimmerman allegedly started when he was EIGHT years old. Can an 8 year old be a pedophile? Or is it simply a case of two kids who grew up together playing "doctor"?

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9201 Jun 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
I did a little digging into the "molestation" accusations. What I found was a cliam by some woman that Zimmerman molested her from the time she was 6 until 16 years old. Zimmerman allegedly started when he was EIGHT years old. Can an 8 year old be a pedophile? Or is it simply a case of two kids who grew up together playing "doctor"?
LMAO at you did some digging. It's all over topix and other forums. The molesttee was George little cousin who he eventually worked with in the insurance business. The molesting probably began as a game of doctor but the girl claimed it went on until she was 16 years old. The revelation supposedly caused some dissension in the family as it was her father who set George up with his own agency.

She came forward to LE with the allegations, sounds like she's still pizzed off, or maybe nuts, maybe the whole family is nuts.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9202 Jun 7, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Out right lie on your part. A 911 operator "INFORMED" George "they didn't need him to do that". That is her official statement and will testify to that in court. She was not a cop. Just where in the tape are the words "don't follow" or "stay in your truck"? Another lie. Trayvon was partaking in ASSAULT and BATTERY,(an illegal activity). Following is not illegal or legal grounds for assault. Profiling is also not illegal especially when police had informed the residence there of "young black men breaking into homes". Who should the neighborhood watch be looking for, some old white woman? If you must lie and twist facts then you don't have a case to start with. You might want to ask NBC what happens to those who publicly make false statements about someone.
I thought this racist thread died and took your brain damaged azz with it to topix he11.

It was a male non emergency dispatcher who worked at the Sanford Police Department location. The 911 call center is located elsewhere, namely at the Seminole County Emergency Operations Center.

Are you saying that you've never bothered to listen to the actual call yet post your opinions about what was said?

You're a real prize.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9203 Jun 7, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO at you did some digging. It's all over topix and other forums. The molesttee was George little cousin who he eventually worked with in the insurance business. The molesting probably began as a game of doctor but the girl claimed it went on until she was 16 years old. The revelation supposedly caused some dissension in the family as it was her father who set George up with his own agency.
She came forward to LE with the allegations, sounds like she's still pizzed off, or maybe nuts, maybe the whole family is nuts.
I have seen a lot of people calling him molester and pedophile, without posting proof of such. That is why I went digging.(I rarely take anyone at their word unless I know them personally, especially not those in a public forum like Topix.)

Funny how she would wait almost 10 years to come forward with her accusations, and only after the shooting of the Martin.

It still shows that the alleged molestation went on until Zimmerman was only 18 and she was 16. So I will ask again...can a child be considered a pedophile? And what proof is there of the molestation? Or does she simply have an axe to grind with Zimmerman. Molestation from years ago is the easiest thing to claim, and one of the hardest thing to fight because it is a "he said/she said" thing.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9204 Jun 7, 2013
Lord...another idgit trying to play the race card.
Patriot

Oaxaca, Mexico

#9206 Jun 7, 2013
Hasn't that deck of cards all been used already? This case shouldn't have went to tral. Any grand jury would've kicked it out anyway but the porch monkeys were out in force to revenge the death of the drug addicted wannabe gangsta as usual. After his own mother copyrighted the little bastard I knew it was going strong. I bet mommy who had kicked the little thug outa the house anyway never dreamed he could be so valuable dead. That big lipped brother that pimps around with a suit and tie nowdays better be careful. Ol Papi Martin may be looking for that next Cadillac. Betcha they've got a life insurance policy out on the son now!
Armed Veteran wrote:
Lord...another idgit trying to play the race card.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9207 Jun 7, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Hasn't that deck of cards all been used already? This case shouldn't have went to tral. Any grand jury would've kicked it out anyway but the porch monkeys were out in force to revenge the death of the drug addicted wannabe gangsta as usual. After his own mother copyrighted the little bastard I knew it was going strong. I bet mommy who had kicked the little thug outa the house anyway never dreamed he could be so valuable dead. That big lipped brother that pimps around with a suit and tie nowdays better be careful. Ol Papi Martin may be looking for that next Cadillac. Betcha they've got a life insurance policy out on the son now!
<quoted text>
You're playing the race card too. Just from the other side of the aisle. They don't need any help, and you are giving them plenty of ammunition (no pun intended)

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#9208 Jun 7, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! READ THE TRANSCRIPT FOOL! WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE?!?!
A municipal employee known as a telephone operator answered the phone.
If one calls a doctor's office is the secretary that answers the phone, a doctor?

Is the janitor employed by the Stanford Police Department, also a cop?

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