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Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

There are 9850 comments on the Bloomberg story from Mar 20, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#8749 Oct 15, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Hard to say.
You've got at least one poster in here who changes his location every day. I'm showing Japan myself when it was Sacramento earlier.
Might want to register given it may or may not be you punk.
Why not take your own advice son?
Why not use your own newly registered screen name?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#8750 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Everyone sees it except him. I guess we are all losers for letting facts get in the way of our opinions.
Apparently so.

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#8751 Oct 15, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Nope, I meant they were able to measure the amount.
You fell in the trap son.
LOL! Trapping people with BS?

This article from May "may" help you. LOL!

http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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You want to know just how much was, uh, measurable?
1.5 Nanograms. How much is a nanogram?
'Nano-' denotes a fraction of one billionth (10-9)

A nanogram (ng) is, therefore, 10-9g or one billionth of a gram. This can be written as a unit in the 9th decimal place: 0.0000000015g
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_is_a_nanog...
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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The fact that it was measured in his blood is the point Danny Boy.
What exactly is your point? Do you even know?
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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That means he was high at the time of the, uh, incident.
Uh, no it doesnt.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...

"For one, they are so low as to almost certainly not be connected to recent intoxication: 1.5 nanograms of THC were found as well as 7.3 nanograms of THC-COOH, a metabolite of THC that can stay in the system for weeks after cannabis has been smoked. Immediately after inhaling, THC levels typically rise to 100 to 200 nanograms per milliter of blood..."
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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You wish to find the toxicology report on your own son and save face, or would you prefer I play with you a little longer before I burst your bubble?
LOL! You think your bursting bubbles with your made up BS, son? Thanks for stopping in. Have a nice day! Asshat...

http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...

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#8752 Oct 15, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Really?
Yes, Really.
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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How long does THC stay in human blood?
A few days to several weeks.
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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How long does THC stay in human urine?
A few days to Several weeks
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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How long does THC stay in human hair follicles?
Depends how often you get your hair cut.
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Since you say I am in error. How about you educate me on the matter?
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuan...
Tray

Belden, MS

#8753 Oct 15, 2012
menards wrote:
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Yes, Really.
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A few days to several weeks.
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A few days to Several weeks
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Depends how often you get your hair cut.
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http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuan...
Umm. I guess you missed the FACT one of the items on his person was a lighter. Since he didn't smoke cigarettes but was positive for drugs just where do you think that points? The lighter was on him that night not from weeks ago, however the baggy and pipe had been found LESS than a week earlier pointing to ONGOING drug use. Do you deny it is very possible he was high that night?
Tray

Belden, MS

#8754 Oct 15, 2012
menards wrote:
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LOL! Trapping people with BS?
This article from May "may" help you. LOL!
http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...
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1.5 Nanograms. How much is a nanogram?
'Nano-' denotes a fraction of one billionth (10-9)
A nanogram (ng) is, therefore, 10-9g or one billionth of a gram. This can be written as a unit in the 9th decimal place: 0.0000000015g
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_is_a_nanog...
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What exactly is your point? Do you even know?
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Uh, no it doesnt.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...
"For one, they are so low as to almost certainly not be connected to recent intoxication: 1.5 nanograms of THC were found as well as 7.3 nanograms of THC-COOH, a metabolite of THC that can stay in the system for weeks after cannabis has been smoked. Immediately after inhaling, THC levels typically rise to 100 to 200 nanograms per milliter of blood..."
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LOL! You think your bursting bubbles with your made up BS, son? Thanks for stopping in. Have a nice day! Asshat...
http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/18/traces-...
Funny how you quote a bias link and even it can't say he was not high. All they can confirm is he was positive for drugs which goes in favor of Georges assessment of Trayvon being on drugs. There are literally thousands of CONVICTED cases of crimes being committed by felons that were high on marijuana including assault and murder in fact many tried to use being high as an excuse for the crime. Opps is that a bubble popping?
Tray

Belden, MS

#8755 Oct 15, 2012
Darn those FACTS just keep getting in the way.

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#8756 Oct 15, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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You call that a fact eh.
Uh OK.
It is not possible that he attacked Z out of sheer teenage hormonal rampage to show that "threat" known as George Zimmerman, just how badass he (Trayvon) was?
And you'd call your opinion Trayvon attacked Zimmerman out of "sheer teenage hormonal rage" fact???

BAH HAH HAH!!!

You're laughable hypocrite.

Zimmerman is going down fruitcake.

George's culpability and responsibility lies into the fact he pursued Trayvon in the manner he did. The fact no one but these two involved does not enable george to create a story line on events and make that the only plausible scenario given he's the only one who lived.

What if Trayvon was the one who lived. What if Trayvon advised he was being pursued by a strange man at night and he felt he had to defend himself with the only weapon at his disposal were his hands.

Would you then support Trayvon? You wouldn't have little tale of events now would you.

---Start thinking moron. Because I hate to tell you that's how this case will be decided. Not by bias but by actual thought.

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#8757 Oct 15, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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And you, a fcuking loser yourself apparently, keep using hyperbole, conjecture, and fantasy in place of facts.
Really.

So it's not a fact an unarmed boy was shot dead by an armed man?

It's not fact that it was George pursuing Trayvon and not the other way around?

It's not fact George had no police training but thought he could carry a gun and act as one?

It's not fact it was night?

It's not fact that the cops would have rather had him stop his fantasy play of pretending to be the Lone Ranger after he already advised them of seeing a "suspicious" person?

It's not fact Zimmerman left his car to continue pursuit even after he followed Trayvon by both foot at auto previously?

It's not fact any reasonable person would see a stranger following them around at night as a possible threat?

it's not a fact that Trayvon had only a trace of past use of marijuana in his system?

It's not a fact marijuana is not a drug such as rock cocaine or bath salts that make users go uncontrollably violent?

It's not a fact Trayvon was not guilty of doing anything illegal that night?

It's not a fact Trayvon had no past that would lead us to believe he'd go violent for no cause on some stranger?

It's not a fact George had a history of repeatedly calling 911 and being an overzealous wanna be policeman in the area?

---I don't know shitforbrains but those seem like a lot of facts you seem to want to dismiss.

Get a clue moron. You don't strap on a gun and play a Texas Ranger only to kill an unarmed person without having your ducks in a row and by all indications little boy George did not.

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#8758 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Umm. I guess you missed the FACT one of the items on his person was a lighter. Since he didn't smoke cigarettes but was positive for drugs just where do you think that points? The lighter was on him that night not from weeks ago, however the baggy and pipe had been found LESS than a week earlier pointing to ONGOING drug use. Do you deny it is very possible he was high that night?
OOOOOoooooo......a lighter.

Yeah....that really proves Trayvon was a drugged out killer.

LOL!!!!

He probably did smoke weed from time to time. Big wahoo.

Weed does not make you go bonkers friend. Shit....with half the people that use it it makes them go to sleep and the others just go into a mellow state of mind.

Add to that dickhead he only had trace amounts of that in his system.

Now if you had brains you'd know if Trayvon was all loaded up with a milkshake of booze and crack cocaine that night you might have a point but as it is you're reaching and it's really sad of you to have to pull such a claim.
Tray

Belden, MS

#8759 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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And you'd call your opinion Trayvon attacked Zimmerman out of "sheer teenage hormonal rage" fact???
BAH HAH HAH!!!
You're laughable hypocrite.
Zimmerman is going down fruitcake.
George's culpability and responsibility lies into the fact he pursued Trayvon in the manner he did. The fact no one but these two involved does not enable george to create a story line on events and make that the only plausible scenario given he's the only one who lived.
What if Trayvon was the one who lived. What if Trayvon advised he was being pursued by a strange man at night and he felt he had to defend himself with the only weapon at his disposal were his hands.
Would you then support Trayvon? You wouldn't have little tale of events now would you.
---Start thinking moron. Because I hate to tell you that's how this case will be decided. Not by bias but by actual thought.
Actually it will be decided on facts and proof. The state can't just make up a story and try to sell it. They MUST prove their accusations. Haven't you heard there is a constitution that says innocent until PROVEN guilty. IF Trayvon had lived, and IF he could provide a story consistent with the physical evidence then yes this case would be different. Even the state has not come up with a story or theory of what happened that night much less proof of that theory. In FACT they admit they don't know what really happened. This all leads to REASONABLE DOUBT. Look it up.
Tray

Belden, MS

#8760 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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OOOOOoooooo......a lighter.
Yeah....that really proves Trayvon was a drugged out killer.
LOL!!!!
He probably did smoke weed from time to time. Big wahoo.
Weed does not make you go bonkers friend. Shit....with half the people that use it it makes them go to sleep and the others just go into a mellow state of mind.
Add to that dickhead he only had trace amounts of that in his system.
Now if you had brains you'd know if Trayvon was all loaded up with a milkshake of booze and crack cocaine that night you might have a point but as it is you're reaching and it's really sad of you to have to pull such a claim.
Once again idiot it does not have to prove a thing just provide the possibility of it.

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#8761 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> I don't need to bring race into this, he was a thug. Color has nothing to do with thugs they come in ALL colors and backgrounds. People like you do piss me off by defending racism on either side. The card is dead, the free ride from it is over. Being of any color no longer is justification for any action.
It's you dumbass opinion Trayvon was a thug.

I'll bet my marble collection the jury won't see him as a "thug" so your opinion means jackshit freak.

As far as race it's you who seems to *claim* every poster against your idiotic views is "racist" yet you have no proof of such so shaddup with the bullshit fabrications loser.

Zimmerman played an overzealous punk. He may have felt his "life was in danger" at some point but who brought him there?

It was George friend. His irresponsible actions brought him there. no different than if you were to poke a tiger at the zoo.

Can't blame the tiger to respond and you can't blame Trayvon for reacting to some creep following him.

Add to that it's highly likely George made Trayvon react in a more direct way. this kid had past of beating up strangers so the question begs itself why would he just go apeshit on George that night.

Quit being a dumb fucking loser.

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#8762 Oct 15, 2012
....This kid had NO past of beating up strangers....
Tray

Belden, MS

#8763 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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OOOOOoooooo......a lighter.
Yeah....that really proves Trayvon was a drugged out killer.
LOL!!!!
He probably did smoke weed from time to time. Big wahoo.
Weed does not make you go bonkers friend. Shit....with half the people that use it it makes them go to sleep and the others just go into a mellow state of mind.
Add to that dickhead he only had trace amounts of that in his system.
Now if you had brains you'd know if Trayvon was all loaded up with a milkshake of booze and crack cocaine that night you might have a point but as it is you're reaching and it's really sad of you to have to pull such a claim.
ALL drug test lists as TRACE amounts as the body can't be 100% whole drugs. Do you deny the possibility he was high? Do you deny the possibility Trayvon attacked for some reason other than self defense? Do you deny the possibility he was looking to commit a crime such as theft?

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#8764 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Once again idiot it does not have to prove a thing just provide the possibility of it.
Wrong.

he killed an unarmed boy.

It's not going to be as simple as you think. Your idiotic view of the law in this case is so skewed you're blind to the facts.

Here's the skinny.

George is innocent until proven guilty.

George is going to be on trial for killing this kid.

the jury only has to be convinced in George's involvement in this case and Zimmerman's responsibility in it. They don't have to believe George's bullshit.

Until this is over you don't have an iron clad prediction nor do I but i'm willing to bet hard earned money George will be humbled by living in a 8 x 10 hard cold concrete living space for the next few years very soon.

LOL!!!

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#8765 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Actually it will be decided on facts and proof. The state can't just make up a story and try to sell it. They MUST prove their accusations. Haven't you heard there is a constitution that says innocent until PROVEN guilty. IF Trayvon had lived, and IF he could provide a story consistent with the physical evidence then yes this case would be different. Even the state has not come up with a story or theory of what happened that night much less proof of that theory. In FACT they admit they don't know what really happened. This all leads to REASONABLE DOUBT. Look it up.
George is trying to make up a story and sell it.

You're conveniently forgetting ll the circumstances behind this case my little simpleton.

As far as reasonable doubt let the prosecution do it's job. I think you're going to get a little surprise.
LOL!!!
Tray

Belden, MS

#8766 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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It's you dumbass opinion Trayvon was a thug.
I'll bet my marble collection the jury won't see him as a "thug" so your opinion means jackshit freak.
As far as race it's you who seems to *claim* every poster against your idiotic views is "racist" yet you have no proof of such so shaddup with the bullshit fabrications loser.
Zimmerman played an overzealous punk. He may have felt his "life was in danger" at some point but who brought him there?
It was George friend. His irresponsible actions brought him there. no different than if you were to poke a tiger at the zoo.
Can't blame the tiger to respond and you can't blame Trayvon for reacting to some creep following him.
Add to that it's highly likely George made Trayvon react in a more direct way. this kid had past of beating up strangers so the question begs itself why would he just go apeshit on George that night.
Quit being a dumb fucking loser.
I think you and I have done been down this road. Changing your name does not make you any more valid than before. Provide PROOF George committed a crime or quit wasting everyones time. And yes YOU brought up race as proven before.

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#8767 Oct 15, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> ALL drug test lists as TRACE amounts as the body can't be 100% whole drugs. Do you deny the possibility he was high? Do you deny the possibility Trayvon attacked for some reason other than self defense? Do you deny the possibility he was looking to commit a crime such as theft?
Trace results in a drug test are exactly that. They can point to past usage but that's about it Einstein.

Do I deny Trayvon was looking to commit a crime?

Absolutely.

There's no evidence to prove otherwise.

Just because you have an opinion of such does not make it fact. jUST BECAUSE george thought he had a 'per' does not make it fact either.

Idiot.
Tray

Belden, MS

#8768 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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Wrong.
he killed an unarmed boy.
It's not going to be as simple as you think. Your idiotic view of the law in this case is so skewed you're blind to the facts.
Here's the skinny.
George is innocent until proven guilty.
George is going to be on trial for killing this kid.
the jury only has to be convinced in George's involvement in this case and Zimmerman's responsibility in it. They don't have to believe George's bullshit.
Until this is over you don't have an iron clad prediction nor do I but i'm willing to bet hard earned money George will be humbled by living in a 8 x 10 hard cold concrete living space for the next few years very soon.
LOL!!!
To convince the jury they REQUIRE evidence and proof. The judge can not and will not allow the state to make accusations they can't prove. You need to sit in a court room a few times it's not Judge Judy. You are thinking of a civil court not a criminal court.

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