What Happened to the Philippines? From Leader-of-the-Pack in the '60s to Bottom of the Heap Today

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There is this well-known story, or urban legend as some might call it, about frogs that says if you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will immediately jump out.

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Biggest thieves

Los Angeles, CA

#43 Jan 3, 2009
Visaya wrote:
Let's say the government like GMA is a frog. Inspite of all demands, non-ending impeachment cases and corruption cases of her government, she is holding firmly and would not jump out. While the oppositions who were voted out, are still trying hard by all means to jump in.....
It's a vicious cycle. Matira ang matibay. So GMA has the support of the masa. If not, she would have been gone when the first impeachment was filed against her. The last rally against cha cha called by two top Catholic Bishops, supported by three aspring Presdients: Legarda, Roxas and Lacson - did not get the support of the people. If was a dismal.
GMA is a strong leader and the duly elected President to the detriment of Ms LA.
why should she jump out from her stolen power when there is plenty of money to be made. She didn't stole her title twice for nothing!
Korea Basher

Quezon, Philippines

#44 Jan 4, 2009
I am sorry.
I really am a retard. and a bastard.
The truth is I hate koreans. because my mom is a prostitute before from angeles. and she's still there... and i was born a bastard.
my mom says my father is korean. but is not so sure. i am not so sure because i am so damn pangit. all koreans are handsome as we all know.
i hate him because he left me, and i don't look like a korean.
i hate ALL koreans! the bastard makers!!!!
but i like kimchee. i guess i really am a korean.
but then again, I might be indonesian, vietnamese, malaysian,... or even a 100% filipino...
but one thing's for certain. I am a bastard.
and I am SORRY!!!!!
Gabbo Bodega

Philippines

#45 Jan 5, 2009
Biggest thieves wrote:
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why should she jump out from her stolen power when there is plenty of money to be made. She didn't stole her title twice for nothing!
Mr. Erap have the same opportunity and perhaps the desire to hold the power, but Gloria is really much more witty and a stronger than her opponents.
Gabbo Bodega

Philippines

#46 Jan 5, 2009
Korea Basher wrote:
I am sorry.
I really am a retard. and a bastard.
The truth is I hate koreans. because my mom is a prostitute before from angeles. and she's still there... and i was born a bastard.
my mom says my father is korean. but is not so sure. i am not so sure because i am so damn pangit. all koreans are handsome as we all know.
i hate him because he left me, and i don't look like a korean.
i hate ALL koreans! the bastard makers!!!!
but i like kimchee. i guess i really am a korean.
but then again, I might be indonesian, vietnamese, malaysian,... or even a 100% filipino...
but one thing's for certain. I am a bastard.
and I am SORRY!!!!!
You really have the right for your own cause
arthur

Philippines

#47 Jan 5, 2009
Gabbo Bodega wrote:
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Mr. Erap have the same opportunity and perhaps the desire to hold the power, but Gloria is really much more witty and a stronger than her opponents.
Nothing happens here without the blessings of the US. The Lozada incident almost did her in. The silence from the US Embassy was ..lack of support.

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Since: Apr 07

Toledo OH

#48 Jan 30, 2009
Gabbo Bodega wrote:
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You have a very intellectual understanding on human behavior. I happened to scan on the history of the barbarians that sacked the ancient Roman empire. Example the Visigoths, are once peace loving people but were forced to destroy rome because they were deprived with their basic needs and rights.
So the case in the Philippines is an after effect of the World War II where Filipinos resort to deception to survive and the only rule that prevailed in that time is "don't get caught". Unfortunately US grant us independence immediately without evaluating if we are capable of governing ourselves.
So I think our law, especially our constitution is not fitted for Filipinos
A democracy with a constitution can be a good thing for any people, even Iraq or Afganistan, so it certainly can work in the Philippines easier than in those middle eastern countries. The only thing that will turn it around in the Philippines is if the government starts paying more attention to the poor and the starving plus put a lot of money into infrastructure like schools, water, sewer, phone systems, internet, etc. Then people will not be "starving" for everything that the rest of the world has. Then their desire to be corrupt might actually calm down over the next couple generations.
marcell

United States

#49 Jan 31, 2009
arthur wrote:
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Nothing happens here without the blessings of the US. The Lozada incident almost did her in. The silence from the US Embassy was ..lack of support.
..you pignoys are all the same....full of excuses..
Danny

Phoenix, AZ

#50 Feb 18, 2009
This country is gone, their culture, natural resources, everything, destroyed by its own people. kanilang mga ugali, inggit, siraan, crab mentality. Nobody' fault but all of you. You deserve it. I worked with lots of engineers like you, studied with all of you and I know how disgusting you all are in terms of behavior. No respect with each other. No matter what school you came from, educated or not
timemaster

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#51 Feb 18, 2009
Timothy wrote:
The fact of the matter was during this period the country was under American influence.A majority of the young professionals looked to the American model as a possibility for a democratic and capitalistic society.
Unfortunately most were disposed of by the ruling elite whom are offspring from the Spanish that ruled for hundreds of years.The country has reverted back to this Spanish influence and as we know,every country that is a result of the Spanish
conquest is a failed, corrupt society.
Name one that isn't.
agree that spanish rule sucks bigtime but remember even southwestern america was under spanish rule. it is unwise to blame another country for your own woes.
timemaster

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#52 Feb 19, 2009
Danny wrote:
This country is gone, their culture, natural resources, everything, destroyed by its own people. kanilang mga ugali, inggit, siraan, crab mentality. Nobody' fault but all of you. You deserve it. I worked with lots of engineers like you, studied with all of you and I know how disgusting you all are in terms of behavior. No respect with each other. No matter what school you came from, educated or not
happy to be in america and start lambasting pinoys. with my fellow man i have no problems but the big issue is with the useless government. hope you never have to come back to the phi.
Nonoy

Philippines

#53 Feb 19, 2009
Danny wrote:
This country is gone, their culture, natural resources, everything, destroyed by its own people. kanilang mga ugali, inggit, siraan, crab mentality. Nobody' fault but all of you. You deserve it. I worked with lots of engineers like you, studied with all of you and I know how disgusting you all are in terms of behavior. No respect with each other. No matter what school you came from, educated or not
what country?
Houston guy

Houston, TX

#54 Apr 30, 2009
so when is Manny Pacquiao running for President of the Philippines????
cuz from what Ive seen he's the most unifying Pinoy in the last 110 years. hey, if Erap got it and GMA stole it, twice, WHY NOT PAC MAN!?!?!!

he doesnt suffer from "foot in mouth" disease like typical moron TRAPO.

IM SURE he could a much better job than any President this side of Marcos.....
Houston guy

Houston, TX

#55 Apr 30, 2009
Ive talked to people on both sides of the equation.
Fil-Ams sa states and Pinoys sa Pinas.
the problem with the Philippines....
IS FILIPINOS.....
cant blame the politicians for everything, guys.
(even though they have alot to do with it).
bad policies are bad policies......
but it starts with attitudinal changes....
Heaven help us

United States

#56 May 2, 2009
Visaya wrote:
True, corruption is rampant in PI but everybody is aware of it. In contrast with Madoff, it was shocking. Nobody in his organization was good enough to blow the whistle. He could not do it alone. 47-billion dollars? Now one investor could not accept it and just committeed suicide. How about the rest of the investors?
The good thing, the banks and private businesses in PI are run by intelligent and disciplined people.(Not all may be. But there is a "check and balance within the organization). They don't have CEOS' who got millions for bonuses and private jets to attend meetings. They do not get bonuses if the bank and/or businesses they're running are losing money. But some private firms like the company where I worked with before in PI would give "profit sharing", 13th month pay, sick leave refund, christmas bonuses during Christmas. These if the company made some profits. So all of us employees and workers worked very hard. Discipline was definitely observed. But there are always exception to the rule. There are scammers and corrupt people especially in Congress, Senate and government entities.
Failure is not PI. The motto of almost all Filipinos is: Hope! The government is doing all means to meet all the challenges against the global meltdown. They're now ready with a budget to fund its stimulus funds next year.
67% Filipinos agreed that they have a merry Christimas. Government employees got a bonus of 200.00 dollars. HUndreds of thousands went shopping overwhelming crowd in all malls and supermarket. People have money to spend.
PI is not a failure but it is standing strong and HOPE is the best to describe it. Hope especially if those who will run for President and government positions are as good as Benigno, Jose, Lorenzo Ruiz and Andres Bonifacio!
Visaya: Madoff got catch, He went to jail. While in the Philippines even if you got catch stealing/killing you still can became the FAKE PRESIDENT, Just like Gloria Arroyo! In the Philippines crimes pay! This is one of the reason why the Philippines never get out from under. This is one of the reason why Gloria Arroyo, Et. Al. Are doing everything in their power to stay in power forever, Because there is plenty of money to be made. They're not there to serve and protect the filipino people but to STEAL FROM THE TAXESPAYER'S AS WE ALL CAN SEE IT. Truth is there for everyone to see if you can't see it, Them you're blind not to see the truth.

Since: May 09

United States

#57 May 17, 2009
What happened to the Philippines?

Cold War politics.

Marcos was playing the USSR against the U.S. and wound up burning the country.

How?

For starters, there was a war in Vietnam in the 1960's and 1970's. The north was communist, and the south was America's ally.

The bases in Angeles and Subic were critical to the US and Marcos kept on extorting more money for the lease of those bases to the point that President Lyndon Johnson wanted to have nothing to do him.

Naturally, America would pay any price at the time.

If Marcos could get away with that, then staging an assassination attempt on Defense Secretary Juan Ponce Enrile, blaming it on communists, and then declaring Martial Law to perpetuate himself in power would be okay with the Americans, too.

(Remember also that bloodshed was averted in the EDSA revolution of 1986 because America ended its support of Marcos, and granted him exile...it was still Cold War politics. Marcos outlived his usefulness and became a liability)

Marcos was especially a toxic figure because of what he set in motion and the legacy still felt today. For one thing he ended the term limit legacy of past presidents and became a dictator. He created a new constitution in the early in 1970s to sanction and legitimize his handiwork.

Now a new one was written in 1987. It is still not good enough so now they want to have charter change.

Another legacy of the Cold War impact in the Philippines was the "dirty war". Student and labor leaders, journalists, academics, other activists were killed, exiled, ruined. It is still going on to this day. You would think this would be a thing of the past.(A dirty war took place in Argentina, Chile and Brazil during the same time, but as far as I know those countries to do that anymore)

So the problem is bigger than it realizes. There is corruption in the US, too, but America moves on, metes out justice, and not crippled by it unlike the Philippines.

The difference is that the rule of law in the Philippines is bent to suit one's needs or whim. And Marcos was the big kahuna as far as having one's whims met goes (his people killed Ninoy Aquino, and still no mastermind after 26 years).

If you don't have the rule of law, then anything goes.

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Since: Apr 07

Toledo OH

#58 Jun 28, 2009
baluca wrote:
What happened to the Philippines?
Cold War politics.
Marcos was playing the USSR against the U.S. and wound up burning the country...
Well said and intelligently presented! I agree completely but... that's old news from upwards of 70 years ago and the Philippines has had plenty of opportunities to pull out of the downward spiral in 70 years.

Yes there were many places to stumble, a reign of dictatorship and lots of corruption that still exists at some level but I believe the condition of the RP today is partially caused by the people feeling little or no hope for their futures in comparison to the rest of the world - unless they can miraculously escape to another country where prosperity is.

I feel it is a lack of grassroots action from those who would like a better life by honest means. I don't mean useless protests by radicals. I mean all common people doing something positive for their own little area of the country. Something as small as painting city-owned buildings in a town or village could inject new pride. A mayor could, let's say, request Manila to send 400 gallons of durable outdoor paint in 10 different bright colors to be delivered 40 gallons at a time (to reduce theft and selling it illegally). Hire 10 men, by the building and not by the hour, to paint the buildings.

The goal is to have community pride started by community government so residents get infected by cleanup fever. Cleanup fever in poorer parts of the RP is non-existent today but it was there generations ago. Cleanup leads to community pride. Community pride leads to personal pride. Personal pride leads to personal betterment. Personal betterment leads to more community betterment which leads to better morals, more honesty, and less crime and graft. This is all an upward spiral.

Government plans for improvement always include favoritism. So prosperous places get more prosperous while poor places with no voice to be heard remain poor. It's time to have a voice.
Roy Fabros

Thunder Bay, Canada

#59 Dec 27, 2011
The Philippine Case is hopeless.No other option but down, down, down. The worst that can happen to any people is to have a culture of corruption

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