What Happened to the Philippines? Fro...

What Happened to the Philippines? From Leader-of-the-Pack in the '60s to Bottom of the Heap Today

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There is this well-known story, or urban legend as some might call it, about frogs that says if you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will immediately jump out.

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Gloria Kawatan

Paramount, CA

#1 Dec 24, 2008
What happen to them? The old die, And the young become the most corrupt people! Thats what happen. CORRUPTION IN THE PHILIPPINES IS A WAY OF LIFE!
marcell

United States

#2 Dec 24, 2008
Gloria Kawatan wrote:
What happen to them? The old die, And the young become the most corrupt people! Thats what happen. CORRUPTION IN THE PHILIPPINES IS A WAY OF LIFE!
..its in the blood baby..!!!

“News & Views”

Since: Apr 07

Toledo OH

#3 Dec 24, 2008
I noticed this phenomenon when I visited the Philippines in 2006 and 2007. It looked like the storefronts, commercial buildings, homes, etc. were made well of concrete block, steel support framing, etc.(just like they would be in the U.S.) LONG AGO but all were delapidated, the roofs were caved in or gone, the parking lots and driveways were gone and mud replaced them, and windows were broken out or completely stolen with the frames intact.

As we drove for miles in a taxi past these buildings, I immediately started envisioning what these structures looked like in their "heyday" and how beautiful the area could be -and probably was at one time.

But lack of occupants, lack of maintenance, lack of anything to keep the buildings from falling into disprepair showed the fairly rapid decline from a reasonably robust economy to absolute poverty.

I was saddened by this but since corruption abounds in the RP at every social level from top government officials right down to anybody who has anything to sell (even pieces of fruit on the street or a taxi ride) there is no way to resolve the problem and bring back prosperity.

Even an infusion of billions of dollars by foreign investors would be eaten up by corrupt government, corrupt contractors, corrupt workers, etc. and not help the good and honest people of the RP at all.

I tell my wife regularly (she's from Mindanao) that the RP has the physical potential to be another Hawaii but bigger and better, but that the poverty and corruption there will assure that it never happens. Sad...
Timothy

United States

#4 Dec 24, 2008
The fact of the matter was during this period the country was under American influence.A majority of the young professionals looked to the American model as a possibility for a democratic and capitalistic society.
Unfortunately most were disposed of by the ruling elite whom are offspring from the Spanish that ruled for hundreds of years.The country has reverted back to this Spanish influence and as we know,every country that is a result of the Spanish
conquest is a failed, corrupt society.

Name one that isn't.
Just going to visit

Paramount, CA

#5 Dec 24, 2008
MarcoMarks wrote:
I noticed this phenomenon when I visited the Philippines in 2006 and 2007. It looked like the storefronts, commercial buildings, homes, etc. were made well of concrete block, steel support framing, etc.(just like they would be in the U.S.) LONG AGO but all were delapidated, the roofs were caved in or gone, the parking lots and driveways were gone and mud replaced them, and windows were broken out or completely stolen with the frames intact.
As we drove for miles in a taxi past these buildings, I immediately started envisioning what these structures looked like in their "heyday" and how beautiful the area could be -and probably was at one time.
But lack of occupants, lack of maintenance, lack of anything to keep the buildings from falling into disprepair showed the fairly rapid decline from a reasonably robust economy to absolute poverty.
I was saddened by this but since corruption abounds in the RP at every social level from top government officials right down to anybody who has anything to sell (even pieces of fruit on the street or a taxi ride) there is no way to resolve the problem and bring back prosperity.
Even an infusion of billions of dollars by foreign investors would be eaten up by corrupt government, corrupt contractors, corrupt workers, etc. and not help the good and honest people of the RP at all.
I tell my wife regularly (she's from Mindanao) that the RP has the physical potential to be another Hawaii but bigger and better, but that the poverty and corruption there will assure that it never happens. Sad...
Marco: Correct ka diyan! This is one of the reason why the Philippines never get out from under because of CORRUPTION. NO ENDING CORRUPTION. And the people who you think can serve and protect the filipino people the one doing the blunder.

My advice since you're no longer living in the Philippines don't go back to live, Otherwise you've eating with corrupt people around you.
Fricking Filipino

San Jose, CA

#6 Dec 24, 2008
First of all, the article is a worthless piece of garbage. It just mentioned what the Philippines were and what it is now. It did not mention the causality of its downfall.

Second, it is easy to blame corrupt politicians as the main cause of the problem.

Instead of looking at others as the cause of failure, we should start looking at ourselves. What is our role in making Philippines better and are we doing it? That is the one question that we all must answer.

Forget the past. Let it go. We have to move on and just take things one step at a time. What were good in the 60s might not all apply to the present anyway.
arthur

Philippines

#7 Dec 24, 2008
Instead of looking at others as the cause of failure, we should start looking at ourselves. What is our role in making Philippines better and are we doing it? That is the one question that we all must answer.

Searching for a Filipino. A Jose, a Benigno ...
Visaya

United States

#8 Dec 25, 2008
True, corruption is rampant in PI but everybody is aware of it. In contrast with Madoff, it was shocking. Nobody in his organization was good enough to blow the whistle. He could not do it alone. 47-billion dollars? Now one investor could not accept it and just committeed suicide. How about the rest of the investors?

The good thing, the banks and private businesses in PI are run by intelligent and disciplined people.(Not all may be. But there is a "check and balance within the organization). They don't have CEOS' who got millions for bonuses and private jets to attend meetings. They do not get bonuses if the bank and/or businesses they're running are losing money. But some private firms like the company where I worked with before in PI would give "profit sharing", 13th month pay, sick leave refund, christmas bonuses during Christmas. These if the company made some profits. So all of us employees and workers worked very hard. Discipline was definitely observed. But there are always exception to the rule. There are scammers and corrupt people especially in Congress, Senate and government entities.

Failure is not PI. The motto of almost all Filipinos is: Hope! The government is doing all means to meet all the challenges against the global meltdown. They're now ready with a budget to fund its stimulus funds next year.

67% Filipinos agreed that they have a merry Christimas. Government employees got a bonus of 200.00 dollars. HUndreds of thousands went shopping overwhelming crowd in all malls and supermarket. People have money to spend.

PI is not a failure but it is standing strong and HOPE is the best to describe it. Hope especially if those who will run for President and government positions are as good as Benigno, Jose, Lorenzo Ruiz and Andres Bonifacio!



Gloria Kawatan

Paramount, CA

#9 Dec 25, 2008
Fricking Filipino wrote:
First of all, the article is a worthless piece of garbage. It just mentioned what the Philippines were and what it is now. It did not mention the causality of its downfall.
Second, it is easy to blame corrupt politicians as the main cause of the problem.
Instead of looking at others as the cause of failure, we should start looking at ourselves. What is our role in making Philippines better and are we doing it? That is the one question that we all must answer.
Forget the past. Let it go. We have to move on and just take things one step at a time. What were good in the 60s might not all apply to the present anyway.
You got your wish, To let go the past and tackle the future. At the present time most filipinos are crooks! Especially the one squatting in Malacanyang Palace! THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON WHY THE PHILIPPINES NEVER GET OUT FROM UNDER. She is a bad example!
No hope in sight

Paramount, CA

#10 Dec 25, 2008
arthur wrote:
Instead of looking at others as the cause of failure, we should start looking at ourselves. What is our role in making Philippines better and are we doing it? That is the one question that we all must answer.
Searching for a Filipino. A Jose, a Benigno ...
Sorry, You well never find what your looking for: And if you do, And the elites don't like that person they're going to kick these person without any due process of the law; Just like what they did to the duly elected President Joseph Estrada. And install their Philippines of choice, Who in turn keep robbing the government coffer. And get away with it. Because she is protected by the corrupt judiary! Philippines well never get out from under for as long as the same corrupt people running the country.
arthur

Philippines

#11 Dec 25, 2008
No hope in sight wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, You well never find what your looking for: And if you do, And the elites don't like that person they're going to kick these person without any due process of the law; Just like what they did to the duly elected President Joseph Estrada. And install their Philippines of choice, Who in turn keep robbing the government coffer. And get away with it. Because she is protected by the corrupt judiary! Philippines well never get out from under for as long as the same corrupt people running the country.
I ran into a mirror and I saw you.
Corrupt justice system

Paramount, CA

#12 Dec 26, 2008
SC stops Senate probe on 'Hello Garci' controversy.
..........
The supreme court stopping the probe on "HELLO GARCI" Because they knows that Gloria Arroyo, Is guilty! Guilty of stealing the votes against Fernando Poe, Jr. In May 10, 2004. Presidential election. They're stopping the probe because that is the only way they can protect Gloria Arroyo, Into her stolen power.

They did it the same thing with Erap, They convict him without any due process of the law; Its been proven in court of law that he is not guilty. But The convict him even though they knows that he is not guilty of any crimes. Because that is the only way they can protect Gloria Arroyo!
..........
The Supreme Court (SC) on Tuesday stopped the Senate investigation centered on the "Hello Garci" tapes but at the same time ruled it may call for a new inquiry if it completes the constitutionally-mandated publication requirement of its Rules of Procedure.

A Supreme Court statement said High Court voted 8-6 on the petition filed by retired Court of Appeals justices Santiago Rañada and Oswaldo Agcaoili who had asked the court to stop the Senate inquiry and the other petition filed by former elections commissioner Virgilio Garcillano who wanted the court to stop the playing of the tapes in the House of Representatives.
Visaya

United States

#13 Dec 26, 2008
arthur wrote:
<quoted text>
I ran into a mirror and I saw you.
Yes you're right. She is the most hopeless person in the Universe.
Visaya

United States

#14 Dec 26, 2008
Let's say the government like GMA is a frog. Inspite of all demands, non-ending impeachment cases and corruption cases of her government, she is holding firmly and would not jump out. While the oppositions who were voted out, are still trying hard by all means to jump in.....

It's a vicious cycle. Matira ang matibay. So GMA has the support of the masa. If not, she would have been gone when the first impeachment was filed against her. The last rally against cha cha called by two top Catholic Bishops, supported by three aspring Presdients: Legarda, Roxas and Lacson - did not get the support of the people. If was a dismal.

GMA is a strong leader and the duly elected President to the detriment of Ms LA.
Fake president of cebu

Paramount, CA

#15 Dec 26, 2008
Visaya wrote:
Let's say the government like GMA is a frog. Inspite of all demands, non-ending impeachment cases and corruption cases of her government, she is holding firmly and would not jump out. While the oppositions who were voted out, are still trying hard by all means to jump in.....
It's a vicious cycle. Matira ang matibay. So GMA has the support of the masa. If not, she would have been gone when the first impeachment was filed against her. The last rally against cha cha called by two top Catholic Bishops, supported by three aspring Presdients: Legarda, Roxas and Lacson - did not get the support of the people. If was a dismal.
GMA is a strong leader and the duly elected President to the detriment of Ms LA.
Gloria Arroyo, Don't have mandate from filipino people because she only stole her title from the duly elected President Joseph Estrada, And she stole it again from Fernando Poe, Jr. In May 10, 2004. Presidential election. She is nothing but the biggest THIEF.

The reason nobody can get rid of her because she is supported by the CORRUPT PNP/AFP/JUDIARY/EVIL SOCIETY, Not by the poor people. Truth is there for everyone to see.

The reason they never succeeded on the impeachment case against her because her, Because she bought all her corrupt cronies. In order to protect her from her stolen power!
arthur

Philippines

#16 Dec 26, 2008
Say good night. Turn the lights off. But wake up. 2010 is just a year awaaaaaay!!!

President Obama is unlikely as supportive as President Bush was to corrupt regimes.
Gloria Kawatan

Paramount, CA

#17 Dec 26, 2008
arthur wrote:
Say good night. Turn the lights off. But wake up. 2010 is just a year awaaaaaay!!!
President Obama is unlikely as supportive as President Bush was to corrupt regimes.
Yeah, Sure! Art. If I ever close my eyes when they time I wake-up! Gloria Arroyo, Will be in power forever. No way jose.
Ewat

Maria, Philippines

#18 Dec 26, 2008
I got it now…perhaps corruption takes three to tango; The Briber, The Taker and Us, The Fence Sitters.

I humbly suggest, to all our kababayans who are now living abroad to stop remitting your precious dollars; you’re indirectly subsidizing a corrupt regime. Uproot your relatives instead.

Sa lahat ng Pinoy dito sa Pinas;
•Delay/stop paying taxes
•Boycott products/services of this regimes cronies
Heaven help us

Paramount, CA

#19 Dec 27, 2008
Ewat wrote:
I got it now…perhaps corruption takes three to tango; The Briber, The Taker and Us, The Fence Sitters.
I humbly suggest, to all our kababayans who are now living abroad to stop remitting your precious dollars; you’re indirectly subsidizing a corrupt regime. Uproot your relatives instead.
Sa lahat ng Pinoy dito sa Pinas;
•Delay/stop paying taxes
•Boycott products/services of this regimes cronies
What your asking for will never happen, Because most of pinoy's go abroad to work in order to support their family. If they're not going to send money back home they're going to starve to death thats for sure.

But there is something they can do by not supporting these crooks! Because if they do they're the one going to suffer. Its hard but it can be done.
Bogus regime

Paramount, CA

#20 Dec 28, 2008
Visaya wrote:
Let's say the government like GMA is a frog. Inspite of all demands, non-ending impeachment cases and corruption cases of her government, she is holding firmly and would not jump out. While the oppositions who were voted out, are still trying hard by all means to jump in.....
It's a vicious cycle. Matira ang matibay. So GMA has the support of the masa. If not, she would have been gone when the first impeachment was filed against her. The last rally against cha cha called by two top Catholic Bishops, supported by three aspring Presdients: Legarda, Roxas and Lacson - did not get the support of the people. If was a dismal.
GMA is a strong leader and the duly elected President to the detriment of Ms LA.
Yes, she's going strong because she's supported by the CORRUPT PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE JUDIARY! They're protecting her no matter what it cost because if she go down they're going down with her.

And yes! Nobody can bring her down because any case throw at her its been cover-up by her corrupt cronies. IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE WHY SUPRESS THE TRUTH. Truth of the matter is they're guilty to the core! GLORIA ARROYO, SHOULD BE IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONG BUT THAT WELL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE SHE CONTROL THE ENTIRE CORRUPT JUSTICE SYSTEM.

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