STUDY: Military Men Twice As Likely To Be Transgender Than Civilians

Jul 27, 2012 Full story: Queerty 7

A new report indicates U.S. service members born biologically male are twice as likely as civilians to identify as female.

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#1 Jul 27, 2012
Complete NONSENSE.

Since: Apr 10

Parker, CO

#2 Jul 28, 2012
STEPHMAR wrote:
Complete NONSENSE.
Actualy this is very true, MTF (Male to Female) trans people tend to go through whats called Male protest, a stage where they try to deny who they really are by doing ultra "manly" things such as millitary service, construction work, truck driving, oil field work, auto mechanics, etc . I myself am MTF and do Suicide prevention within the Trans community, out of all the people I have talked to all the MTFs I have helped the Millitary has the highst percentage out of all the industrys out there (I know this is ancodotal but it helps illistrate my point) I know former fighter pilots, aircraft crew cheifs,EOD, Navy seals, Rangers, and even a couple of former millitary docters who are MTF.
I went through the Male Protest stage myself, went to avaition maintance school and then tried to join the Air Force (didnt get in do to comoplactions of a broken wrist from several years prior) its just something that happens, once a MTF comes to terms with themselves they tend to do much better at life than they had before.

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#3 Jul 29, 2012
JessicaDawn wrote:
<quoted text>Actualy this is very true, MTF (Male to Female) trans people tend to go through whats called Male protest, a stage where they try to deny who they really are by doing ultra "manly" things such as millitary service, construction work, truck driving, oil field work, auto mechanics, etc . I myself am MTF and do Suicide prevention within the Trans community, out of all the people I have talked to all the MTFs I have helped the Millitary has the highst percentage out of all the industrys out there (I know this is ancodotal but it helps illistrate my point) I know former fighter pilots, aircraft crew cheifs,EOD, Navy seals, Rangers, and even a couple of former millitary docters who are MTF.
I went through the Male Protest stage myself, went to avaition maintance school and then tried to join the Air Force (didnt get in do to comoplactions of a broken wrist from several years prior) its just something that happens, once a MTF comes to terms with themselves they tend to do much better at life than they had before.
I stand corrected,thank you.

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#4 Jul 29, 2012
JessicaDawn wrote:
<quoted text>Actualy this is very true, MTF (Male to Female) trans people tend to go through whats called Male protest, a stage where they try to deny who they really are by doing ultra "manly" things such as millitary service, construction work, truck driving, oil field work, auto mechanics, etc . I myself am MTF and do Suicide prevention within the Trans community, out of all the people I have talked to all the MTFs I have helped the Millitary has the highst percentage out of all the industrys out there (I know this is ancodotal but it helps illistrate my point) I know former fighter pilots, aircraft crew cheifs,EOD, Navy seals, Rangers, and even a couple of former millitary docters who are MTF.
I went through the Male Protest stage myself, went to avaition maintance school and then tried to join the Air Force (didnt get in do to comoplactions of a broken wrist from several years prior) its just something that happens, once a MTF comes to terms with themselves they tend to do much better at life than they had before.
I myself didn't go through a Male Protest stage;but,your article is very informative.From my very youth,I knew I wasn't male;my parents would often say that they "don't know who I take after?"I am now just coming out;and,you are correct,I do feel much more comfortable with myself.I am confused why the Transgender community needs suicide prevention?Also,Jessica,may I ask you,how many of these women have had full GRS or are considering it?I am comfortable with the penis.I don't miss the constant urge to masturbate,like when I was young without HRT.I have pretty all natural breasts,38C.I would like D.I always get upset when I read someone saying that we choose to be T-women.I reply"why would anyone choose to become a women in any Society?"It is painful,insecure;and,above all,very very dangerous.
However,I would not want it any other way.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#5 Jul 29, 2012
The book and brown are spot on! Two personal friends were a tunnel rat in Viet Nam and a army intell officer in Desert Storm. Another is the British Para officer, Capt. Jan Hamilton and American Col, Diane Schroer. I have never met a TS who didn't list military history as one of their favorite subjects. I was 4F at the time of Viet Nam or I would have come home with a bunch of medals or in a box. Since then, I have taken up another favored TS pastime, Flying. I think I'm the only Pilot who ever worked in a mine!
Regards, Terri

Since: Apr 10

Parker, CO

#6 Jul 29, 2012
STEPHMAR wrote:
<quoted text>I myself didn't go through a Male Protest stage;but,your article is very informative.From my very youth,I knew I wasn't male;my parents would often say that they "don't know who I take after?"I am now just coming out;and,you are correct,I do feel much more comfortable with myself.I am confused why the Transgender community needs suicide prevention?Also,Jessica,may I ask you,how many of these women have had full GRS or are considering it?I am comfortable with the penis.I don't miss the constant urge to masturbate,like when I was young without HRT.I have pretty all natural breasts,38C.I would like D.I always get upset when I read someone saying that we choose to be T-women.I reply"why would anyone choose to become a women in any Society?"It is painful,insecure;and,above all,very very dangerous.
However,I would not want it any other way.
The Trans community needs alot of suicide prevention as the suicide rate is over 30%, infact a full 50% of trans people attempt suicide by their 20th birthday. This extreamly high rate is due alot to the views that the public has on trans people, they get fired, they dont get hired for jobs, they get kicked out of housing and refused housing, Many trans kids/teenagers get kicked out of their home when they come out to their parents, they are bullied at school , they are threatened by adults (see all the trans murders and trans attacks where the perp use the trans panic defence and it worked) and they are just plan made fun of in public (Trans is one of the few communities that it is still PC to make horrible jokes about) Many get very depressed when their transition goes much slower than they would like (many trans people in "public health care" countrys have to wait years before even being able to go to a gender therapist for the first time) or just normal everyday things that everyone else faces is just made much worse whe one is already depressed due to being trans (the straw that broke the camels back) I myself was very depressed for over a decade due to my being trans before everything else just piled too much on and I ended up in the ER getting a UA&BA to see if i was high or drunk following a near suicide attempt to make sure it would be safe for a mental health councler to talk to me. I started gender threapy a few days later and a few months later I earned my suicide prevention certs and started doing suicide prevention on the webs only trans support and suicide prevention site. Just a few numbers for you. In the nearly 9 years that site has been running we have had nearly 18,000 crisis chats (keep in mind those are just the ones that knew about our site, we still get between 10and 30 new people joining a day)
Keep in mind things like DADT is STILL in effect in the us millitary for trans people a medal of honor winner could be outed as trans and be discharged, and there are only 12 states and DC that has gender ideinty protection laws on the books so that is 38 states where TG people have zero protections, zero rights, they cant even pee in a public bathroom without the possibality of legal trouble.

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#7 Jul 29, 2012
JessicaDawn wrote:
<quoted text> The Trans community needs alot of suicide prevention as the suicide rate is over 30%, infact a full 50% of trans people attempt suicide by their 20th birthday. This extreamly high rate is due alot to the views that the public has on trans people, they get fired, they dont get hired for jobs, they get kicked out of housing and refused housing, Many trans kids/teenagers get kicked out of their home when they come out to their parents, they are bullied at school , they are threatened by adults (see all the trans murders and trans attacks where the perp use the trans panic defence and it worked) and they are just plan made fun of in public (Trans is one of the few communities that it is still PC to make horrible jokes about) Many get very depressed when their transition goes much slower than they would like (many trans people in "public health care" countrys have to wait years before even being able to go to a gender therapist for the first time) or just normal everyday things that everyone else faces is just made much worse whe one is already depressed due to being trans (the straw that broke the camels back) I myself was very depressed for over a decade due to my being trans before everything else just piled too much on and I ended up in the ER getting a UA&BA to see if i was high or drunk following a near suicide attempt to make sure it would be safe for a mental health councler to talk to me. I started gender threapy a few days later and a few months later I earned my suicide prevention certs and started doing suicide prevention on the webs only trans support and suicide prevention site. Just a few numbers for you. In the nearly 9 years that site has been running we have had nearly 18,000 crisis chats (keep in mind those are just the ones that knew about our site, we still get between 10and 30 new people joining a day)
Keep in mind things like DADT is STILL in effect in the us millitary for trans people a medal of honor winner could be outed as trans and be discharged, and there are only 12 states and DC that has gender ideinty protection laws on the books so that is 38 states where TG people have zero protections, zero rights, they cant even pee in a public bathroom without the possibality of legal trouble.
I wasn't aware the problem was that bad;especially among the young.Why is this?I remember as a youth,I was feminine looking;and,yes,many boys would tease me and say I was ugly.As I look back,I say to myself,"if I was ugly;then,they were more than goofy."I suppose this is mostly prejudice and bigotry.The female is and always will be the better half of Creation,in my opinion;and,despite everything,I will live and enter the next life female,and proud of this.In my opinion,other women dislike us to a degree,because of jealousy.We simply are very pretty with a much longer "shelf-life."I don't really know why men dislike us?I suppose some men simply dislike all women.They are indeed very goofy.What often 'depresses'me is that I do wish I had a vagina;along with my penis.I love my breasts.Very good talking with you.Thank you,Stephenie.

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