Ex-NFL QB to speak at Mormon conferen...

Ex-NFL QB to speak at Mormon conference on gays

There are 16 comments on the Star-Telegram.com story from Sep 13, 2013, titled Ex-NFL QB to speak at Mormon conference on gays. In it, Star-Telegram.com reports that:

Former NFL great Steve Young will be one of the keynote speakers at a three-day conference in Salt Lake City exploring how the Mormon faith is dealing with gays and lesbians.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 Sep 13, 2013
Mormons aren't Christians. Do not think that they are.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#2 Sep 13, 2013
It is so amusing to read of Mormon Church officials willing to accept homosexuals as long as they 'don't act on it.' In their ignorant minds, homosexuality is about nothing but sex, which gets them all excited and hot below the belt. No thought is given to the fact that homosexuals are genetically different from both 'straight' genders in a variety of ways.

Had society demanded from Michaelangelo not to 'act on it,' there would have been no Sistine Chapel, no statue of David, nor even a Pieta. Likewise with Leonardo da Vinci. Had he not 'acted on' his creative impulses, which were directly linked to his unique genetic makeup, we would have had neither the painting of the Last Supper nor even the celebrated Mona Lisa!!!

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#3 Sep 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Mormons aren't Christians. Do not think that they are.
They say they are. Their church is called the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. They claim to follow his teachings. The character appears in their scripture. From Wikipedia: Stated on the title page, The Book of Mormon's central purpose is for the "convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations."

I don't know what other qualifiers are necessary.

I take people at their word when they self-identify, and I respect the labels they've chosen. If they say they are, then they are.
Furman

Germany

#5 Sep 13, 2013
Umninimuzi wrote:
It is so amusing to read of Mormon Church officials willing to accept homosexuals as long as they 'don't act on it.' In their ignorant minds, homosexuality is about nothing but sex
It is! To be more specific BUTT-SEX! What else is it about?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Sep 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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They say they are. Their church is called the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. They claim to follow his teachings. The character appears in their scripture. From Wikipedia: Stated on the title page, The Book of Mormon's central purpose is for the "convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations."
I don't know what other qualifiers are necessary.
I take people at their word when they self-identify, and I respect the labels they've chosen. If they say they are, then they are.
Their claim to being Christians is very recent. For nearly their entire history (which isn't very long), the claimed that they weren't.

There are many reasons why Christians do not recognize the Mormons as Christians. ONE REASON (I'll only mention one reason out of many), is that The Mormons are NOT monotheistic as are all Christians. They are polytheistic. That alone sets them apart from being Christians.

No Christian denominations, be it Protestant, Orthodox, Roman catholic, nor others, recognize them as Christians. Because they aren't.

http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/are_mormo...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#8 Sep 13, 2013
Furman wrote:
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It is! To be more specific BUTT-SEX! What else is it about?
Life.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Sep 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Their claim to being Christians is very recent. For nearly their entire history (which isn't very long), the claimed that they weren't.
There are many reasons why Christians do not recognize the Mormons as Christians. ONE REASON (I'll only mention one reason out of many), is that The Mormons are NOT monotheistic as are all Christians. They are polytheistic. That alone sets them apart from being Christians.
No Christian denominations, be it Protestant, Orthodox, Roman catholic, nor others, recognize them as Christians. Because they aren't.
http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/are_mormo...
Could you BE more off-topic???

Who CARES what flavor of sectarian religionists they are. What matters is that they are a political and economic force that opposes us, and has opposed us to our great cost, and that of our families and friends.

I'm FAR more concerned that the NSA's national intelligence computer center is going to be in Provo. Who do you think will be working there with total access to EVERY bit and byte of EL-INT the country has? Southern Baptists?
qwerty26

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#10 Sep 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Their claim to being Christians is very recent. For nearly their entire history (which isn't very long), the claimed that they weren't.
There are many reasons why Christians do not recognize the Mormons as Christians. ONE REASON (I'll only mention one reason out of many), is that The Mormons are NOT monotheistic as are all Christians. They are polytheistic. That alone sets them apart from being Christians.
No Christian denominations, be it Protestant, Orthodox, Roman catholic, nor others, recognize them as Christians. Because they aren't.
http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/are_mormo...
And so what of it? Christianity has thousands of different little sects, all believing that they have the truth. This includes your chosen belief based on some guy who tacked his feces to a church door a few centuries ago (sorry, I have never been able to get that MAD magazine image from decades ago out of my mind of Martin Luther tacking his feces to the church door!).

There are also even more different belief systems once you get beyond the western christian traditions - all of which think that they have a corner on the truth. Can't some almighty deity (or deities) settle this once and for all for the world? Do something that I might believe in, like write the answer in the clouds. Ans: No, because there is no almighty deity or deities.

So you, the clever Fa-Foxy, can believe whatever you want, and everybody else can believe whatever they want, because bottom line is they, and you, will never be proven right, or wrong.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#11 Sep 13, 2013
Howie wrote:
<quoted text>Butt sex is disgusting, do queers really do each other up the butt?!?!
No -- like you, some queers are more interested in the vagina, specifically each other's. Duh!

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#12 Sep 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Their claim to being Christians is very recent. For nearly their entire history (which isn't very long), the claimed that they weren't.
I'm not stopping conversation to conduct research of every group mentioned, just so I can judge whether they've earned their title long enough.

Pluto was a planet for 76 years. It's only been a dwarf planet for 7, and although I once called it a planet along with everyone else, I wouldn’t call it anything other than a dwarf planet now.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
There are many reasons why Christians do not recognize the Mormons as Christians. ONE REASON (I'll only mention one reason out of many), is that The Mormons are NOT monotheistic as are all Christians. They are polytheistic. That alone sets them apart from being Christians.
Whenever I hear the definition of a Christian (FROM Christians), it's always "One who follows the teachings of Christ". Mormons do that, or at least THEY claim they do.

I'm also not about to try to figure out who's a "true" Christian and who isn't. What a tangle. It’s hard enough to take Christianity seriously as “monotheistic” when I hear about the Trinity, or “El” and “Elohim”.

I think that the MAIN reason Christians avoid recognizing Mormonism is that it's weird and different. That's understandable, although to outsiders it's ALL weird. It’s all supernaturalism. Jesus could show up tomorrow and say “Mormonism was right”. If the “rest” of Christianity doesn’t need anything more concrete than “faith” to back up their claims, then I don’t see why ANY AND ALL claims don’t have equal validity.

Ok, so, Mormons believe they will all turn into gods and live on planet Kolob, or whatever The many varied Christian sects have their oddities too. Transubstantiated cannibalism. Exorcisms. Snake handling. Christian Scientists, letting their kids die of the flu. Really? THEY’RE Christians, but Mormons aren’t?
Fa-Foxy wrote:
No Christian denominations, be it Protestant, Orthodox, Roman catholic, nor others, recognize them as Christians. Because they aren't.
http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/are_mormo...
So they cite the KJV Bible? Mormons cite that too. Mormons just have a little “extra”. So who’s right? Who ultimately gets to cite “authority”? Why are Mormons wrong? Your religion lacks the “extra” book. Maybe your religion is wrong because of that.

Hardly any mammals lay eggs, or have webbed feet. But a platypus is still a mammal. Bats and pangolins and orcas don’t get to exclude the platypus. To extend the Pluto analogy.

Again, I take people at their word when they self-identify. I couldn’t imagine having a conversation with a Mormon, and having it derail because I tried to tell them they aren’t Christians. I could remind them that OTHER Christians don’t consider them Christian, but then around and around we go. Why not? Because they say so. Why do they get to say so? The Bible. But the Book of Mormon says otherwise. And around and around. Freakin’ bibles, man. There will always be one too many.

I was amused by the heading of the site you sent me to. It says “Using the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV)”, with “Authorized Version” highlighted in bright purple. As if to dispel any crazy ideas that OTHER bibles might actually be considered authorized by someone. Authorized by whom? By the people who believe they're true, of course. Around and around.

Why should I feel like a WEBSITE is the correct and final authority? I don’t even think the Bible ITSELF has that much truth in it. What did you hope a site like that would prove to someone like me?

No disrespect, but ALL religions are simply SPECULATING about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. They seem to think that SOME people are qualified to provide a number of angels, but others are not. To me, nothing could be sillier. I would like to see all theists admit that they are all just equal GUESSERS, and nothing more.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#13 Sep 14, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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I'm not stopping conversation to conduct research of every group mentioned, just so I can judge whether they've earned their title long enough.
Pluto was a planet for 76 years. It's only been a dwarf planet for 7, and although I once called it a planet along with everyone else, I wouldn’t call it anything other than a dwarf planet now.
<quoted text>
Whenever I hear the definition of a Christian (FROM Christians), it's always "One who follows the teachings of Christ". Mormons do that, or at least THEY claim they do.
I'm also not about to try to figure out who's a "true" Christian and who isn't. What a tangle. It’s hard enough to take Christianity seriously as “monotheistic” when I hear about the Trinity, or “El” and “Elohim”.
I think that the MAIN reason Christians avoid recognizing Mormonism is that it's weird and different. That's understandable, although to outsiders it's ALL weird. It’s all supernaturalism. Jesus could show up tomorrow and say “Mormonism was right”. If the “rest” of Christianity doesn’t need anything more concrete than “faith” to back up their claims, then I don’t see why ANY AND ALL claims don’t have equal validity.
Ok, so, Mormons believe they will all turn into gods and live on planet Kolob, or whatever The many varied Christian sects have their oddities too. Transubstantiated cannibalism. Exorcisms. Snake handling. Christian Scientists, letting their kids die of the flu. Really? THEY’RE Christians, but Mormons aren’t?
<quoted text>
So they cite the KJV Bible? Mormons cite that too. Mormons just have a little “extra”. So who’s right? Who ultimately gets to cite “authority”? Why are Mormons wrong? Your religion lacks the “extra” book. Maybe your religion is wrong because of that.
Hardly any mammals lay eggs, or have webbed feet. But a platypus is still a mammal. Bats and pangolins and orcas don’t get to exclude the platypus. To extend the Pluto analogy.
Again, I take people at their word when they self-identify. I couldn’t imagine having a conversation with a Mormon, and having it derail because I tried to tell them they aren’t Christians. I could remind them that OTHER Christians don’t consider them Christian, but then around and around we go. Why not? Because they say so. Why do they get to say so? The Bible. But the Book of Mormon says otherwise. And around and around. Freakin’ bibles, man. There will always be one too many.
I was amused by the heading of the site you sent me to. It says “Using the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV)”, with “Authorized Version” highlighted in bright purple. As if to dispel any crazy ideas that OTHER bibles might actually be considered authorized by someone. Authorized by whom? By the people who believe they're true, of course. Around and around.
Why should I feel like a WEBSITE is the correct and final authority? I don’t even think the Bible ITSELF has that much truth in it. What did you hope a site like that would prove to someone like me?
No disrespect, but ALL religions are simply SPECULATING about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. They seem to think that SOME people are qualified to provide a number of angels, but others are not. To me, nothing could be sillier. I would like to see all theists admit that they are all just equal GUESSERS, and nothing more.
AMEN!!
Christsharian Law

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Sep 14, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Their claim to being Christians is very recent....
STFU, you ignorant blowhole.
Christsharian Law

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Sep 14, 2013
Is this conference by the Xenu people or the Kolob people?

Or is there a difference?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#20 Sep 14, 2013
Flordia Gator wrote:
Mormons religion is more along the lines of a cult. Everyone is suppose to live by certain rules and abide by the wishes of the man in charge. He dictates how they live.
They're Roman Catholics ?!
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Furlong, PA

#21 Sep 15, 2013
Flordia Gator wrote:
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Hey You filthy disgusting queer, you have more names than R1 have you had your pecker juice today?
This from a moron who spends his days in mommy's basement looking at internet porn and whacking off! Another Kleenex gator?

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#22 Sep 15, 2013
fr Flordia Gator:

>Hey You filthy disgusting queer, you have more names than R1 ...<

Who are you today? Are you "the 'Shadow'" or "stopper"?

Oh, and besides, you spelled a word wrong. It's "Florida", not "flordia", or whatever that is supposed to be.

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