Russia moves to enact anti-gay law nationwide

Jan 21, 2013 Full story: Sunherald.com 786

St. Petersburg and a number of other Russian cities already have similar laws on their books.

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Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#469 Jan 25, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
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Facist are even worse then commies.....Both are evil.....YUCK...
And what are you, a liberal demokrat? Go and attend a gay parade, is this you?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zAw-falQs4U/UP2ij3b...

“Waytogo”

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#472 Jan 25, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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And what are you, a liberal demokrat? Go and attend a gay parade, is this you?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zAw-falQs4U/UP2ij3b...
I am a TRUE CONSERVATIVE....I am a Libertarian...FREEDOM EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL......GET THE "ALL" PART?????????

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#473 Jan 25, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
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I am a TRUE CONSERVATIVE....I am a Libertarian...FREEDOM EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL......GET THE "ALL" PART?????????
Sound like a Commie.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#474 Jan 25, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Sound like a Commie.
No that would be like you..Youw ant to control peoples private lives.....A CONSERVATIVE WANTS EVERYONE TO RUN THERE OWN LIFE.....YOU KNOW FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#475 Jan 25, 2013
NoQ wrote:
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It's a felony as it should be. Hopefully this country will wise up before It's too late. Here's hoping you get your d:ck cut off, you nasty A$$ Fa$$ot.
wow... go figure NoIQ sides with a with a pig communist

“Waytogo”

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#476 Jan 25, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>wow... go figure NoIQ sides with a with a pig communist
It is wild these so called christians and so called good people always call fro war violence and hate and bigotry....SAD.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#477 Jan 25, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
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It is wild these so called christians and so called good people always call fro war violence and hate and bigotry....SAD.
i say we nuke them

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#478 Jan 25, 2013
American subhumans, gtfo, Americans are barely human beings, you are like animals, your culture, mentality is animalistic barbarian

“Waytogo”

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#479 Jan 25, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>i say we nuke them
No..Dont step to there level.:)

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#480 Jan 25, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
American subhumans, gtfo, Americans are barely human beings, you are like animals, your culture, mentality is animalistic barbarian
then stay over there dumbazz
Gays Run the World

Alpharetta, GA

#481 Jan 25, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
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Why is it more urgent?
Gays are jailed in Iran just for being gays.
We expect better from a declining nation; than we expect from a nation that has already hit bottom

“Hello. America? It's me.”

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Rostov-na-Donu

#482 Jan 25, 2013
I don't see post #392...=( why?

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#483 Jan 25, 2013
Israel Land of Trolls wrote:
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The U.S is not founded on any laws to either support nor codemn homosexuals.
What you support is against the U.S constitution.
The U.S was not founded on the right of Homosexuals to get special hate crime privilages.
They are "Not equal" rights.
Because only certain selected groups in the U.S get special hate crime protections that other groups don't get.
That is not equality of Government...
Maybe it is equality in the eyes of Left winger tards.... It isn't equality if only certain groups get special hate crime protections.
Do you know the difference between 1st and 2nd degree homocide?

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#484 Jan 25, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
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The most evil people are western imperialists.
The most evil people are ANY imperialists ... especially the ones who are also pretending to be something else.

But one also can be a real evil to one's own people.

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#485 Jan 25, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
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Why is it more urgent?
Gays are jailed in Iran just for being gays.
Because things could SO easily be different for gay people, and all people, in the Russian Federation.

Why is conformity and self-subjugation to authority such a primary component of your default state. is that why Russians generally drink so much? Having to live with the dissonance?

Millions of years of evolution all pointing to the glory of the individual just to become faceless in conformity?

Why do Russians need someone to control them? Can't they control themselves?

A police state is one geared to make the lives of those in power easier by limiting natural freedom.

I find the history of christendom to be fascinating because it demonstrates so many things about human nature and how humans structure their groups. It's essentially the same teachings, but each kind of person does very different things with it. There are patterns. The most frequent pattern is that which uses the teachings to try to control others. Among that type are those who use it as an excuse to oppress and even kill others. Usually, those are not the ones who actually follow the message of the teachings, but instead use the teachings as a prop for some cultural norm. One must then ask, are they worshiping the teacher and his teachings, or their own traditions and cultures. The latter is especially evident where oppression and violence are involved. Most of Christian history ... West and East ... Orthodox, Roman or Protestant displays this behavior. In many places, starting with Constantine, a sick and dysfunctional link between the purported followers of the teaching is forged, either and oppressive theonomy or an oppressive caesaropapism.

There is a trend in human social development, a conflict, that has been described by some as a struggle between the individual and the group.

What I have observed is that the best societies are those that allow as much individuality as can be managed pragmatically, with those in authority doing everything in their power to maintain it for as many as possible. From such societies and these individuals comes creativity.

True cooperation, like love, cannot be coerced. Neither can creativity.

We have a saying here in the U.S. about the horse that runs back into a burning barn, because it's stall means security. 2000 years ago, a man made an ignorant reference to a dog returning to it's vomit.

Also 2000 years ago, a great teacher spoke of the truth setting people free. The sad evidence of human history shows that there are those who would confuse others into believing that obeying them is freedom.

Do Russian REALLY distrust each other, their brothers and sisters, SO much that they think that without severe controls through Law and religion that they will be monsters? The only monsters I've seen are those that agree with that notion, use it as a rationale for controlling them ... and act against others accordingly.

We have them here, too. We have to fight against them continually.

That type WOULD like to "control" Russia, control her resources to feed their greed and lust for power. The solution to that type is MORE freedom wherever you can plant it and make it grow, not less. More inclusion. Not less. Greed is essentially fear and paranoid insecurity. More freedom makes them crazy.

The ideal of nobility is to protect the weak, and care for the least among us.

2000 years ago, a wise teacher said that he would build temple, an altar, out of "living stones". This was a play on words. "Living" stones are stones that are in their natural state as they have been found. They have not been cut into a conforming shape. He said that the proper offering upon such an altar was one's self. He did precisely that. A group of imperfect individuals, carefully fitted together with all their imperfections, that he lived and died for. Unchanged. As they were.

The controllers can't grasp that concept.

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#486 Jan 25, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
American subhumans, gtfo, Americans are barely human beings, you are like animals, your culture, mentality is animalistic barbarian
meow.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#487 Jan 25, 2013
Gays Run the World wrote:
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We expect better from a declining nation; than we expect from a nation that has already hit bottom
Russian GDP isgrowing faster than that of USA and it`s national debt is less than national currency reserves.

It looks like USA is declining in comparison with Russia.

Since: Mar 09

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#491 Jan 25, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
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No that would be like you..Youw ant to control peoples private lives.....A CONSERVATIVE WANTS EVERYONE TO RUN THERE OWN LIFE.....YOU KNOW FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!
Not the ones we got here, that's for sure.

They want "small government" ... just small enough to fit into people's personal lives and bedrooms.

I agree that there's a kind of person who have kidnapped the term "conservative", so we can't use it anymore. Libertarians are just selfish darwinists. So what terms do we have left?

Do you want a company to poison your ground water? Should people who do that to others be allowed to "live their own life"?

Should a gangster who dresses his kids in the finest clothes and gives them the finest toys, all paid for by the suffering of others, be allowed to "live their own life"?

How about the mobster who traffics in prostitution and slavery, and enslaves others through alcoholism and addiction?

I agree that Freedom of the individual is paramount. If you think about it, you'll see that those mentioned above ALL profit through stripping others of their freedom in one way or another.

Gay does not mean prostitute. It does not mean slave. It does not mean addict.

But what happens to ANYONE if the only place they are allowed to live is among the monsters above ... or starve and freeze to death.

Bring the gay kids out into the light and give them the opportunity to be free, and SEE what great and loving people they become. Don't beat them, reject them, abuse them, judge them. LOVE them.

Yes. FIGHT the sex traffickers and slave masters. Most of their victims aren't gay anyway ... just kids trying to survive in what's before them. Yes there ARE some gay sex traffickers, enslaving homeless youth, but far from all. Only a criminal few, really, who don';t really care if a kid is gay or hetero, but sells them anyway.

Oppressing gay people will NOT solve that problem. Keeping gay kids from learning that gay people can lead normal lives will not create more twisted slaves, but proud and productive people.

We really ARE seeing it here. We are seeing it a lot!

THESE are the people who must be taught that they are free, who must be given opportunities to grow and develop however their hearts and talents and dreams lead them.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#492 Jan 25, 2013
Why do you call Russia a default state?
Russian financial system is far from such a thing as default.
Certainly much farther than American one.
USA is 100s time closr to default than Russia.

All societies control their members.
I already wrote you - just try to ingnore trafic rules when police is near in your country.

All you want is enforcement of gay values on all the society.

All we want is enforcement of traditional values on all the society.

I think your society is in decline. That is why such things as gay marriages gay adoption exist in USA.

My take is that USA will collapse in several years or maybe even this year. American default will cause refusal from US dollars all over the world and since you can nothing to do but to print dollars you are doomed. You will be shocked to see how fast your so called allies will refuse from friandship with USA.
USA is doomed all right.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#495 Jan 25, 2013
Israel Land of Vampires wrote:
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I prefer Pinochet... Pincohet turned around Chile from the Communist disaster of Allende.
That means you are against democracy.
Allede was elected by the citizens of Chile and Pinochet was a military dictator.

Hugo Chavez was elected either.
The majority in Venezualla support Hugo Chavez.

I hope someone like Hugo will take his place if he will die.

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