Bisexuals, Transgender people left out of President Obama's inauguration speech

Jan 21, 2013 Full story: Examiner.com 19

There is an immense euphoria emanating from the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community today as President Barack Obama mentioned the Stonewall riots in his inauguration speech; an unquestionable landmark moment in the observation of LGBT history.

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Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#1 Jan 22, 2013
Oh Please! No more endless debates over the "values" of certain words. "Did he say Gay? or Transgender?"I for one, don't care what he said, I doubt anything of substance is going to happen.
Issues of substance;
Automatic free name change. When a woman is married, she gets an automatic name change of her last name, I want an automatic first name change with the change of the person's gender. Plus, Trans people don't need these fees at a time in their lives when they are most vulnerable.(Pa.$300 +)
Inclusion of SRS in the travesty of"Obamacare". They saw fit to exclude us from inclusion. Did Obama really mean it when he held out the implied promise of equality for the Transgendered? The hiring and promotion of two TSes in Civil service does not equality make!
Arthur

Anonymous Proxy

#3 Jan 22, 2013
TerryE wrote:
Oh Please! No more endless debates over the "values" of certain words. "Did he say Gay? or Transgender?"I for one, don't care what he said, I doubt anything of substance is going to happen.
Issues of substance;
Automatic free name change. When a woman is married, she gets an automatic name change of her last name, I want an automatic first name change with the change of the person's gender. Plus, Trans people don't need these fees at a time in their lives when they are most vulnerable.(Pa.$300 +)
Inclusion of SRS in the travesty of"Obamacare". They saw fit to exclude us from inclusion. Did Obama really mean it when he held out the implied promise of equality for the Transgendered? The hiring and promotion of two TSes in Civil service does not equality make!
You mad again bro?
bolbobaggins

Yuma, AZ

#4 Jan 22, 2013
Must have slipped his mind.I am sure he didn't mean to offend anyone.

Since: Jul 08

Roanoke, VA

#5 Jan 22, 2013
TerryE wrote:
Oh Please! No more endless debates over the "values" of certain words. "Did he say Gay? or Transgender?"I for one, don't care what he said, I doubt anything of substance is going to happen.
Issues of substance;
Automatic free name change. When a woman is married, she gets an automatic name change of her last name, I want an automatic first name change with the change of the person's gender. Plus, Trans people don't need these fees at a time in their lives when they are most vulnerable.(Pa.$300 +)
Inclusion of SRS in the travesty of"Obamacare". They saw fit to exclude us from inclusion. Did Obama really mean it when he held out the implied promise of equality for the Transgendered? The hiring and promotion of two TSes in Civil service does not equality make!
OMG!! Terry I'm so sick of hearing the trans community whine and cry every time someone mentions the "Gay" community and doesn't speak the word Transgender. It's high time the transgender community realizes they DON'T have the history the gay community has in fighting for civil rights nor do they have the numbers (as in number of people) to get national attention and lets not forget they don't have the money to get things done.

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. The Trans community should be getting use to the idea of being on their own because once DOMA falls which most likely will happen in the next four years the "Gay" agenda will be complete and it will be time to cut the coat tails so to speak which will stop the trans community from gaining recognition just from their association with the gay community.

Obama has been and will continue to be the most supportive president the lgbt community has ever known, his mention of the gay community was a first in history for an inaugural speech and has taken over thirty years to accomplish. It signifies a great leap forward in our social conscious so for you to whine just because the trans community wasn't mention is pretty petty in my opinion.
Likewise your whining and bitching about the healthcare law is just as pointless and your cry for free surgery and free name changes is typical of the trans community wanting something for nothing like it's societies responsibility to take care of you or help make your fantasy of being a women a reality Grow up take responsibility for yourself, set a goal and work towards it once there set another one thats how you get things done not be crying and whining oh poor me !

“Even an Ice Princess can melt.”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#6 Jan 22, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG!! Terry I'm so sick of hearing the trans community whine and cry every time someone mentions the "Gay" community and doesn't speak the word Transgender. It's high time the transgender community realizes they DON'T have the history the gay community has in fighting for civil rights nor do they have the numbers (as in number of people) to get national attention and lets not forget they don't have the money to get things done.
I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. The Trans community should be getting use to the idea of being on their own because once DOMA falls which most likely will happen in the next four years the "Gay" agenda will be complete and it will be time to cut the coat tails so to speak which will stop the trans community from gaining recognition just from their association with the gay community.
Obama has been and will continue to be the most supportive president the lgbt community has ever known, his mention of the gay community was a first in history for an inaugural speech and has taken over thirty years to accomplish. It signifies a great leap forward in our social conscious so for you to whine just because the trans community wasn't mention is pretty petty in my opinion.
Likewise your whining and bitching about the healthcare law is just as pointless and your cry for free surgery and free name changes is typical of the trans community wanting something for nothing like it's societies responsibility to take care of you or help make your fantasy of being a women a reality Grow up take responsibility for yourself, set a goal and work towards it once there set another one thats how you get things done not be crying and whining oh poor me !
Ok while i agree that the trans community whines too much about stupid things. I want to ask you something.

You say we don't have the history fighting for civil rights that they LGB community does. Who was it that threw the bottle at stonewall? I guess it wasn't a transgender woman as history states if we don't have the history that the gay community has.

The fact is we have been there with the LGB community every step of the way. However we are constantly in the back of the picture or on the sides were the pictures arent taken.

I ask you this. Which is worse being the one on the front lines fighting. Or the one who fights and then is forgotten to history because they are considered to be detrimental to the cause after they have fought?

In the end the LGB people will have equality long before transgender people do. Eventually we will have to fight for our equality even against LGB people we have to do it today.

I hope the LGB community become equal soon. But my community has along way to go and if history repeats itself it will be with little help from a community that our numbers have bolstered for a long time.

Since: Jul 08

Roanoke, VA

#7 Jan 22, 2013
Roisia wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok while i agree that the trans community whines too much about stupid things. I want to ask you something.
You say we don't have the history fighting for civil rights that they LGB community does. Who was it that threw the bottle at stonewall? I guess it wasn't a transgender woman as history states if we don't have the history that the gay community has.
The fact is we have been there with the LGB community every step of the way. However we are constantly in the back of the picture or on the sides were the pictures arent taken.
I ask you this. Which is worse being the one on the front lines fighting. Or the one who fights and then is forgotten to history because they are considered to be detrimental to the cause after they have fought?
In the end the LGB people will have equality long before transgender people do. Eventually we will have to fight for our equality even against LGB people we have to do it today.
I hope the LGB community become equal soon. But my community has along way to go and if history repeats itself it will be with little help from a community that our numbers have bolstered for a long time.
Who threw the bottle at Stonewall has long been a topic of discussion ever since it happened some say it was a cross dresser which make them apart of what is now the transgender community and other claim it was a drag queen which would make them apart of the gay community, so it really comes down to what you believe. I tend to believe the latter since the riot started in a known gay bar it makes more sense that it was a drag queen at least to me it does. As for the rest of your post yeah I feel your pretty much right the Transgender community will have to fight for it's rights by it's self and I feel it's going to be a long long long fight that most likely will take much more then the thirty years it took the gay to accomplish.
Heather Van Wilde

Portland, OR

#8 Jan 22, 2013
As a transgender person, I have to actually agree with Terri and Rosia for the most part. I'm not asking for everything on a silver platter. But I am asking for, nay, demanding an equal shot. And I am truly disturbed at the way some of these replies have said, more or less, that 'when we [gays] get our way, we're going to tell everyone else that helped us to piss off and do it yourself'

Bisexuals already have a bad enough stigma just because they don't stick with one gender or the other. They get portrayed as 'sleeping around' or just 'not really gay','it's just a phase' or some other such thing.

Transgender people, on the other hand, even after gay rights become a reality, will have hundreds of hurdles to overcome. Rights such as a workplace free from harassment and discrimination, right to equal housing, and right to decent health care. Many transgender people have severe mental health damage from coming from households where they have been demonized by family members just for being who and what they are. I'm sure some of the LGB crowd knows how it feels.

I'm sure a lot of the LGB populace knows how it feels to be told they're not a large enough group to matter. That they can get by just fine without being equal. With being second and third class citizens. And now some are ready to throw of their own chains but leave them on the boys and girls standing right beside them, fighting as hard as they are?

That saddens me.
Jen

Clarkston, MI

#9 Jan 22, 2013
The truth is when "ANY" Person suffers because they are treated unfairly,unjustly, denied their basic human rights,discriminated against,vilified, emotionally and physically assaulted and battered simply because of who they are than collective humanity has been debased ,violated suffers and is dehumanized and this must all stop NOW!

Since: Jul 08

Roanoke, VA

#10 Jan 22, 2013
Jen wrote:
The truth is when "ANY" Person suffers because they are treated unfairly,unjustly, denied their basic human rights,discriminated against,vilified, emotionally and physically assaulted and battered simply because of who they are than collective humanity has been debased ,violated suffers and is dehumanized and this must all stop NOW!
I find your use of absolutes hilarious as your claim that Trans be are dehumanized for simple being who they are, they are mistreated many times for flying in the face of society instead of trying to blend into society. Likewise your demands that it stop NOW falls on deaf ears.

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#11 Jan 22, 2013
remember what children are constantly told:
LIFE IS NOT FAIR. get over it.
Heather Van Wilde

Portland, OR

#12 Jan 22, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
I find your use of absolutes hilarious as your claim that Trans be are dehumanized for simple being who they are, they are mistreated many times for flying in the face of society instead of trying to blend into society. Likewise your demands that it stop NOW falls on deaf ears.
And yet there are still some of who play by all the rules, watch our p's and q's and are still vilified. How much do I have to do to appease the privileged. How much do I sacrifice in the name of 'dealing with it'?

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#13 Jan 22, 2013
You won't hear me whining for much, But I feel the Gov't can forgo the $300 + in fees for the given (first) name change. In some cases it's simple as changing one letter (Ian Hamilton to Jan Hamilton) This is not as hard as changing the last name or as hard to trace. When Ms Smith marries Mr Jones she becomes Mrs Jones and usually becomes much harder to trace. I do some family research and if you don't who she married, it can be difficult to find out. I am not asking for this, I'm simply asking for a name change that would reflect the change of gender. Say John to Jane, Robert to Roberta.
Heck, I have to pay for Obamacare, the least they can give me is SRS! I knew he would screw us on this! That's complaining, that's not whining!
Trans whatever, Sylvia Rivera is the acknowledged first bottle thrower at Stonewall. At the time, The NYC cops would go to a Gay bar and roust anyone who was CDed. Transgender, Transexual, It made no difference. And she got sick of it and fought back! Phyllis R. Frey (google)Had a similar situation in Houston where the Cops would bust any lesbians who were wearing jeans with a fly in front. According to their interpretation of the law, the women were CDed and that was punishable. Virginia Prince (Google) fought similar stuff with the Feds over Mail laws.
Regards, Terri
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG!! Terry I'm so sick of hearing the trans community whine and cry every time someone mentions the "Gay" community and doesn't speak the word Transgender. It's high time the transgender community realizes they DON'T have the history the gay community has in fighting for civil rights nor do they have the numbers (as in number of people) to get national attention and lets not forget they don't have the money to get things done.
I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. The Trans community should be getting use to the idea of being on their own because once DOMA falls which most likely will happen in the next four years the "Gay" agenda will be complete and it will be time to cut the coat tails so to speak which will stop the trans community from gaining recognition just from their association with the gay community.
Obama has been and will continue to be the most supportive president the lgbt community has ever known, his mention of the gay community was a first in history for an inaugural speech and has taken over thirty years to accomplish. It signifies a great leap forward in our social conscious so for you to whine just because the trans community wasn't mention is pretty petty in my opinion.
Likewise your whining and bitching about the healthcare law is just as pointless and your cry for free surgery and free name changes is typical of the trans community wanting something for nothing like it's societies responsibility to take care of you or help make your fantasy of being a women a reality Grow up take responsibility for yourself, set a goal and work towards it once there set another one thats how you get things done not be crying and whining oh poor me !
Jen

Clarkston, MI

#14 Jan 22, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
I find your use of absolutes hilarious as your claim that Trans be are dehumanized for simple being who they are, they are mistreated many times for flying in the face of society instead of trying to blend into society. Likewise your demands that it stop NOW falls on deaf ears.
I have a question for you and who makes the rules for society and places people in boxes if not fallible people.What makes you right and everybody who is different and unique wrong? Are you and society the bearer of absolute truth? And what is truth? These are all human social constructs of a statistical majority who at one time believed the earth was flat or the center of the universe.If lemmings follow a leader and fall into the sea are they correct in their behavior?

Since: Jul 08

Roanoke, VA

#16 Jan 22, 2013
Jen wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a question for you and who makes the rules for society and places people in boxes if not fallible people.What makes you right and everybody who is different and unique wrong? Are you and society the bearer of absolute truth? And what is truth? These are all human social constructs of a statistical majority who at one time believed the earth was flat or the center of the universe.If lemmings follow a leader and fall into the sea are they correct in their behavior?
First lets get one thing straight it's NOT me who's claiming to be right I'm merely the messenger. For the last two thousand years society has felt that a man who poses as a women isn't normal

“Even an Ice Princess can melt.”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#17 Jan 23, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
First lets get one thing straight it's NOT me who's claiming to be right I'm merely the messenger. For the last two thousand years society has felt that a man who poses as a women isn't normal
That depends on the society. Western society yes.

However, Samoan society its very normal, Native American society same, Heck even the Japanese society has been ok with it for a long time. Hell even in western culture for a while it was a fad to dress your mail son up in girls clothing in the early 1900's.

2000 years not so much but today yes it is seen as strange but like i said there are small bastions of society where this is not seen as abnormal.

Also we have to remember that being normal is really abnormal.
Jen

Clarkston, MI

#18 Jan 23, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
First lets get one thing straight it's NOT me who's claiming to be right I'm merely the messenger. For the last two thousand years society has felt that a man who poses as a women isn't normal
First lets get one thing straight it's NOT me who's claiming to be right I'm merely the messenger. For the last two thousand years society has felt that a man who poses as a women isn't normal
What is "normal?" Its a statistical term that represents a greater probability of a same, or common expected occurrences but does not account for variables that can and do occur in a nature and the universe and that do not make their occurrence any less real of happening.In sum, the universe place So ,if you are "a messenger" than be a messenger of current knowledge,information and reality and stop disseminating dated pre scientific information from "two thousand" years ago that is currently being challenged by science.
Jen

Clarkston, MI

#19 Jan 23, 2013
Brandi Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
First lets get one thing straight it's NOT me who's claiming to be right I'm merely the messenger. For the last two thousand years society has felt that a man who poses as a women isn't normal
Should read:

What is "normal?" Its a statistical term that represents a greater probability of a same, or common expected occurrences but does not account for variables that can and do occur in a nature and the universe and that do not make their occurrence any less real of happening.In sum, the universe is very diverse place. So ,if you are "a messenger" than be a messenger of current knowledge,information and reality and stop disseminating dated pre scientific information from "two thousand" years ago that is currently being challenged by science.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#20 Jan 23, 2013
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!

People with dorsal fins weren't represented either.
AntiMelting

New Richmond, WI

#21 Jan 23, 2013
Lol.

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