WHO Recommends PrEP for Gay Men

WHO Recommends PrEP for Gay Men

There are 25 comments on the EDGE story from Jul 20, 2014, titled WHO Recommends PrEP for Gay Men. In it, EDGE reports that:

Gay and bisexual men who are at risk for HIV infection should consider using antiretroviral drugs for pre-exposure prophylaxis, better known as PrEP, according to new guidelines from the World Health Organization.

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Belle Sexton

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Jul 20, 2014
First they'd have to admit that they are actually vulnerable.

Besides, condoms are far cheaper.
Rainbow Security Patrol

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Jul 20, 2014
Dave wrote:
I recommend a .45 caliber bullet to the head.
This is the reason we need a judge to put a 100-year hold on the second amendment

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#4 Jul 20, 2014
Dave wrote:
I recommend a .45 caliber bullet to the head.
An excellent idea, as long as the head is yours. Don't forget to leave a note. Not that anyone will miss you, but the police won't have to waste time and resources investigating it as a possible homicide.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Jul 20, 2014
Dave wrote:
I recommend a .45 caliber bullet to the head.
The entire left just denounced gun control in your case. Also suicide hotlines will be blocked on your - one hesitates to say - smart phone.

Eat your own cooking, closet case.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jul 20, 2014
Belle Sexton wrote:
Besides, condoms are far cheaper.
That's why pharma and the NGOs pharma funds and the governments pharma lobbies all prefer PrEP and have for years, imo.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Jul 20, 2014
GoldenGator wrote:
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An excellent idea, as long as the head is yours. Don't forget to leave a note. Not that anyone will miss you, but the police won't have to waste time and resources investigating it as a possible homicide.
Even the S.F. Police Dept. would read his suicide note and exclaim, "That's so gay!"
juls

Bellville, OH

#8 Jul 20, 2014
Dave wrote:
I recommend a .45 caliber bullet to the head.
to you own head I suspect you are saying......be my guest...you have the right to off yourself.....I'll even ignore the newsflash.
Sir Andrew

Honolulu, HI

#9 Jul 20, 2014
PrEP is not intended to replace condoms; it should be used in conjunction with them. There are still issues with potential liver damage that need to be addressed, but I guess WHO has decided that is insignificant.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jul 20, 2014
I read about anti retrovirals and prophylactic pharma all the time.

Never about "condoms for anal and vaginal intercourse." In fact, I have never read that correct, succinct phrase in the mass media, ever.

They might say, "have safe sex." That's like saying, "take care of your lungs," rather than, "smoking cigarettes contribute to cancer and heart disease."
Jumper The wise

Owensboro, KY

#11 Jul 20, 2014
Baptistism by Proxy wrote:
I read about anti retrovirals and prophylactic pharma all the time.
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Then you'll enjoy the movie this fall.
TruvadaWhoreDC

Alexandria, VA

#12 Jul 20, 2014
Baptistism by Proxy wrote:
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That's why pharma and the NGOs pharma funds and the governments pharma lobbies all prefer PrEP and have for years, imo.
With 50,000 people in the US alone becoming HIV+ each year, and that number remaining steady, obviously condoms alone aren't working.
As far as the cost, big pharma would probably prefer that number of seroconversions to grow as HIV+ people require far more medication, and new and different ones over the course of a lifetime. So we can stick with what we know isn't working to stem the tide of new seroconversions, or we can add another tool to the box. If the numbers decrease, we'll save that many people from becoming even bigger consumers of big pharma.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Jul 20, 2014
TruvadaWhoreDC wrote:
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With 50,000 people in the US alone becoming HIV+ each year, and that number remaining steady, obviously condoms alone aren't working.
The government never had explicit safe sex info, not even with Koop.

What little education there was regarding condoms was effectively scuttled. Naturally under those circumstances you won't see the excellent harm reduction results we saw in the 1980s, particularly in areas served by lgbt groups with community appropriate materials, such as GMHC [sic].

We now live in a country where the cretins won't even allow clean needle distribution and where the way to avoid unwanted, teen pregnancies is "abstinence education."

Pharma can't rely on all those full blown AIDS patients having their meds paid for, particularly in red states. They seem to be doing well by this PrEP idea, a funny sort of preventative care, which oddly happens to be what you do after prevention fails.
Baptistism by Proxy

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Jul 20, 2014
Oh, of course some of the lessening impact of ubiquitous, explicit safe sex information came from self destructive pro barebacker activists flouting known facts.

I'm not sure they should qualify for any insurance or government reimbursed HIV meds at all, before or after infection.
TruvadaWhoreDC

Alexandria, VA

#15 Jul 21, 2014
If you accept that gay sex is equal in dignity to straight sex, and you don't expect straight couples to always and forever wear a condom each and every time they have sex, then you can't expect the same of gay couples.

The person who takes the responsible action of going on PrEP, which means he takes a pill every day, gets tested every 3 months for STIs including HIV, and is counseled to continue using condoms (whether he does or doesn't), makes that person a lot more prudent choice of sex partner than someone who simply assumes he's STI-free based on a test maybe a year ago and isn't counseled about harm reduction every 3 months. A person on PrEP has to see his doctor every 90 days in order to renew his prescription. How many contacts per year with a healthcare professional does a person not on PrEP have?

Finally, do we expect people to use a condom every time they have oral sex? And when they're honest about it, how many people actually use a condom 100% of the time for anal sex? A daily pill seems a bit more effective.
Zeppelin

Corryton, TN

#16 Jul 21, 2014
Dave wrote:
I recommend a .45 caliber bullet to the head.
That would solve the problem!
Maggie Gallaghers Schmear

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Jul 21, 2014
TruvadaWhoreDC wrote:
If you accept that gay sex is equal in dignity to straight sex, and you don't expect straight couples to always and forever wear a condom each and every time they have sex, then you can't expect the same of gay couples....Finally, do we expect people to use a condom every time they have oral sex? And when they're honest about it, how many people actually use a condom 100% of the time for anal sex? A daily pill seems a bit more effective.
You're confused. I clearly said, "condoms for anal and vaginal intercourse." I said nothing about gay versus str8 sex. You dreamed I did...because it was convenient for your faux indignance to cover for your lack of an argument.

No, we do not expect everyone to use a condom for every act of anal or vaginal intercourse, just as we do not expect every smoker or every problem drinker to stop in time.

The idea is to reduce harm over time. In a community based, economical fashion. It's not about 100% success rate. It's about increasing the success rate.

Comprehensive, targeted, appropriate safer sex education was doing that where it was available. And it was cheap. But it did not enrich pharma, so mysteriously it fell out of favor.

These days we live in a country so ignorant that decades later you still can't get clean needles except from marginal non profits...if at all. That helps pharma, too. It's utterly craven.

My final remark before was not about people who don't use a condom for _anal or vaginal intercourse_ every time. My final remark was about sick barebacking "activists" who flout known facts. I think they should not get reimbursed for their HIV meds. Then we could effectively allow them to cull themselves from the populace.

Now, some other people might make a considered judgment in light of their monogamy or particular sex history to not use a condom for intercourse. That might be a risk but it is a different group from the group of cretins I was talking about.

So no, making a (super costly) daily pill available is not better. The most effort undertaken for prevention is better. But that doesn't generate the same profits. So it went by the wayside.

By the way, are you a "barebacking" advocate? Wouldn't surprise me.
Maggie Gallaghers Schmear

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Jul 21, 2014
Zeppelin wrote:
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That would solve the problem!
Would be a shame to ruin your closet with the splatter pattern. It is, after all, the one area of your life you lavish the most attention upon.
Homostats

Las Vegas, NV

#19 Jul 21, 2014
Maggie Gallaghers Schmear wrote:
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Would be a shame to ruin your closet with the splatter pattern. It is, after all, the one area of your life you lavish the most attention upon.
Speaking of attention, Freud stated that homosexuals are fixated on their gentiles.
Jumper The wise

Owensboro, KY

#20 Jul 21, 2014
If gays were to castrate themselves as a form of social conformity then these problems wouldn't matter.

I'm mean they're not using them anyway.
Maggie Gallaghers Schmear

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Jul 21, 2014
Homostats wrote:
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Speaking of attention, Freud stated that homosexuals are fixated on their gentiles.
Now we know Foxy is Homostats.

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