Asheville's transgender community speaks

Keith I appreciate your time spent here. I also like the fact that you were willing to exchange your ideas with us in a proactive and positive manner.

Let it be known to you, that i never saw you as a bad father. I know that alot of what happens leading up to a divorce, is sometimes out of our contol.

But anyway, thanks for seeing us as human beings regardless to our being t-girls, and regardless to our individual veiwpoints on the topic.

Take care

Keith retired Gun-bunny wrote:

<quoted text>Well, I'm going to back out of this topic. Hopefully, the girls will go to counseling and try to understand what is going on. I think this Kayla went about it the wrong way when it came down to the children but I have never walked in a transgendered shoes so I don't know what Kayla is feeling. As for my children, I tried to get them to go to counseling with me to understand what happened with me and their mother but they refuse too. You can't help someone unless they are willing to help theirself. You all take care.

And for once, Keith, I TOTALLY agree with what you said! Kayla didn't handle things well, but then again there isn't a handbook on how to do it right. The girls also need to get some counselling to help. Maybe they will accept Kayla and maybe they won't, but that is up to them.

Your story is pretty tragic and I am sure that there have been many missteps made along the way by everyone to contribute to the end result. Good luck on your journey!

Keith retired Gun-bunny wrote:

<quoted text>Well, I'm going to back out of this topic. Hopefully, the girls will go to counseling and try to understand what is going on. I think this Kayla went about it the wrong way when it came down to the children but I have never walked in a transgendered shoes so I don't know what Kayla is feeling. As for my children, I tried to get them to go to counseling with me to understand what happened with me and their mother but they refuse too. You can't help someone unless they are willing to help theirself. You all take care.

And you as well, Keith. Hope things get better for you and your kids.

I honestly feel sorry for the 13 yo daughter....its the crass way Kaylas older daughter was being...If you look into her eyes all you see is murder snide resentment and HATE call it what you want! She was really disrespecful and so wa Dr. Pill and if i remembered correctly Kayla said she informed her family in increments....and NO it was NOT a out of the blues like...oh im a woman now love me...

Oh and for the beginning of the show... the title was MEANT to discourage viewers point of view to hate the transitioning person on stage for doing what was done to her daughters.

God made you wrote:

God made you, He made you male and female!
God forgive you for the sin you commit when you hide behind what He made and distort it to suit your misplaced mind.
Come to Him and He will forgive you, as He does us all.

I am a born-again Christian, and God allowed me to be made transgendered. I'm not hiding behind anything, nor distorting anything. Is this the kind of misguided bile that you would heap upon hermaphrodites? Yes, God made people male and female (generally) BUT there are some among us who are both and neither, and we get that way through no fault of our own.

The Lord spoke kindly of us in Isaiah 56:3, and then Jesus in Matthew 19:11-12. The eunuchs of old are much the same as the transgendered of today, and they were reviled by "normal" people just as much.***IF*** Jesus had a problem with this, He had the perfect opportunity to condemn us in the Gospel I just referenced.

BUT, let's say for a moment that being transgendered is sinful. Is it any worse than, say, gossiping? lying? adultery? The scriptural truth is that EVERYONE is just as guilty of sin and in need of Jesus as Savior! The only sin that cannot be forgiven is that of rejecting Jesus' pardon. Period. SO, being transgender will not keep anyone from God's forgiveness any more than any other sin.

I'm sorry that some of you people have trouble with this, but honestly take it to God and study your Bible.

Honestly,how could anyone be so stupid to blame somebody for being born with any kind of abnormality,if that's what it is.It may be a remnant from our evolution,or pre evolution.Who knows.We have irradiated our planet,poured chemicals down our drains,put toxins in the air for generations.We ooo and awww at a two headed frog,the get all Biblical about humans that are different.
God has a plan for us all,and only he can judge,if you want to get Biblical about it.Stating facts and judging from from facts are one thing,but to pass judgment on something we know nothing about?C'mon.
Any geneticists out there want to explain this?I doubt it,they,unlike us have lives....

Brett Blatchley wrote:

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I am a born-again Christian, and God allowed me to be made transgendered. I'm not hiding behind anything, nor distorting anything. Is this the kind of misguided bile that you would heap upon hermaphrodites? Yes, God made people male and female (generally) BUT there are some among us who are both and neither, and we get that way through no fault of our own.
The Lord spoke kindly of us in Isaiah 56:3, and then Jesus in Matthew 19:11-12. The eunuchs of old are much the same as the transgendered of today, and they were reviled by "normal" people just as much.***IF*** Jesus had a problem with this, He had the perfect opportunity to condemn us in the Gospel I just referenced.
BUT, let's say for a moment that being transgendered is sinful. Is it any worse than, say, gossiping? lying? adultery? The scriptural truth is that EVERYONE is just as guilty of sin and in need of Jesus as Savior! The only sin that cannot be forgiven is that of rejecting Jesus' pardon. Period. SO, being transgender will not keep anyone from God's forgiveness any more than any other sin.
I'm sorry that some of you people have trouble with this, but honestly take it to God and study your Bible.

What the hell made you bring up a 2 year old thread? Was someone rude to the poor little thingy. You are an abomination!

Andrew wrote:

Absolutely sickening and that's what "transgenderism" is... a sickness! These people need lots of prayers.

Jesus ate a lot of weenie just like you.

Jesus Sucks wrote:

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Jesus ate a lot of weenie just like you.

Hmmm. I'd like to get to know him cause so do I.

Jesus Sucks wrote:

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Jesus ate a lot of weenie just like you.

Could I get in on the suking too? I can take the chrome off a traler hitch.

God made you wrote:

God made you, He made you male and female!
God forgive you for the sin you commit when you hide behind what He made and distort it to suit your misplaced mind.
Come to Him and He will forgive you, as He does us all.

God is evil.

God makes people with both male and female sex organs. Is that a sin too.

Trans people don't choose it and neither do gays. You and you Jesus can eat schit and die.

Godispain.blogspot.com

Sin is not forgiven unless you repent

All these yankee perverts need to return home up north. We don't want a bunch of sick buttbumpers here spreading AIDS and herpes.

OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE...HERE ON THIS PLANET....A LOT OF PEOPLE PRE JUDGE PEOPLE ABOUT THINGS THEY NO NOTHING NOTHING ABOUT....LIKE TRANSGENDER....WOMAN AND MEN...WICH IM A WOMAN TRAPED IN A BOYS BODY...ITS SO MENTILY FRUSTRATING EVERY WIATEING.MOMENT OF MY FEMALE LIFE..TRAPED IN THIS BOYS BODY I CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP EVERY NITE...thares been days im.so saprised that i havent killed myself yet being traped in this body for 45 yrs....its been so difacult liveing day by day in this body that doesent match....so nxt year im going to change that prob....so to allof the transgender people around the world .....JUST BE TRUE TO ONESELF ....THATS WHAT GOD WOULD WANT FOR YOU TO BE YOUR TRUE SELF.. JUST LISTEN TO YOUR HEART...IT SPEEKS THE TRUTH MINE DOES ....JUST IGNORE PEOPLE TO WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT US ...THARE NOT IN OUR BODYS THEY HAVE THARE OWN PROB..AND THARE PREJUSTICES....I THINK THARE JUST BOARD.AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO WITH THEM TIME..SO ...AS THE BETLES WHOULD SAY LET EM BE.....WELL ANYHOW GODBLESS TO EVERYBODY..

Andrew wrote:

Absolutely sickening and that's what "transgenderism" is... a sickness! These people need lots of prayers.

Un educated...... Study biology! Sick? Sick As a person in a wheel chair. Or sick as person who judges what they know NOTHING about. Creating hate, fear of their own sexuality. Grow up and face people who are born with two heads, 6 fingers and ......sexuality and gender that is different. Stop condemning that which you have no idea about!!!!!!!!!! God says to LOVE.. You need prayer for your ignorance and more importantly .... JUDGEMENT ... Have a nice day, Mom

A few years ago I notced my 18 year old son started wearing more and more effeminate clothing and acted like a light-in-the-loafers fruitfly. I had a father-son talk with him. He claimed to be "transgender" and showed me he was wearing women's panties under his dress. I told him: "either join the Army and become a real man, or get out of the house and quit mooching off mom and myself. I want a real man for a son not some liberal brainwashed fagrutQueer for a 'son'."

I am proud to say my son joined the US Army and was turned into a real man. He is a member of the 101st Airborne Division, Screaming Eagles, and enjoy now being the way God made him.

Solution for sex-confused people? Send the boys into military service (except the Navy because there are too many queers there) and the girls to charm school. There is an excellent charm school in Charleston named "Miss Pittypat's Southern Belle Charm School" that will turn your bulldyke daughters into real soft Southern Belle women!

Parents get going and change your children's lives for the better!

A sickness? No, it's been part of the human condition for thousands of years.In Georgia (russia) a female type grave was found with a male bodied person in it. It was 5000 years old. In India there are the Hijra (Google) who go back at least two thousand years. Among American Indians, There are Berdache (Google). Not to mention The Faa' fafini in American Samoa and the Kathoey of Thailand (Google both) I have personally seen an Egyptian male mummy that was placed in a Female coffin, in the British Museum in London. Some lame explanation was given for this about running out of male coffins. However, since the coffins were made for the occupants, this doesn't hold much water. Some other suggested reading would be The Bible, specifically the NEW testament (not the old Jewish Testament) Matt. 19:12. It's too long to print out here, but these are Jesus' own words. Another place would be Lynnconway.com , Scroll down to Transexual Women's successes and read about us, Also there's Donnarose.com and you might try Capt. Jan Hamilton and Kristin Beck So go on hating us! You're part of a minority that's getting smaller every day. BTW, Last summer, I took a trip out to Montana , Idaho, California, etc. It was a road trip by car and I used the ladies rooms on the way out and back! And no one challenged me on the whole trip, out and back. OH and I don't pass! My profile pic was taken on the trip.
Regards, Terri

Andrew wrote:

Absolutely sickening and that's what "transgenderism" is... a sickness! These people need lots of prayers.

boy! Are you in for a surprise! Just wait till that "Screaming Eagles" stuff wears off. And it will wear off (Google Capt. Jan Hamilton and Kristin Beck) many,many TSes have joined the services to have the girl knocked out of them and come back a either transitioned or committed suicide. My advice is, if you love your son (Daughter) accept him or her as she is. Trying to change them only ends in frustration and sadness all around. Good luck to you both!
Regards, Terri

Dad of Queer Son wrote:

A few years ago I notced my 18 year old son started wearing more and more effeminate clothing and acted like a light-in-the-loafers fruitfly. I had a father-son talk with him. He claimed to be "transgender" and showed me he was wearing women's panties under his dress. I told him: "either join the Army and become a real man, or get out of the house and quit mooching off mom and myself. I want a real man for a son not some liberal brainwashed fagrutQueer for a 'son'."
I am proud to say my son joined the US Army and was turned into a real man. He is a member of the 101st Airborne Division, Screaming Eagles, and enjoy now being the way God made him.
Solution for sex-confused people? Send the boys into military service (except the Navy because there are too many queers there) and the girls to charm school. There is an excellent charm school in Charleston named "Miss Pittypat's Southern Belle Charm School" that will turn your bulldyke daughters into real soft Southern Belle women!
Parents get going and change your children's lives for the better!

My husband and I are BOTH straight as a stick and BOTH strong str8 allies for many years! We attend MCC because we want our kids and grandkids. None of whom are lgbt by the way to grow up with love and tolerance! The sin is NOT doing something different. It is destroying someone else's life by trying to change what you naturally are! I am in an interracial relationship and bible thumper freaks like to say that isn't natural. Moses wife was a cushite does that mean God made exception just for him?? NO!! And black ladies, if you are accepting I love you to pieces. But if not, you are probably one. Of those who decided he needed a "beautiful Nubian Queen" which he doesn't want bc the two he had were intolerable disrespectful smart a&&es! There is a difference in a "strong black woman" and one that is DOWNRIGHT DISRESPECTFUL and racist! I don't like racist people of ANY color and I don't like big hits and to think I was raised in EAST TENNESSEE!!!

Jessica B wrote:

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Thanks James, that means much more than all the bigots combined. Nice to know there are some folks out there who don't automatically hate what they don't understand.

All peope are created equal. God looks inside at a mans heart, man looks at the outward appearance and judges it. If their appearance does not effect them, why should it effect you.