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#50 Dec 6, 2012
mofred wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=aZaxo6mqKv A … I never beleive its a disorder it a choice of sexual choice?
I dont beleive anything else
You might want to rephrase that. It's not making any sense.

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Since: Apr 09

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#51 Dec 6, 2012
Duh Moment wrote:
<quoted text> No one will do the studies. Do you think government that protects Pharma will do them, or Pharma itself? Who's left? Anyone who does them will feel backlash that will include personal and professional asassination from government and medical authorities. The only studies offered are bought and paid for by government and Pharma. Guess what conclusions they find? For decades parents and autism support groups have asked for studies, and have gotten zero studies from government.
Thats funny cause i can find many studies on vaccines. The government maybe be able to control the US research as you claim but how about the rest of the worlds research? You give our government way to much power.

But I guess if you cant find what your looking for than there must be a government conspiracy to cover it up.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#52 Dec 6, 2012
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
People mourn. But when healthy mourning goes beyond the normal, into depression and other mental issues that destroy one's life, they have a good point.
And, there is NO evidence whatsoever that vaccines cause autism.
Find some, and then make claims.
The only ones who could do that science won't do it. Only Pharma and government could, but they know that science would convict them. Thats how the real world works. What they do offer is from Denmark. The head of that study is now accused of fraud and theft. But they claim its a reliable study which it isn't. Those who say theres no proof are parroting the authorities and have little ability for independent thought.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#53 Dec 6, 2012
Roisia wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats funny cause i can find many studies on vaccines. The government maybe be able to control the US research as you claim but how about the rest of the worlds research? You give our government way to much power.
But I guess if you cant find what your looking for than there must be a government conspiracy to cover it up.
I've been researching for 18 years and have NEVER found a reliable study. They claim theres 1,000 studies that support (conclude) no connection, but thats hardly proof. They can conclude what they want, but others can also have conclusions, so its a stalemate. Thats the limbo the issue has been in for decades as autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 88 (or less) in the USA, 1 in 64 Britain, 1 in 38 South Korea 3 countries with the highest vaccine schedules in the world.

Since: Jan 07

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#54 Dec 6, 2012
Although this topic isn't about autism, let's just show the misinfo an anti vaxxer provides and how they don't factor in anyone knowing or researching the facts.
Ask yourself why anyone would only claim the only offering study was Denmarks? Try Japan, Canada and Finland for starters. Hard to believe an anti vaxxer wouldn't know about those other countries.
Anti vaxxers would lead you to believe Poul Thorsen was the main author of the Denmark study, but he wasn't. The only role Thorsen had within the study was collecting the funding and anyone would know this when they look at the names listed on the study and the order of them. The NAAR funded it, and KM Madsen was the lead author. Thorsen is listed 6th. Yes, he is accused of running off with funding but again, he hasn't had his day in court, either. His actions does not make the results of the study unreliable in the least.
The only study to date deemed unreliable and a fraud, having their day in court is Andrew Wakefield. And he WAS the lead author.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#55 Dec 6, 2012
Duh Moment wrote:
<quoted text> Where have I offered anything for sale? Where have I scammed anyone? If you're looking for a scam, then believe it when they say vaccines are safer and side effects are rare and mild. Vaccine side effects have changed the world they are so massive.
Lame, rule number 4 of a good scam, pretend you aren't selling anything while trying to convince people to use the product. Not any different than any other scammer, you took lessons from the bible, didn't you?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#56 Dec 6, 2012
Duh Moment wrote:
<quoted text>Blah Blah, where are the peer reviewed studies that prove that? Two can play that game.
Really?

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url...
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j....
http://www.neurology.org/content/62/5/795.sho... <- an interesting genetic biological factor which might have relevance, more study will be required, but it's one possible cause of the ailment.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.... This one's easy to understand.
pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/108/4/...
http://adc.bmj.com/content/91/1/8.short

.... and that's just the first page of results. Want the next 100? I'll post them all if you really want.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#57 Dec 6, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> I've been researching for 18 years and have NEVER found a reliable study. They claim theres 1,000 studies that support (conclude) no connection, but thats hardly proof. They can conclude what they want, but others can also have conclusions, so its a stalemate. Thats the limbo the issue has been in for decades as autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 88 (or less) in the USA, 1 in 64 Britain, 1 in 38 South Korea 3 countries with the highest vaccine schedules in the world.
You have not been researching this for 18 years, you have just been buying all the books that agree with you without even looking into the author's background. Hint: celebrities are not scientists, and most don't even know the difference between nickel and mercury, let alone the biological and genetic function of the human organism.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#58 Dec 6, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>The only ones who could do that science won't do it. Only Pharma and government could, but they know that science would convict them. Thats how the real world works. What they do offer is from Denmark. The head of that study is now accused of fraud and theft. But they claim its a reliable study which it isn't. Those who say theres no proof are parroting the authorities and have little ability for independent thought.
You are belittling a serious mental condition, and giving dangerous medical advice, unless you are a doctor, you could be held libel. How's that for a conviction? Yep, you could be prosecuted for malpractice, you don't need to have a medical license to be convicted of that, you just have to risk other people's lives by giving bad and inaccurate advice. But that's not even the bad part of what you are doing, the truly horrible thing you are doing is filling people with a myth that will leave them unprepared for what happens when their child is diagnosed with autism in spite of not having given them vaccines, and then all the other illnesses they'll catch which the vaccines would have prevented. You are killing children with your lies, and that is unforgivable.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#59 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You are belittling a serious mental condition, and giving dangerous medical advice, unless you are a doctor, you could be held libel. How's that for a conviction? Yep, you could be prosecuted for malpractice, you don't need to have a medical license to be convicted of that, you just have to risk other people's lives by giving bad and inaccurate advice. But that's not even the bad part of what you are doing, the truly horrible thing you are doing is filling people with a myth that will leave them unprepared for what happens when their child is diagnosed with autism in spite of not having given them vaccines, and then all the other illnesses they'll catch which the vaccines would have prevented. You are killing children with your lies, and that is unforgivable.
Statements like this tell me all I need to know about who I'm dealing with. Go back to hiding from the big bad woerld and be a good citizen who only believes what government tells you to believe.

Since: Jan 07

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#60 Dec 6, 2012
Winnipeg is not in the medical field at all. He's your garden variety anti vaxxers bitter because he coudn't sue for whatever is going on with his son. There is no research acceptable to a anti vaxxer; the deny it all but this anti vaxxer wont even read what you provide. He's famous for his simple 'garbage' replies, spreading unfounded info and disrupting the normal flow of forums.
In others words, he's an attention seeker just as Wakefield and McCarthy are.

Since: Jan 07

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#61 Dec 6, 2012
What he's actually saying is, he wasn't expecting anyone to be so well-informed and not buy into his conspiracy theories.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#62 Dec 6, 2012
friend wrote:
What he's actually saying is, he wasn't expecting anyone to be so well-informed and not buy into his conspiracy theories.
If I EVER meet a well informed poster on Topix I'll be shocked. friend of Pharma the welfare mom from MinnesoDUH pretends to be an authority on all things regarding autism, but provides ONLY subjective opinions never proof or even links. friend of Pharma is a troll that focuses on disrupting any positive news about autism and says black for every white. friend of Pharma has no medical background or knowledge. That doesn't stop her from giving misinformation.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63 Dec 6, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>Statements like this tell me all I need to know about who I'm dealing with. Go back to hiding from the big bad woerld and be a good citizen who only believes what government tells you to believe.
You assume way too much, it's you hiding, and hiding behind conspiracy insanity. I hate the US government, I actually hate this whole country, and it's because there are too many insane people, like you, who will buy into any myth as long as the evidence is marketable instead of actually reading real evidence, which is only interesting to intelligent people because it's written with really big words, compared to what you read. Do you know what dihydro-oxidate is? You consume large amounts every single day, and 100% of the people who consume it die, that's 100% of the people who consume water die. Same exact methodology your "sources" used to sell you a bunch of useless books that you take as fact without ever checking once only to tell other idiotic Americans that there's some boogy man in the closet. Worst par of all this? Half of the politicians believe this or similar garbage as well. Oh yeah, you neglect to mention all the politicians who agree with you, they bought the same books even, and that's probably why you bought the junk science books as well. Who was it? Palin? McCain? Or that new whackjob who's name escapes me now? It's not some grand conspiracy, which makes it even more aggravating, it's that you are an idiot, and so are most Americans, because you buy into lame junk like this. If it wasn't this it would be a god delusion, or sweatshops, or "gay diseases."

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#64 Dec 6, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>If I EVER meet a well informed poster on Topix I'll be shocked. friend of Pharma the welfare mom from MinnesoDUH pretends to be an authority on all things regarding autism, but provides ONLY subjective opinions never proof or even links. friend of Pharma is a troll that focuses on disrupting any positive news about autism and says black for every white. friend of Pharma has no medical background or knowledge. That doesn't stop her from giving misinformation.
You are a moron. That is all I can add now. You are a lost cause, a worthless bag of trash, a useless husk, a danger to the species.

Since: Jan 07

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#65 Dec 6, 2012
For starters, I didn't come to this article going off topic making unfounded claims and outright lies. Two I'm not the one accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you that they're on welfare and employed by Pharma. Three Anyone can look up who the lead author is on the MMR study but go take a look for yourself
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421889
And her's Wakefield's guilt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/28...
That doesn't make me have any authority, and I'm not the one giving medical advice. I'm also not the one who get's their posts deleted. And that above comment of yours will surely be deleted.
Try following TOS of this site.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#66 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You assume way too much, it's you hiding, and hiding behind conspiracy insanity. I hate the US government, I actually hate this whole country, and it's because there are too many insane people, like you, who will buy into any myth as long as the evidence is marketable instead of actually reading real evidence, which is only interesting to intelligent people because it's written with really big words, compared to what you read. Do you know what dihydro-oxidate is? You consume large amounts every single day, and 100% of the people who consume it die, that's 100% of the people who consume water die. Same exact methodology your "sources" used to sell you a bunch of useless books that you take as fact without ever checking once only to tell other idiotic Americans that there's some boogy man in the closet. Worst par of all this? Half of the politicians believe this or similar garbage as well. Oh yeah, you neglect to mention all the politicians who agree with you, they bought the same books even, and that's probably why you bought the junk science books as well. Who was it? Palin? McCain? Or that new whackjob who's name escapes me now? It's not some grand conspiracy, which makes it even more aggravating, it's that you are an idiot, and so are most Americans, because you buy into lame junk like this. If it wasn't this it would be a god delusion, or sweatshops, or "gay diseases."
What an immature rant. So provide your REAL EVIDENCE. I ask and ask but you refuse every time. Maybe you need to lay down and make an appointment to see your psychiatrist.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#67 Dec 6, 2012
friend wrote:
For starters, I didn't come to this article going off topic making unfounded claims and outright lies. Two I'm not the one accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you that they're on welfare and employed by Pharma. Three Anyone can look up who the lead author is on the MMR study but go take a look for yourself
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421889
And her's Wakefield's guilt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/28...
That doesn't make me have any authority, and I'm not the one giving medical advice. I'm also not the one who get's their posts deleted. And that above comment of yours will surely be deleted.
Try following TOS of this site.
Not Wakefield again? Where are the 1,000 studies?
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#68 Dec 6, 2012
friend wrote:
For starters, I didn't come to this article going off topic making unfounded claims and outright lies. Two I'm not the one accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you that they're on welfare and employed by Pharma. Three Anyone can look up who the lead author is on the MMR study but go take a look for yourself
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421889
And her's Wakefield's guilt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/28...
That doesn't make me have any authority, and I'm not the one giving medical advice. I'm also not the one who get's their posts deleted. And that above comment of yours will surely be deleted.
Try following TOS of this site.
Why would the USA not study its own people instead of Denmark's?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69 Dec 6, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>What an immature rant. So provide your REAL EVIDENCE. I ask and ask but you refuse every time. Maybe you need to lay down and make an appointment to see your psychiatrist.
You conveniently ignored my post with all the scholarly articles, how ... convenient for you. Actually not really convenient, because you did see them, you are pretending they were posted because you have to keep lying to sell your product. Alright, the next page from the over 100 pages:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF...
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/125/6...
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1... <- Specifically about Wakefield, very ... interesting.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j....
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1592/ph...
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/5/12...

Funny thing, you insane lunatics actually helped us convince scientists that we need to study the real causes more. So, every single scientists, college professor, and analyst has written something on it. Guess what? Almost none of the published papers that had actual evidence agree with yours. Also, all I entered in the search was "rise in autism" ... yet most of these completely destroy your point, and I mean completely. So stop lying, lies are not harmless, and you offering medical advice to people is very harmful.

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