Repeal of LGBT protections to be on Nov. 6 ballot

Sep 10, 2012 Full story: www.saljournal.com 84

An ordinance that protects gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people from discrimination in Salina will go on the ballot in November.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#57 Sep 24, 2012
Eric wrote:
Yes, yes- Maryland, my bad. Christopher Solis, I think was his name.
It really doesn't matter where this hate crime took place, because the facts of the case prove you lied.
Eric wrote:
Anyways, a dude getting his thing cut off then walking into women's restrooms - as for 'bizarre', that scenario takes the cake. Pretty f-----g strange. Set yourself up for that one, you sophomoric fool.
A woman walked into that restroom assh*le, your problems with how she became physically woman should be between you and a competent mental health professional.
Eric wrote:
But then again, your's and my definition of bizarre differ greatly, don't they. Folks like you, their definition of normal and bizarre must be graded on a curve. Your freewheeling, depraved and loose standards of morality, also on a curve from those with honorable, Middle-American sensibilities.
Might I suggest you return yourself back to Castro district or whatever place you hail? This is Middle-America, and that s--t that goes over in that politically-correct bubble that is Mass. NY and California don't fly here.
Sweetie, you're dismissed, you really have nothing to say worth listening to.
David

United States

#58 Sep 25, 2012
http://nation.foxnews.com/school/2011/10/30/c...

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Cross-dressin...

Here is one grim scenario which arises from these type of bills. Harmless? The kids just got a good laugh out of it, right? Wrong.

These scenarios blurr the line of sanity and reality in these young kids' malleable and impressionable young minds. This is a damn travesty.

As all of us former students recall, children emulate and look up to their teachers. It's natural. How many times have you heared a kid answer, when asked what they want to be when they grow up, "a teacher".

Why, oh why, would they not want to emulate their teacher in Vancouver? This answers it clearly: http://www.sexchangeregret.com/research/suici...

The destructive aftermath of these kinds of bills aren't as dramatic as a fireball crashing to earth. ONe phrase comes to mind, "Imperceptible Chaos". They corrode values and sensibilities over time.

Gender Identity bills like the one on the ballot in Salina corrupt children.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

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#59 Sep 25, 2012
"Repeal of LGBT protections to be on Nov. 6 ballot"

The dems want greater advantages for the gays and take more rights away from straight Christians.

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#61 Sep 25, 2012
David wrote:
http://nation.foxnews.com/scho ol/2011/10/30/cross-dressing-t eacher-sparks-controversy
http://www.king5.com/news/local/Cross-dressin...
Here is one grim scenario which arises from these type of bills. Harmless? The kids just got a good laugh out of it, right? Wrong.
These scenarios blurr the line of sanity and reality in these young kids' malleable and impressionable young minds. This is a damn travesty.
As all of us former students recall, children emulate and look up to their teachers. It's natural. How many times have you heared a kid answer, when asked what they want to be when they grow up, "a teacher".
Why, oh why, would they not want to emulate their teacher in Vancouver? This answers it clearly: http://www.sexchangeregret.com/research/suici...
The destructive aftermath of these kinds of bills aren't as dramatic as a fireball crashing to earth. ONe phrase comes to mind, "Imperceptible Chaos". They corrode values and sensibilities over time.
Gender Identity bills like the one on the ballot in Salina corrupt children.
Grim? How so? Were the children harmed at all? Hardly! If anyone was hurt it was the trans person who was just trying to make an honest living. I'm sure the kids will be taught about respecting differences and granting dignity to others, no matter what they look like. As far as having the kids emulate this teacher, why would they? And if they did, where's the harm? I mean, where's the harm other than the affront to your prejudices?

I fail to see how Walt Heyer's attempt to blame others for his bad choices has anything to do with a nondiscrimination law in Kansas. It seems your examples are just evidence of your grasping for anything you can find, relevant or not, to marginalize and denigrate trans people.

I asked for evidence and you give us straw men and non sequitor, David. Obviously you have no real evidence at all to justify your animus and aversion.

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#62 Sep 25, 2012
wertyu wrote:
<quoted text>
Gettin' to you, huh little lady....
LoL! All you're "gettin'" is contempt.

Since: Jan 08

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#63 Sep 26, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
"Repeal of LGBT protections to be on Nov. 6 ballot"
The dems want greater advantages for the gays and take more rights away from straight Christians.
Ridiculous.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#64 Sep 26, 2012
David wrote:
http://nation.foxnews.com/scho ol/2011/10/30/cross-dressing-t eacher-sparks-controversy
http://www.king5.com/news/local/Cross-dressin...
Here is one grim scenario which arises from these type of bills. Harmless? The kids just got a good laugh out of it, right? Wrong.
These scenarios blurr the line of sanity and reality in these young kids' malleable and impressionable young minds. This is a damn travesty.
As all of us former students recall, children emulate and look up to their teachers. It's natural. How many times have you heared a kid answer, when asked what they want to be when they grow up, "a teacher".
Why, oh why, would they not want to emulate their teacher in Vancouver? This answers it clearly: http://www.sexchangeregret.com/research/suici...
The destructive aftermath of these kinds of bills aren't as dramatic as a fireball crashing to earth. ONe phrase comes to mind, "Imperceptible Chaos". They corrode values and sensibilities over time.
Gender Identity bills like the one on the ballot in Salina corrupt children.
First you come up with a story where you had to lie about the facts, now you come up with one where you seem more outraged by it than the parents of the kids at this school. The School Board explained that they already knew that they were employing this person, this wasn't even the first time he had worked dressed in the way that he did and as long as his wardrobe choice met the guidelines for someone wearing a dress, they didn't have a problem. The supposed "controversy" ended the same day it began, except for a few repeats of wire service reports that made it seem like it was being dragged out longer than it actually was.

Hon, your being freaked out by those whose expression of their gender identity isn't what YOU want it to be, is a darn good reason why the ordinance should remain on the books, not why it should be repealed.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#66 Sep 26, 2012
ertyui wrote:
Imagine a world without lesbians, gay men, bis, and wacked out "trans-genders"...It 's easy if you try.....
Imagine a world without juvenile bigots polluting the discussion with their childish "thoughts" on the subject. What a better world it would be for us all.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#68 Sep 26, 2012
Impress me, don't procreate "naturally" or otherwise and stay the f*ck away from other people's children. Irrational hate and bigotry are not natural human states, you are an embarrassment to our species.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#70 Sep 27, 2012
Eric wrote:
The narrative you are perpetuating is a classic game of "hide the ball".
Yet every objection of the antigay (i.e., you and your ilk) can be deconstructed to *nothingness*-- you don't HAVE any objection that makes sense, and your every "objection" is a lie. There *is no* reason for you to object; you *invent them*.

That's *NOT* a game of "hide the ball"?

Why can none of you, not a goddamn *one* of you, explain your objections in COURTS OF LAW so that judges side with you?

Why is that?
Eric wrote:
You have the same rights in America as straights, but the gay lobby has had such success that it's now drunk with power.
This is the big lie: "the same rights." Let's *watch you* and *witness you* on camera, posted on youtube,*FORCED* to marry someone of the same gender -- and how you'd react. I can only imagine the uproar, the upheavel of *some* type as you were *forced* into this, literally f-o-r-c-e-d, and cried about YOUR rights.

One of the television networks or producers needs to produce a reality show where people *just. like. you.* are caught on camera being *told that some circumstance will FORCE* them to marry someone of the same gender, and film your reaction(s). I know for a fact that that television program would prove forever that marrying the gender to which you are attracted is *NOT* the same as marrying the gender which would render your marriage MEANINGLESS.

And worst of all, you know this too. You antigay people *lie* like satanists with no moral code, over and over and over, for no reason, turning America into a burning wasteland of rotting shit, to be honest, because you make the entire country look like it no longer has a moral code to speak of.
Eric wrote:
Like, affirmative action on steroids - that's the horizon they're chasing.
Right, but none of you can ever explain *WHY* they're supposedly doing this. WHY. WHY.
Eric wrote:
No, I don't think you literally want to takeover society in the sense most people first envision.
None of you can provide *ANY* reasoning for your outlandish theories. NONE.

What? would? they? gain?
Eric wrote:
Your lobby wants to criminalize any and all dissenting viewpoints and expression of those in society -
Oh, ya mean, like the same way that over thirty states have *ripped away* their right to have a normal family life? Yeah, and you're afraid of this, and we're supposed to cry for you. Christ.

The antigay "pundits" wanted a culture war.

They got it.

And there's you, complaining like a (censored)(censored). Christ.

Be careful what you wish for, huh.
Eric wrote:
and force celebration of your lifestyle ("lifestyle", not identity)
Well, this proves you're antigay; the antigay are the only people who *ignore science itself* and pretend they know better.

They just can't shut their big mouths and admit they know less than scientists, psychiatrists and doctors. Only in America, land of the *proudly stupid*, could such a thing happen. Be proud, champ.
Eric wrote:
upon everyone - starting with kindergarteners in public schools. You're over halfway there, btw.
Right, and what would they G?A?I?N?, none of you can ever explain what their *GOAL* is and what they're *AFTER*.

The real "hide the ball" happens when you answer those questions, and your answers don't *REALLY* explain *WHY* they would supposedly be doing this.

The big question is *WHY*. And explaining *WHY* the antigay would want to stay in *THEIR* position is a lot more telling than pretending they can explain *WHY* the pro-gay would be attempting everything attributed to them.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#71 Sep 27, 2012
ertyui wrote:
<quoted text>
It embarrasses me that we can be called the same species. Irrational sexual deviance is not a human state. Die.
And I have no doubt that your doltish, rapist obsession with failing to understand is just as unimpressive to the other person. In fact,*no one* is more hateful or more violent than the antigay -- as you demonstrate here.

Frankly, you can choke to death on a throat gorged with vomit and I have no doubt it would bring much more than a shrug. You people act like *subhuman filth* and you expect to be treated like intelligent beings -- yet you ignore every scientific and sensible finding on this subject,*unable even to explain* what would be the *GOALS* of people you say such terrible things about.

The antigay remind me of unrepentant, sociopathic rapists who *can't even have a normal conversation, can't even make sense, and have absolutely no moral code whatsoever*. What a pile of rotting shit they make America look like. Christ.
Eric

United States

#73 Sep 27, 2012
hi hi wrote:
<quoted text>
And I have no doubt that your doltish, rapist obsession with failing to understand is just as unimpressive to the other person. In fact,*no one* is more hateful or more violent than the antigay -- as you demonstrate here.
Frankly, you can choke to death on a throat gorged with vomit and I have no doubt it would bring much more than a shrug. You people act like *subhuman filth* and you expect to be treated like intelligent beings -- yet you ignore every scientific and sensible finding on this subject,*unable even to explain* what would be the *GOALS* of people you say such terrible things about.
The antigay remind me of unrepentant, sociopathic rapists who *can't even have a normal conversation, can't even make sense, and have absolutely no moral code whatsoever*. What a pile of rotting shit they make America look like. Christ.
No, science has been deciededly un-friendly to gays, like the original Swedish study of identical twins (same DNA) where one twin was gay and the other had only an 11% incidence of homosexuality. So genetic component goes right out of the window.

In fact, science is the one real objective, demonstrable reason (other than Biblical) to justify objection to homosexuality. Like the Regenerus study that just came out showing children of gay households fare worse in 77/80 developmental areas. Or the science of how 3% of the population (gay and bi men) account for over half of the population's total H.I.V. infections, and over 60% of siphilis. Science, like the Bell and Weinberg study, the Reisman/Baldwin study, have been your achilles heel in the forum of rational debate when trying to convince people that homosexuality is but a normal, acceptable deviation to heterosexuality.

It's your scathing, venemous, hyperbolic diatribe that typifies your kind. You're a pathalogically-thin-skinned, vindicative demographic, who's activism is not about extending rights to gays, but to levelling revenge on the rest of society for all the decades of Judeo-Christian ostricization of homosexuality and other forms of depravity. Gay activism is about nothing but sweet revenge. And those who devote their lives to revenge are like noxious weeds in the flower garden of humanity.
Eric

United States

#74 Sep 27, 2012
hi hi wrote:
<quoted text>
And I have no doubt that your doltish, rapist obsession with failing to understand is just as unimpressive to the other person. In fact,*no one* is more hateful or more violent than the antigay -- as you demonstrate here.
Frankly, you can choke to death on a throat gorged with vomit and I have no doubt it would bring much more than a shrug. You people act like *subhuman filth* and you expect to be treated like intelligent beings -- yet you ignore every scientific and sensible finding on this subject,*unable even to explain* what would be the *GOALS* of people you say such terrible things about.
The antigay remind me of unrepentant, sociopathic rapists who *can't even have a normal conversation, can't even make sense, and have absolutely no moral code whatsoever*. What a pile of rotting shit they make America look like. Christ.
You exemlify so overtly what psychologist call "projecting". It's so clear that the insults and accusations you're leveling at others for charactier assassination are merely you holding up a mirror to your own grim, depraved conscience and verbalizing what you see.
Eric

United States

#75 Sep 27, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Impress me, don't procreate "naturally" or otherwise and stay the f*ck away from other people's children. Irrational hate and bigotry are not natural human states, you are an embarrassment to our species.
I would like for gay activists via anti-bullying and GSA clubs in schools - to stay away from peoples children. These things were the brainchild of gay activist Kevin Jennings to act as a way to camoflauge getting gay-promoting materials/presentations into schools.

With your strategic, social-engineering indoctrination platforms, you gays are right on top of our kids in schools, all without parental notifications, all on the taxpayer dime.

I wouldn't mind if the Ricks in Kansas would stay the f--k away from other people's children.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#76 Sep 27, 2012
ertyui wrote:
It embarrasses me that we can be called the same species. Irrational sexual deviance is not a human state. Die.
Oh cupcake, your embarrassment pales in comparison to that of the rest of the human race at having you among them. I don't wish you to die, quite the opposite actually, I wish you an incredibly long, long life of being a laughingstock. You can reply if you really feel the need, but I'm done wasting my time on your human waste. Toodles putz.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#77 Sep 27, 2012
Eric wrote:
I would like for gay activists via anti-bullying and GSA clubs in schools - to stay away from peoples children. These things were the brainchild of gay activist Kevin Jennings to act as a way to camoflauge getting gay-promoting materials/presentations into schools.
With your strategic, social-engineering indoctrination platforms, you gays are right on top of our kids in schools, all without parental notifications, all on the taxpayer dime.
I wouldn't mind if the Ricks in Kansas would stay the f--k away from other people's children.
Have you ever thought of seeking help for your irrational paranoia and the hate which has been born from it? If you haven't, you should, seriously.
Tyler

Harlingen, TX

#80 Oct 1, 2012
ertyui wrote:
<quoted text>
You worthless butt fu@#k%r.
When you stoop to their level, you just affirm their stereotype of straights that they use to advance their harmful agenda: that we're just intolerant, backwoods bigots incapable of love or tolerance - who live to persecute gays. That's what you're doing, you're giving them ammo.

Please don't include these type of comments here, they're only hurting the rights of those of us who resist the gay takeover of society. But you have every right to express your opinion, for the gay movement hasn't outlawed the first amendment *completely* yet.
Tyler

Harlingen, TX

#81 Oct 1, 2012
A fine job of deconstructing the gay marriage arguement if there ever was one:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tacoma-wa/T7B...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#82 Oct 1, 2012
ertyui wrote:
You worthless butt fu@#k%r.
That's sweet of you punkin, I just wish I could hold you in as high esteem as you seem to hold me.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#83 Oct 1, 2012
Tyler wrote:
When you stoop to their level, you just affirm their stereotype of straights that they use to advance their harmful agenda: that we're just intolerant, backwoods bigots incapable of love or tolerance - who live to persecute gays. That's what you're doing, you're giving them ammo.
I guess you weren't aware of this, but our dear little contributor is one of the far too many unfortunate reasons why such a stereotype can exist in the first pace. He's not stooping, what you see is what you got. He is one of the far too many unfortunate reasons why, you who do not fit the stereotype of the, "intolerant backwoods bigot incapable of love or tolerance...", but who are on the same side as that kind of ravenous hate are going to lose in the end.
Tyler wrote:
Please don't include these type of comments here, they're only hurting the rights of those of us who resist the gay takeover of society. But you have every right to express your opinion, for the gay movement hasn't outlawed the first amendment *completely* yet.
Sorry, no stuffing your crazier family members in the closet just for appearances sake. You've helped make 'em, acknowledge them, they are your cross to bear, not ours.

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