Mass. Prison Officials Appeal Sex-Cha...

Mass. Prison Officials Appeal Sex-Change Ruling

There are 35 comments on the CBS Local story from Jan 31, 2014, titled Mass. Prison Officials Appeal Sex-Change Ruling. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Massachusetts prison officials are appealing a decision that would force taxpayers to pay for a sex-change operation for a transgender inmate serving a life sentence for murder.

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Bee Eff Dee

Webster, MA

#25 Feb 3, 2014
If we keep electing do nothing, know nothing Dem Govs in this state who then appoint ultra liberal judges for lifetime jobs guess what? Nothing will ever change. Elections have consequences and judging by the last 3 Speakers of the House that have been indicted, MA doesnt mind the Progressive way of thinking here with more taxes, less jobs, and more rights for criminals than law abiding citizens. if we keep voting in Dems to control this already one party state, what do you think will change? NOTHING. And Devall patrick and others have the balls to wonder why every census, we lose congressional seats. Tax payers and jobs are fleeing this state in drove. But keep electing those Dems cause they are doing such a great job!

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#26 Feb 4, 2014
Is it any wonder why this country is broke? It's because of taxpayer dollars getting pissed away on stupid, bizarre chit like this.

God help the USA. We're screwed. Thanks libs.

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#27 Feb 4, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
Is it any wonder why this country is broke? It's because of taxpayer dollars getting pissed away on stupid, bizarre chit like this.
God help the USA. We're screwed. Thanks libs.
YEAH I'm sure it was taxpayers paying for sex changes that broke this country ! What a dumb ass you are which means it's obvious you're a republican because they're always saying stupid shit like that. I think its more likely this country is broke because of greedy money whoring GOP politicians back room deals and the 1% banking the money they steal in offshore banks.

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#28 Feb 4, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
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YEAH I'm sure it was taxpayers paying for sex changes that broke this country ! What a dumb ass you are which means it's obvious you're a republican because they're always saying stupid shit like that. I think its more likely this country is broke because of greedy money whoring GOP politicians back room deals and the 1% banking the money they steal in offshore banks.
You're obviously a stupid democrat putz, so pay attention. I never said that useless sex change operations for perverts in prison bankrupted this country. I said that we're broke because this idiot government, filled with career politicians give the green light to spend our money on stupid chit like this on a daily basis.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#29 Feb 4, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
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YEAH I'm sure it was taxpayers paying for sex changes that broke this country ! What a dumb ass you are which means it's obvious you're a republican because they're always saying stupid shit like that. I think its more likely this country is broke because of greedy money whoring GOP politicians back room deals and the 1% banking the money they steal in offshore banks.
It is just another psychological disorder and the prison system should not get involved in it. It is in that manual thing the doctors use to diagnose. His deciding he wants to be a woman now should not get him out of serving his time like he was sentenced.

302.0 Sexual orientation disturbance (Homosexuality)
This category is for individuals whose sexual interests are directed primarily toward people of the same sex and who are either disturbed by, in conflict with, or wish to change their sexual orientation.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#30 Feb 4, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
<quoted text>You're obviously a stupid democrat putz, so pay attention. I never said that useless sex change operations for perverts in prison bankrupted this country. I said that we're broke because this idiot government, filled with career politicians give the green light to spend our money on stupid chit like this on a daily basis.
I think you've been drinking too much of your name. You sound as demented as Clint Eastwood at the Republican Convention.

Since: Jul 08

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#31 Feb 4, 2014
Robert wrote:
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It is just another psychological disorder and the prison system should not get involved in it. It is in that manual thing the doctors use to diagnose. His deciding he wants to be a woman now should not get him out of serving his time like he was sentenced.
302.0 Sexual orientation disturbance (Homosexuality)
This category is for individuals whose sexual interests are directed primarily toward people of the same sex and who are either disturbed by, in conflict with, or wish to change their sexual orientation.
Obviously you're looking at extremely old information as Homosexuality was removed from the DSMV years and years ago. Also doesn't matter if GID is a psychological issue or not its still the responsibility of the prison to pay for and treat. Lastly NO ONE said she shouldn't do her time does;t mean she has to go without medical treatment or that it matter what type of prison she does her time in male or female.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#32 Feb 5, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
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Obviously you're looking at extremely old information as Homosexuality was removed from the DSMV years and years ago. Also doesn't matter if GID is a psychological issue or not its still the responsibility of the prison to pay for and treat. Lastly NO ONE said she shouldn't do her time does;t mean she has to go without medical treatment or that it matter what type of prison she does her time in male or female.
No, you don't go without medical treatment in prison but everyone knows prison medical treatment sux, just one more reason not to be a criminal. Criminals don't get the same health care that I do nor should they. I in conjunction with my doctor get to choose the therapy that I get in response to a condition. We don't do that in prisons even out of prison not all insurance companies pay for that kind of surgery. They can give him a pill and a counselor to help him cope with his alleged condition.

For all you know he just has some kind of sexual fetish for acting like that just like some people have weird sexual obsessions over all manner of fetishes. All you have to go by is what his is saying, he just does not want to live in the prison he is in. Too bad.
Shut Up You

Colonial Heights, VA

#34 Feb 5, 2014
The courts have spoken. Off with their Johnsons.
John Wayne Boppit

Colonial Heights, VA

#35 Feb 5, 2014
Liberals R Defective wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure there are members of the Mexican Mafia or the Crips and Bloods that would perform the poor souls surgery for free. All the perv has to do is ask!
Ask my ex-wife to do it. She has experience. Lord do I know.

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#36 Feb 5, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
NO ONE said she shouldn't do her time does;t mean she has to go without medical treatment or that it matter what type of prison she does her time in male or female.
This person is a guy, so stop referring to him as a "she".
Armchair Dr

Merrimack, NH

#37 Feb 7, 2014
The DSM isn't immune to political ire. In fact, nothing is... With that said, many in the scientific community have criticized the APA’s decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM IV, claiming it’s motives were more political than scientific. In fact, Dr. Ronald Bayer, author of the book, "Homosexuality and American Psychiatry" wrote the following in his book concerning that very topic:

"....The entire process, from the first confrontation organized by gay demonstrators to the referendum demanded by orthodox psychiatrists, seemed to violate the most basic expectations about how questions of science should be resolved. Instead of being engaged in sober discussion of data, psychiatrists were swept up in a political controversy. The result was not a conclusion based on an approximation of the scientific truth as dictated by reason, but was instead an action demanded by the ideological temper of the times."

Shouldn't they have used Science and not some protesters to make a decision like that?

Some have exaggerated or misrepresented these studies in attempt to prove that homosexuality is genetic. Others insist that homosexuality is developed after birth as a response to one’s environment. The truth is that we have no conclusive replicable research to prove either conclusion. If you ask me, the whole "Genetic" argument is moot. They have mapped the entire Human Genome and have not found a single Chromosome that is responsible for homosexuality.

Today, the APA recommends that if a client wants treatment to change his/her sexual orientation, the therapist should explore the reasons behind the desire.

http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/therapeu...

Why? Because, it's clearly not normal for one to want to change their Sexual identity - PERIOD!

Since: Apr 10

United States

#38 Feb 7, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
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Obviously you're looking at extremely old information as Homosexuality was removed from the DSMV years and years ago. Also doesn't matter if GID is a psychological issue or not its still the responsibility of the prison to pay for and treat. Lastly NO ONE said she shouldn't do her time does;t mean she has to go without medical treatment or that it matter what type of prison she does her time in male or female.
Hi Brandi, as you know I dissagree with nearly all you post. It was strange to find myself agreeing with every word you have posted in this thread. What we are seeing here is the same thing we see in everyday life with uninformed people making judgments based on their feelings and zero information. Every treatment to "cure" the brain in people with GID has been tried in the last 100 years. among those that were tried and didnt work are electro shock. gobs of drugs, being locked in a mental instution for life and labomity, at best they made the person forget who there were but they were in every case still idenitifying with the other gender. Transition has a 99.7% success rate. Transition is expensive if one is paying out of pocket. Its true cost in $$ is about the same as the brand new off the show room floor fully loaded F150 my brother bought a few months ago. as far as medical issues go thats cheap. A good friend of mine just had an issue and now has a bill of about what a new house costs.
what these people dont relize is medical care is by law to be provided to inmates. A death row inmate that has a heart attack 10 seconds before the leathel injection needle is put in their arm will be taken to have a few hundred thousand dollars of medical procedures done to keep them alive long enough for the state to kill them. One case such as that pays for many GRS procedures. A math lesson to everyone. A government does not go broke paying for surgerys that cost between $25,000 and $80,000 for a few. they go broke by spending more money than they take in by doing things like billion dollar bail outs and paying millions or billions of dollars on pork projects.
I am not for the death penitaly, I would rather see someone have to live a long and healthy life inside the walls of a prison suffering the stuff that goes on there and having to think about their actions until they die a natural death when they are old age. This person was convicted by a jury of their peers so the evidence says they did the crime (if they did it or not is between them and whatever diety they worship) part of their being in prison is getting all medicaly nessary procedures and drugs. same as every other inmate. in this case that means GRS as it has been deemed medicaly nessary by docters AND judges.
Again Brandi it is a nice change to be agreeing with you :)
Open Minded

Wareham, MA

#39 Mar 25, 2014
Brandi Parker wrote:
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Well in answer to your question "YES" Massachusetts passed a law that requires ALL insurance companies doing business in the state of Mass to cover all transgender transitional surgeries and medication so even if she were not in prison Insurance in Mass would be required to cover the surgery.
OH by the way for your 411 there are five other states that also have this insurance requirement they are Washington, California,Vermont, Colorado, Delaware. Also you should known that this is the tern and will continue and that the federal government as part of the new healthcare law requires all healthcare exchanges to cover all transgender transitional related needs. Things are getting better everyday @ least from my point of view.
Although I believe that it is one's right to seek a transgender operation and am supportive of each person to be who they are (without harm to ever be caused to another), I do not support this being covered by tax payers. Such a surgery being covered by insurance period should be questionable. I do need to educate myself more on the physical/mental reasoning and why it is supported....but WANTING to be something other than how you are born is a choice. I choose to have less saggy, wrinkly skin and a firmer butt, and the aging process and the genetic flat ass that has been extended to me hurts my self image and psyche. But, life, DNA and nature has made me what I am or how I look. If it is not a life threatening situation (such as a mastectomy or reconstructive surgery in a health nature....then I don't believe or find it fair nor constitutional that it should be on the labor and taxpaying citizens to cover the cost of such a thing. I'm not saying something like, let them all spread aids to each other and all this other derogatory bullshit. But, I do not want my hard earned dollars to pay for something like this. A child's vaccination or women's health, etc, I can support. But this is ridiculous. I can't even afford to pay off student loans and put a roof over my head and the state is after me for overdue taxes and THIS is how it is spent????? NOT ACCEPTABLE!
Dubya Tee Eff

Webster, MA

#40 Mar 26, 2014
And people in MA have the balls to wonder why the rest of the country laughs at us....

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