Police union leader criticized for sa...

Police union leader criticized for saying he won't honor law

There are 138 comments on the The Honolulu Advertiser story from Nov 6, 2013, titled Police union leader criticized for saying he won't honor law. In it, The Honolulu Advertiser reports that:

Tenari Ma'afala, president of the State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers, told a joint House committee that he does not oppose the gay lifestyle, but is against same-sex marriage.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#27 Nov 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I want to hear what "Marvin" thinks characterizes this "gay lifestyle".
MY "gay lifestyle" consists of ANTHRAX, MEGADETH, cats, and beer !:)

"WE'RE ON AN EXPRESS ELEVATOR TO HELL ! GOIN DOWN !" WOO-HOO !:)

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#28 Nov 8, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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If Ma'afala cannot separate his religion from his government job; he will have to be replaced by someone who CAN
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That can be done by conducting a special election as soon as possible
Special election for what? He's not an elected official, hes a cop and the president of the police officer's union...so good luck with getting a union President ousted, dummy.

He testified as an individual expressing his own opinion just as the thousands of other testifiers...all were exercising their right to free speech. Got a problem with that?

In your warped mind, free speech is only allowed if it agrees with your gay agenda.

btw, I dare you say that to his face!!

Since: Mar 09

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#30 Nov 8, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
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Special election for what? He's not an elected official, hes a cop and the president of the police officer's union...so good luck with getting a union President ousted, dummy.
He testified as an individual expressing his own opinion just as the thousands of other testifiers...all were exercising their right to free speech. Got a problem with that?
In your warped mind, free speech is only allowed if it agrees with your gay agenda.
btw, I dare you say that to his face!!
Actually, a Civil Servant may not engage in any form of public political action other than the secret ballot. It's one of the limitations they voluntarily accept with the job.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#31 Nov 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
I'm still trying to grasp just what these people mean by "the gay lifestyle".
Don't try.......idiots who make that claim DON'T understand that one's "LIFESTYLE" is NOT the same as who one is.......and all these idiots do is continue to prove just how much animus they have towards Gays and Lesbians.

Personally I think these IDIOTS should Boycott ANYTHING that supports Gays and Lesbians, their families and their rights.........I suggest they boycott breathing.......that will help diminish their problems......lol!!!

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#32 Nov 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Actually, a Civil Servant may not engage in any form of public political action other than the secret ballot. It's one of the limitations they voluntarily accept with the job.
As a PRIVATE citizen he can say whatevah he wants and Id like to see you try and stop him. buwahahaa.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#33 Nov 8, 2013
Free speech is not limited to pro-gay speech.

Yeah, that's right!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#34 Nov 9, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
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As a PRIVATE citizen he can say whatevah he wants and Id like to see you try and stop him. buwahahaa.
Law Enforcement personnel are NEVER off-duty.
Sam

Honolulu, HI

#35 Nov 9, 2013
A police officer who says he won't obey the law is a tyrant. Just what does Maafala plan to do to use his official position as a police officer against gay married couples? If I had my "druthers", there would be no need for gay marriage- but I'm not gay and don't plan to be married. Yet, as a police officer, gays deserve equal rights. And this let the people vote thing, they voted for representatives to make the laws, so the people have essentially voted through their representatives- If people don't have the wisdom to vote for representatives who represent them- why should they decide on who should get married? What if the people were allowed to vote on an issue that gets on the ballot, making marriage in Hawaii only legal for 100% Hawaiian blood original people? Just a thought.
Sam

Honolulu, HI

#37 Nov 9, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
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As a PRIVATE citizen he can say whatevah he wants and Id like to see you try and stop him. buwahahaa.
Yes he can speak as a private citizen- but should not speak politics dressed in a police uniform or being on the job in any capacity(inside the police office or in a police vehicle); that is not associated with anything with respect to his nonpolitical, nonreligious public position. Police Union leaders are police first and should stand up for the laws not against them. When I heard him speak, my thought was- "a little more Christian humility is needed there".

Since: Mar 09

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#39 Nov 9, 2013
Sam wrote:
<quoted text> Yes he can speak as a private citizen- but should not speak politics dressed in a police uniform or being on the job in any capacity(inside the police office or in a police vehicle); that is not associated with anything with respect to his nonpolitical, nonreligious public position. Police Union leaders are police first and should stand up for the laws not against them. When I heard him speak, my thought was- "a little more Christian humility is needed there".
In California, that in-uniform distinction doesn't exist, and never has.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#40 Nov 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Law Enforcement personnel are NEVER off-duty.
LOL!!! Now youre desperately grasping at straws.

LOL!!!!

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#41 Nov 9, 2013
Sam wrote:
<quoted text> Yes he can speak as a private citizen- but should not speak politics dressed in a police uniform or being on the job in any capacity(inside the police office or in a police vehicle); that is not associated with anything with respect to his nonpolitical, nonreligious public position. Police Union leaders are police first and should stand up for the laws not against them. When I heard him speak, my thought was- "a little more Christian humility is needed there".
He wasn't in uniform, you anti-free speech moron!

At any rate, he said what he said Deal with it....and the majority of residents agree with him.

MAAFALA 2014!!

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#42 Nov 9, 2013
Opinion wrote:
SILENCE HIM!!! How dare he speak his mind in America. This is the new Obamamerica, where opinions contrary to the politically correct communists must be squelched!
Didn't you know?? in Obamanation bad is good and good is bad.
Sam

Honolulu, HI

#44 Nov 9, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
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He wasn't in uniform, you anti-free speech moron!
At any rate, he said what he said Deal with it....and the majority of residents agree with him.
MAAFALA 2014!!
I hope you're not suggesting that one so narrow-minded as to place himself above the rights of other citizens, should run for public office. This thing of Maafala invoking God and calling on himself to be killed was dramatic but awfully self-serving; actions which have no place in the equity of public service.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#46 Nov 9, 2013
Sam wrote:
<quoted text> I hope you're not suggesting that one so narrow-minded as to place himself above the rights of other citizens, should run for public office. This thing of Maafala invoking God and calling on himself to be killed was dramatic but awfully self-serving; actions which have no place in the equity of public service.
Boohoohoo, need a hanky?

Your definition of narrow-minded is anyone that expresses opposition to your gay lifestyle.

News alert: Not everyone are PC dorks who will bite their tongue.. to avoid offending YOU GAYS. Freedom of speech includes freedom to disagree with your abnormal lifestyle. Deal with it.
Tory

Honolulu, HI

#47 Nov 9, 2013
Marvin wrote:
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The lifestyle you and your butt buddies live. That would be one of deviance, perversion, and forcing sickness on others.
Now wait a minute with the perversion talk. Since when are sexual acts so pure?-- I mean just saw the hetero petting of the couple at the streetlight as I waited behind them. The guy had his hand all down the pants in the butt of the gal, running his finger up and down her split- sure looked perverted and funky germy nasty to me. Now this was standing at the light- in private it can get even uglier. Sex done in privacy between 2 consenting adults, is ok by me. I just don't want to see any of the crap in public(that's what I call forcing sickness on others. What really bugs me also is folks slinging all the nasty hair around that has probably been up some sex partner's butt( perverted,sick, nasty and applies to gays and straights). I find myself ducking to keep from getting slapped in the face as with a horse's tail. Nasty.
Eliot

Paris, France

#48 Nov 10, 2013
Saunders wrote:
Hawaii needs more great men like Tenari Ma'afala!
Yeah, great men are always welcome :p
District 1

Kihei, HI

#49 Nov 10, 2013
Tory wrote:
<quoted text> Now wait a minute with the perversion talk. Since when are sexual acts so pure?-- I mean just saw the hetero petting of the couple at the streetlight as I waited behind them. The guy had his hand all down the pants in the butt of the gal, running his finger up and down her split- sure looked perverted and funky germy nasty to me. Now this was standing at the light- in private it can get even uglier. Sex done in privacy between 2 consenting adults, is ok by me. I just don't want to see any of the crap in public(that's what I call forcing sickness on others. What really bugs me also is folks slinging all the nasty hair around that has probably been up some sex partner's butt( perverted,sick, nasty and applies to gays and straights). I find myself ducking to keep from getting slapped in the face as with a horse's tail. Nasty.
So you object to "Pride Parades" where lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgendered individuals shove their practices publicly into the face of onlookers and the news media to make a point?
So do I.
Grow up Grownup

Los Angeles, CA

#51 Nov 10, 2013
District 1 wrote:
<quoted text>So you object to "Pride Parades" where lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgendered individuals shove their practices publicly into the face of onlookers and the news media to make a point?
So do I.
So look away, turn the channel or keep your head buried in subjects that don't frighten you.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#52 Nov 10, 2013
Sam wrote:
And this let the people vote thing, they voted for representatives to make the laws,
False. Most voters don't have a person running for an office that represent their ideals. In fact, many elected officials get re-elected because they run unopposed.

I didn't like either McCain or Obama. Who is representing me?
I didn't like Barney Frank. He ran unopposed in another district, he wasn't on my ballot. I didn't like Mitt Romney but he was elected governor, he didn't represent me. Elected official represent themselves, no one else.

Mitch McConnell said we have to stop spending while he was dragging his feet on the debt limit. He got over $2 billion for a damn in his state for his vote. What does a dam in KY do for me? How does it represent me?

“In exchange for funding Obamacare and raising the debt limit, Mitch McConnell has secured a $2 billion earmark.”
http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/guess-wh...

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