Is liberal Christianity signing its o...

Is liberal Christianity signing its own death warrant?

There are 143 comments on the www.virtueonline.org story from Jul 26, 2012, titled Is liberal Christianity signing its own death warrant?. In it, www.virtueonline.org reports that:

The Rt. Rev. Mark Joseph Lawrence, the Episcopal bishop of South Carolina, fears for the future of his church.

One week after the U.S. Episcopal Church overwhelmingly voted to approve a provisional rite for blessing gay unions and the ordination of transgender people, Bishop Lawrence said in an interview with NBC News that his denomination is moving too far out of the mainstream ...

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#127 Feb 7, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>Hey christard... it was adam and Lilith
Dear Lil,

Not many understand this.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#128 Feb 7, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Dear Lil,
Not many understand this.
lol.. i know ..lol
Dubya

Thailand

#129 Feb 7, 2013
Please notice that the "esteemed" bishop is from South Carolina, perhaps one of the most backward communities in regards to civil and human rights. To give this man ANY publicity for his antediluvian views is disgusting. Please, let's be just a little more discerning in media events; this definitely is one that deserves no notice at all. Any idiot can get on a soap box.

“Don't steal my happy”

Since: Aug 12

Shelbyville, Ky.

#130 Feb 7, 2013
We will all pass from this world. Fact. So to end the pointless bickering, why don't we just say that each of us will believe as we see fit, and then we'll see who's right when we get there. There's no arguement over the fact that HE will sort it out, right?

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#131 Feb 7, 2013
Angel Diva wrote:
We will all pass from this world. Fact. So to end the pointless bickering, why don't we just say that each of us will believe as we see fit, and then we'll see who's right when we get there. There's no arguement over the fact that HE will sort it out, right?
Finding each other, in Christ, is important, Ms. Diva.

But, I believe you are sincere and are seeking just this.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#132 Feb 7, 2013
Angel Diva wrote:
We will all pass from this world. Fact. So to end the pointless bickering, why don't we just say that each of us will believe as we see fit, and then we'll see who's right when we get there. There's no arguement over the fact that HE will sort it out, right?
hey i lived in shelbyville ky once

“Don't steal my happy”

Since: Aug 12

Shelbyville, Ky.

#133 Feb 7, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>hey i lived in shelbyville ky once
Really? Cool, when? I can't say that I blame you for moving on though.:D Lol!

“Don't steal my happy”

Since: Aug 12

Shelbyville, Ky.

#134 Feb 7, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Finding each other, in Christ, is important, Ms. Diva.
But, I believe you are sincere and are seeking just this.
I completely agree, Rev. And yes I am. Also, I'm sincerely sorry for being so blunt, but I just get so tired of hearing the names of God and the Christ coming from the same mouths that so freely spew hate and judgment.

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#135 Feb 8, 2013
Angel Diva wrote:
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I completely agree, Rev. And yes I am. Also, I'm sincerely sorry for being so blunt, but I just get so tired of hearing the names of God and the Christ coming from the same mouths that so freely spew hate and judgment.
Don't worry about it.

It is enough just to keep your head and heart and remain settled in faith, despite the emotions and the passions of others.

Just be glad you can occasionally find people who are motivated to persevere. It is no different today than it was two thousand years ago. Same issues.

But, we do have the advantage of learning and dispensing with old taboos, fears and superstitions, some of which are very precious holdings to a lot of good people.

Light & Love,

Rev. Ken

“"And Stay Off"”

Since: May 12

Tempe Arizona

#136 Feb 8, 2013
Angel Diva wrote:
We will all pass from this world. Fact. So to end the pointless bickering, why don't we just say that each of us will believe as we see fit, and then we'll see who's right when we get there. There's no arguement over the fact that HE will sort it out, right?
Get where? And just who will sort it out? Zeus? Allah? Or any other of the to many to list numerous gods to list? How about we live and let live and try to not be so judgmental and espouse such hatred! The vast majority of gays just like the vast majority of heteros are good decent,caring people,even though that's hard to tell by all the hatred being posted here! Most of these so called Christians don't even follow what their Jesus taught! They should worry about themselves instead of judging others!
Chance

Grove City, PA

#137 Feb 8, 2013
You Kids Get Off My Lawn wrote:
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Get where? And just who will sort it out? Zeus? Allah? Or any other of the to many to list numerous gods to list? How about we live and let live and try to not be so judgmental and espouse such hatred! The vast majority of gays just like the vast majority of heteros are good decent,caring people,even though that's hard to tell by all the hatred being posted here! Most of these so called Christians don't even follow what their Jesus taught! They should worry about themselves instead of judging others!
They also have an obligation to worry about their churches. If they find themselves in a church that is straying from biblical teaching, they should not support that church not should they trust its leaders. I thinks millions of Christians are doing just that and leaving liberal churches for those who adhere more closely to regarding the Bible as the true and inspired word of God that says what it means and means what is says.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#138 Feb 8, 2013
If they find themselves in a church that is straying from biblical teaching, they should not support that church not should they trust its leaders.

Sorry, should say NOR should they trust its leaders.

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#139 Feb 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
If they find themselves in a church that is straying from biblical teaching, they should not support that church not should they trust its leaders.
Sorry, should say NOR should they trust its leaders.
Well,... That's the problem, isn't it?

Straying from the Teachings of Christ Jesus?

And mixing those with the teachings of Paul? And the Law of Moses? And interpreting the value and pertinence of myth and allegory?

The easy way out, but not the right way, is to simply declare that scripture is the ultimate Authority.

That is where the free-for-all begins.

Rev. Ken
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#140 Feb 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
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They also have an obligation to worry about their churches. If they find themselves in a church that is straying from biblical teaching, they should not support that church not should they trust its leaders. I thinks millions of Christians are doing just that and leaving liberal churches for those who adhere more closely to regarding the Bible as the true and inspired word of God that says what it means and means what is says.
Check out who GOD picked to compile and publish the 'inspired Word of GOD'
http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012...
itz

Roseville, MI

#141 Feb 8, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Dear Lil,
Not many understand this.
Adam & Lilith?

Do tell... There is so much of your worldview that is unknown to Christians
itz

Roseville, MI

#142 Feb 8, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Well,... That's the problem, isn't it?
Straying from the Teachings of Christ Jesus?
And mixing those with the teachings of Paul? And the Law of Moses? And interpreting the value and pertinence of myth and allegory?
The easy way out, but not the right way, is to simply declare that scripture is the ultimate Authority.
That is where the free-for-all begins.
Rev. Ken
Like these comments. Most Christins come from traditions that dont pit Christ, Paul and Moses against one another. They have reconciled scripture and dont "declare that scripture is the ultimate Authority" - rather they use cripture, tradition and reason...and have een doing this since Christianities inception.

Far from being a free for all...it is a very serious and exacting proposition.

The "free for all" begins when entire passages, prophets, books & letters are dismissed as irrelevant or outdated or the like.

The cafateria apporach to Christianity is not represented in history or by sizable denominations.

Groups like the episcopalians tat have taken this approach are loosing members and falling into open schism.

Since: Aug 09

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#143 Feb 8, 2013
itz wrote:
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Adam & Lilith?
Do tell... There is so much of your worldview that is unknown to Christians
Look it up, yourself. Don't take my word for it.

It is a part of Hebrew mythology, just as is Adam and Eve.

Isaiah 34:14
Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#144 Feb 8, 2013
itz wrote:
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Like these comments. Most Christins come from traditions that dont pit Christ, Paul and Moses against one another. They have reconciled scripture and dont "declare that scripture is the ultimate Authority" - rather they use cripture, tradition and reason...and have een doing this since Christianities inception.
Far from being a free for all...it is a very serious and exacting proposition.
The "free for all" begins when entire passages, prophets, books & letters are dismissed as irrelevant or outdated or the like.
Like when the church played "pick&choose" about which books to include in the Buybull?
itz

Roseville, MI

#145 Feb 8, 2013
On the contrary,when the early Christian councils compiled the scriptures they did not "pick and choose" as they could have.

Like what is called the "Gnostic Gospels" were popular at he time yet they did not make it into the cannon.

Actual archelogical evidence exists from these councils and they reveal that those early Christian leaders only picked those books that were universally agreed upon for reliability and sourced texts.

While multiple participants at these councils liked different books, and some books had more tan majority support...only those books that were universally agreed upon were included.
itz

Roseville, MI

#146 Feb 8, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Look it up, yourself. Don't take my word for it.
It is a part of Hebrew mythology, just as is Adam and Eve.
Isaiah 34:14
Hebrew "mythology" ..I thought as a "reverend" you actually belived in the old and new testement, rather than considering it myth on par with Greek & Roman Gods.. My mistake.

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