NY considers Medicaid for transgender surgery

Sep 29, 2011 Full story: CBS News 40

A panel advising Gov. Andrew Cuomo on ways to revamp Medicaid has proposed that the program that pays for low-income residents' health care cover surgery and therapy for transgender New Yorkers.

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FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 Sep 29, 2011
Transgenderism is likely caused by toxic metals mercury and aluminum which are vaccine ingredients. Formaldehyde also a vac ingredient and the 2 metals are endocrine disruptors. Endocrine disruption interferes with hormones that define and control male and female gender specifics. Given to babies during a period of important development likely causes gender confusion.
MissAndrea

San Diego, CA

#3 Sep 30, 2011
Since we don't need any research to backup our statements apparently... I am going to say transsexualism is caused by Solar Flares...if a fetus is exposed to solar flares at very specific times during development, the lymbic system can not develop properly...fact.

Transgenderism on the other hand is likely caused by flourinated water supplies/and/or the chemical BPA on receipts...causing a disruption of the endocrine system...

See....I can pretend to be a scientist too!
FBOMBER wrote:
Transgenderism is likely caused by toxic metals mercury and aluminum which are vaccine ingredients. Formaldehyde also a vac ingredient and the 2 metals are endocrine disruptors. Endocrine disruption interferes with hormones that define and control male and female gender specifics. Given to babies during a period of important development likely causes gender confusion.

“Transsexual equality ”

Since: Jun 11

Greenwood, florida

#4 Sep 30, 2011
MissAndrea wrote:
Since we don't need any research to backup our statements apparently... I am going to say transsexualism is caused by Solar Flares...if a fetus is exposed to solar flares at very specific times during development, the lymbic system can not develop properly...fact.
Transgenderism on the other hand is likely caused by flourinated water supplies/and/or the chemical BPA on receipts...causing a disruption of the endocrine system...
See....I can pretend to be a scientist too!
<quoted text>
somehow i think that no amount of research would be sufficient for you. but seeing how you implied that there is no research on this subject maybe this will enlighten you . i doubt it though.
It's a fact that harmful chemicals like DDT are responsible for certain intersex conditions, but have the increased presence of human-made chemicals in the environment created a rise in the transgender population? For an environmental perspective on the incidence of transsexuality and intersexuality, read Christine Johnson's Endocrine Disruptors and the Transgendered. Johnson is a co-founder of TransAdvocate, an educational and advocatory site about endocrine disruptors and trans civil rights.
By Christine Johnson

Despite popular opinion and negative media portrayals which disparage transgendered people as being "mentally ill" or making "lifestyle choices," an increasing amount of evidence is surfacing which is linking the proliferation of endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) to variations in gender identity and sexual orientation. In an invited paper published in the December 2001 issue of Neuroendocrinology Letters, Dr. Günter Dörner outlines the various purported causes of transsexualism, which fall into two general classes: 1) genetic enzyme mutations and 2) so-called epigenetic effects which include stressful prenatal/postnatal situations and fetal exposure to endocrine disruptors such as the pesticide DDT and its breakdown products.
The authors studied the prevalence of polycystic ovaries (PCO), idiopathic oligospermia [low sperm count with no identified cause](IO), and transsexualism (TS) in East and West Germany over the last 50 years, and correlated increases in these conditions with the use of DDT in the two countries. They found that after 1960,(when DDT usage was high) "clearly increased dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate [DHEA-s] levels and ratios to cortisol were found, suggesting again the possible co-responsibility of DDT and its metabolites for the development of transsexualism." They also found that PCO commonly occurred in combination with female-to-male transsexualism, and IO typically occurred in combination with male-to-female transsexualism, suggesting multiple effects from endocrine disruption.
As for the effect of these chemicals on the brain during development, several studies have been performed which examined various areas of the hypothalamus— a section of the brain involved in gender and sex— to see if any sex differences were present. In a 1995 article published in Nature entitled "A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality," the authors showed that male-to-female transsexuals have female numbers of neurons in a region of the hypothalamus known as the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc).[Reprinted in the International Journal of Transgenderism, and available online at http://www.symposion.com/ijt/ijtc0106.htm .] A later study found that a female-to-male transsexual had male numbers of neurons in this region, supporting the idea that this brain region is responsible for gender identity in humans. Similar structures have been identified in animals which corroborate these findings.

“Transsexual equality ”

Since: Jun 11

Greenwood, florida

#5 Sep 30, 2011
Over the last decade, a significant amount of research has been performed showing that EDCs are having a major impact on sexuality and reproduction in wildlife. In the UK, alkylphenols and phthalates have been identified as the prime suspects for feminized fish in some areas. These chemicals are persistent breakdown products of alkylphenol ethoxylates, chemicals used in industrial detergents and as inert ingredients in pesticides. In Florida, an extensive spill of DDT and dicofol in Lake Apopka resulted in male alligators with abnormally small penises, abnormalities of the testes, and altered levels of sex hormones. Male gulls in the Great Lakes region of the US have been found to have "female (ovarian) type structures," due to high levels of DDT and DDE in the eggs. Male Florida Panthers have been found to have undescended testicles and a number of reproductive problems, and both males and females are found to contain high levels of several endocrine disrupting chemicals. For a more comprehensive review, see Poisoning the Future: Impacts of Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals on Wildlife and Human Health.
Regarding the situation in the Northwest, a study was published in Environmental Health Perspectives which showed that 84% of genetically male Chinook salmon appeared to be female in the Columbia river. Regarding the cause, lead author James J. Nagler of the University of Idaho reports that pesticides and other chemicals that are estrogenic have been detected in the river and may play a role in this observed sex-reversal.[Source: "Sex Changed Salmon," in Scientific American online.]
In the laboratory, similar results are found when animals are exposed to hormone disrupting chemicals. In her book Our Stolen Future, author Theo Colborn relates the story of two Syracuse University researchers, who in 1950 injected roosters with DDT for two to three months. They found that the roosters’ testicles only reached 18% of the size of the controls, and the typical male secondary sex characteristics were significantly suppressed. It is interesting to note that Harry Benjamin, a New York endocrinologist and sexologist who wrote the first modern work on transsexualism, The Transsexual Phenomenon in 1966, found that 40% of his male-to-female and 45% of his female-to-male patients had some degree of hypogonadism (reduced size of testicles/ovaries).
But despite the 1972 ban on DDT in the US, the chemical and its metabolites keep showing up in pregnant women. A 2000 study published in The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism measured the levels of several pesticides in amniotic fluid during the second trimester. The authors found that "…approximately one out of three human fetuses in Los Angeles is exposed to p,p’-DDE [a DDT breakdown product] at physiologically relevant levels." They also added "Although we did not test for adverse health effects in this phase of the study, the concentrations of contaminants measured are sufficient to be cause for alarm." [Source Abstract]
However, DDT is hardly the only endocrine disruptor in existence. Our Stolen Future’s website lists 85 chemicals which are known to be endocrine disruptors or classes of chemicals such as PCBs and dioxins, which have many variants. Phthalates are often used in plastic food packaging as a softener, and Bisphenol-A is used to line metal cans to eliminate the metallic taste and is commonly found in resins, plastics and dental sealants. Mercury is one of the most widespread EDCs, being present in dental amalgam and childhood vaccines, and lead is commonly found in Seattle water, reportedly due to the corrosion of lead in home plumbing because corrosive chemicals are used for disinfecting the water.

“Transsexual equality ”

Since: Jun 11

Greenwood, florida

#6 Sep 30, 2011
[Source] Mercury is a special case, in that it is the only known endocrine disruptor which is deliberately implanted in the body.(dental amalgam contains 50% mercury) The pesticides, of which there are many, are intentionally released into the environment, often in homes and schools. Additionally, the vast majority of chemicals currently in production have never been tested for endocrine disruption effects.
So is it a coincidence that since the introduction of the chlorinated pesticides around 1935-1940 that the rate of transsexualism has been climbing steadily? The first generation born after the introduction of pesticides was also the first generation to have significant numbers of transsexuals. The condition is virtually absent from the US historical record prior to 1952, when Christine Jorgensen made headlines. Every generation since has had higher and higher rates. Clearly researchers knew that sexual developmental changes were observed with DDT in animals as early as 1950, yet this information was ignored, deliberately or not. Fifty years later, large numbers and quantities of EDCs are being distributed around the globe without adequate consideration of the consequences.
This line of inquiry which is examining the relationship between EDCs and transsexualism has an obvious relationship to the civil rights and social perceptions of transsexuals. It will likely lead toward restoration of full civil rights as the law catches up with emerging science, and should also increase understanding among the general public as more evidence is uncovered and as doctors improve their understanding of the specific biochemical changes and structural effects that are associated with exposure to EDCs during development. For more information on this topic, visit http://www.antijen.org/transadvocate — a transgender advocacy group co-founded by myself and Angela Kimble— with the mission of educating the transgendered community and the general public about the relationship between endocrine disruptors and gender variance, and to advocate on behalf of the transgendered community for full civil rights.

if you need more scientific research , even though it wont matter how much i show you, just let me know and i will post if for you, miss Andrea
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#7 Sep 30, 2011
MissAndrea wrote:
Since we don't need any research to backup our statements apparently... I am going to say transsexualism is caused by Solar Flares...if a fetus is exposed to solar flares at very specific times during development, the lymbic system can not develop properly...fact.
Transgenderism on the other hand is likely caused by flourinated water supplies/and/or the chemical BPA on receipts...causing a disruption of the endocrine system...
See....I can pretend to be a scientist too!
<quoted text>
Look it up tool.

“More Awesome Than Thou”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#8 Oct 1, 2011
I guess sarcasm isn't in your vocabulary...allow me to paste in a brief definition for you..

sar·casm Noun: The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

Enjoy....

A.
Donna SwtTgrl wrote:
<quoted text>somehow i think that no amount of research would be sufficient for you. but seeing how you implied that there is no research on this subject maybe this will enlighten you . i doubt it though.
It's a fact that harmful chemicals like DDT are responsible for certain intersex conditions, but have the increased presence of human-made chemicals in the environment created a rise in the transgender population? For an environmental perspective on the incidence of transsexuality and intersexuality, read Christine Johnson's Endocrine Disruptors and the Transgendered. Johnson is a co-founder of TransAdvocate, an educational and advocatory site about endocrine disruptors and trans civil rights.
By Christine Johnson
Despite popular opinion and negative media portrayals which disparage transgendered people as being "mentally ill" or making "lifestyle choices," an increasing amount of evidence is surfacing which is linking the proliferation of endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) to variations in gender identity and sexual orientation. In an invited paper published in the December 2001 issue of Neuroendocrinology Letters, Dr. Günter Dörner outlines the various purported causes of transsexualism, which fall into two general classes: 1) genetic enzyme mutations and 2) so-called epigenetic effects which include stressful prenatal/postnatal situations and fetal exposure to endocrine disruptors such as the pesticide DDT and its breakdown products.
The authors studied the prevalence of polycystic ovaries (PCO), idiopathic oligospermia [low sperm count with no identified cause](IO), and transsexualism (TS) in East and West Germany over the last 50 years, and correlated increases in these conditions with the use of DDT in the two countries. They found that after 1960,(when DDT usage was high) "clearly increased dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate [DHEA-s] levels and ratios to cortisol were found, suggesting again the possible co-responsibility of DDT and its metabolites for the development of transsexualism." They also found that PCO commonly occurred in combination with female-to-male transsexualism, and IO typically occurred in combination with male-to-female transsexualism, suggesting multiple effects from endocrine disruption.
As for the effect of these chemicals on the brain during development, several studies have been performed which examined various areas of the hypothalamus— a section of the brain involved in gender and sex— to see if any sex differences were present. In a 1995 article published in Nature entitled "A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality," the authors showed that male-to-female transsexuals have female numbers of neurons in a region of the hypothalamus known as the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc).[Reprinted in the International Journal of Transgenderism, and available online at http://www.symposion.com/ijt/ijtc0106.htm .] A later study found that a female-to-male transsexual had male numbers of neurons in this region, supporting the idea that this brain region is responsible for gender identity in humans. Similar structures have been identified in animals which corroborate these findings.

“More Awesome Than Thou”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#9 Oct 1, 2011
Provide solid research linking it to vaccine please...
The problem with blaming everything on vaccine is 75% of the idiots in america will believe it...
FBOMBER wrote:
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Look it up tool.

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#10 Oct 1, 2011
Perhaps this anti vaccine propaganda is a ruse to fool the stupid people in the world to avoid vaccinations, thus reducing their number? It's back door eugenics!!

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#11 Oct 1, 2011
and, oh, by the way, the Washington Post reported that, no surprise to me, the Cuomo administration shot down that recommendation the day after it came out. They aren't going to go out on a limb to help a poverty stricken, tiny minority like transsexual people. There's no political upside to it.

They'd rather pay for the anti-depressants and the vice squad along with the hospital costs for HIV infected people who got that way sharing needles to inject illegal estrogen or industrial grade silicone. Just like they'd rather pay for welfare and medicaid instead of passing a nondiscrimination law that protects people on the basis of gender identity. After all, what's it to them if transsexual people can't find a decent job, get sick and die?

I've been fighting to keep my cynicism from degenerating into outright bitterness but the way things are going, I'm fighting a losing battle.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#12 Oct 2, 2011
I would think this would be a no-brainer. They pay for a multitude of treatments/therapies/surgeries to treat a multitude of illness/conditions/birth-defec ts, etc.

How would these treatments be any different than any other?

If you have a treatable issue that restricts your life in a profound way, you should be able to receive treatment to correct it, in the best way, and using the best science available available.

Why is this such an issue?

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#13 Oct 2, 2011
Quest wrote:
I would think this would be a no-brainer. They pay for a multitude of treatments/therapies/surgeries to treat a multitude of illness/conditions/birth-defec ts, etc.
How would these treatments be any different than any other?
If you have a treatable issue that restricts your life in a profound way, you should be able to receive treatment to correct it, in the best way, and using the best science available available.
Why is this such an issue?
Transphobia and bigotry, pure & simple, Quest. Because it's still perfectly fine to abuse and denigrate trans people, particularly trans women, in open public debate. Because people still think trans people are just extreme gays who want to fool people into thinking they're straight. Because any man who changes into a woman is obviously a traitor to the patriarchy.

You're right - it should be a no-brainer - but prejudice and animosity fueled by fear borne out of ignorance stand in the way.

“Purple girl in a purple world”

Since: Apr 08

Plum, Purplonia

#14 Mar 20, 2012
There is no such thing as "transgender surgery." That seems to be the insane ramblings of a semen-intoxicated CBS reporter. Transgenders never get surgery. They are gender-variant men who live as women and who are a part of the Queer community. Only transsexuals get the surgery.

While a "MtF" TG is queer man who lives as a woman, a MtF TS woman is a mainstream woman born wrongly with the wrong parts. Transsexualism is a medical condition, and transgenderism is a choice.

Oh, and TS surgery - Sex Reassignment Surgery is medically necessary. It should never be called Gender Reassignment, since gender is permanently wired in the brain before birth and can never change while physical sex can be corrected. Getting the surgery is not about looks, but about having the correct body. Any insurance that pays for repairing facial deformities like cleft lip should be required to pay for this. The hormone treatment affects ever cell in the body, not just breasts, but affects strength, appearance, smell, mood, and level of sexual interest.

You rarely hear of true-TS women being arrested for sex crimes because the levels of hormones they must take to get results to even marginally make them appear more like other women renders all their junk unusable. That is why so many TG men in drag refuse hormones and go right for breast implants, since they love using their junk and partially "transition" for sexual reasons.

I told before of a case where a TS woman with diabetes, depression, heart disease, hypertension, and maybe other things had greatly improved health and was less of a burden on insurance AFTER transition. She went from $200+/mo. on meds to maybe $50/mo., just from starting hormones. She changed BP medicines to an older one which was much cheaper than what she was on. That same medicine is given to transsexual women to reduce male hormones. As a result of the improved interest and having the correct hormones to match who she was, her depression lifted, she felt more pride in herself, and she lost a lot of weight. Losing all that weight improved her diabetes to the point where she could control it with diet alone.

In other cases, transsexual treatment reduces/prevents criminality. In one case, a TS was assaulted by her wife as a hate crime, and she defended herself and her wife died. She was convicted of murder, just for being a TS and the court not believing her story. Had she had her condition corrected around the time of puberty, that would have never happened. Or take the TS who went to the UK to get away from dominant, bossy, controlling friends and to be able to transition in peace. Well, had she transitioned sooner and had the courage, things would never have reached the point where she permanently injured one of these "friends" after they moved over too. If correcting this condition was more acceptable, she could have told them to get lost while still living in the US. But she was charged in the UK with GBH (what we call aggravated assault here). Or take the OKC bomber. They had undiagnosed gender dysphoria, and had it been treated, a lot of people would still be alive.

I have no connection with Purple Speaks, but you might want to look up that blog. I think it is at Wordpress.
Mitt s Santorum Slippage

Wilmington, DE

#15 Mar 20, 2012
Purple Gurl wrote:
There is no such thing....
Hey, it's batsht crazy poster!

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Since: Feb 09

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#16 Mar 20, 2012
Purple Gurl wrote:
There is no such thing as "transgender surgery." That seems to be the insane ramblings of a semen-intoxicated CBS reporter. Transgenders never get surgery. They are gender-variant men who live as women and who are a part of the Queer community. Only transsexuals get the surgery...
Sorry, no. The facts don't bear that out. There are many different ways to be transgender, transsexual people are just one of those ways, and the medical needs of these people are as varied as anything else that varies between people.

Arguing about terminology using the terms I just read is, to me, an exercise in transphobia and homophobia. The post is filled with factually baseless assertions and inflammatory rhetoric. If someone doesn't want to identify as a transgender person, then fine, but please don't use your personal identification based on personal standards to judge and denigrate others whose experience is, apparently, completely foreign to you. In other words, speak for yourself, honey.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#17 Mar 20, 2012
Emelye Waldherr wrote:
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Sorry, no. The facts don't bear that out. There are many different ways to be transgender, transsexual people are just one of those ways, and the medical needs of these people are as varied as anything else that varies between people.
Arguing about terminology using the terms I just read is, to me, an exercise in transphobia and homophobia. The post is filled with factually baseless assertions and inflammatory rhetoric. If someone doesn't want to identify as a transgender person, then fine, but please don't use your personal identification based on personal standards to judge and denigrate others whose experience is, apparently, completely foreign to you. In other words, speak for yourself, honey.
Unfortunately, as bad as it is right now, the writing is on the wall for the next major hate target. Once gays and lesbians have the reality of civil rights, you KNOW which group will be in the cross hairs. It will be the test of the Gay Communities commitment to see how much help we render. I hope that I can be proud of our support.

“Purple girl in a purple world”

Since: Apr 08

Plum, Purplonia

#18 Mar 21, 2012
Emelye Waldherr wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, no. The facts don't bear that out. There are many different ways to be transgender, transsexual people are just one of those ways, and the medical needs of these people are as varied as anything else that varies between people.
Arguing about terminology using the terms I just read is, to me, an exercise in transphobia and homophobia. The post is filled with factually baseless assertions and inflammatory rhetoric. If someone doesn't want to identify as a transgender person, then fine, but please don't use your personal identification based on personal standards to judge and denigrate others whose experience is, apparently, completely foreign to you. In other words, speak for yourself, honey.
The fact is transsexuals are mainstream, not transgender. The correct term is transsexual surgery. There is no surgery to heal the sick choice of transgenderism.

Lumping TSs with TGs, LGBTs, and other perverts is transsexualphobia and mainstreamphobia.

A MtF TS Woman is really a woman, while a non-op TG "woman" (man in drag) is really a man. TSism is a birth defect, TGism is a sick choice - though these pervert men in drag are free to make that sick choice.

You tranny freaks lump TSs in with TGs to steal their rights and mainstream passing privilege - things that are important to true-TSs. EVERY true-TS wants to correct their birth defect and be see as heterosexual or asexual members of their corrected sex and for ALL to assume they were born without the birth defect. The TGs are deluded perverts who cannot accept that they are men and always will be. There are no true-TSs leaders among TSs, as ALL "TS leaders" are self-mutilated TG men who sell TSs out to TGs and have no loyalty to the TS & Mainstream Community. TGs are ALL a bunch of queer/perverted men in drag, while TS women are women with a birth defect and belong only in the Mainstream Community.

“Purple girl in a purple world”

Since: Apr 08

Plum, Purplonia

#19 Mar 21, 2012
Transsexuals are gender conformists and mainstream, while TGs are gender variant, perverts, and queers.

TSs work to destroy their birth defect to gain rights, while TGs demand that society support their chosen perversions and chosen gender variance.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#20 Mar 21, 2012
Purple Gurl wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact is transsexuals are mainstream, not transgender. The correct term is transsexual surgery. There is no surgery to heal the sick choice of transgenderism.
Lumping TSs with TGs, LGBTs, and other perverts is transsexualphobia and mainstreamphobia.
A MtF TS Woman is really a woman, while a non-op TG "woman" (man in drag) is really a man. TSism is a birth defect, TGism is a sick choice - though these pervert men in drag are free to make that sick choice.
You tranny freaks lump TSs in with TGs to steal their rights and mainstream passing privilege - things that are important to true-TSs. EVERY true-TS wants to correct their birth defect and be see as heterosexual or asexual members of their corrected sex and for ALL to assume they were born without the birth defect. The TGs are deluded perverts who cannot accept that they are men and always will be. There are no true-TSs leaders among TSs, as ALL "TS leaders" are self-mutilated TG men who sell TSs out to TGs and have no loyalty to the TS & Mainstream Community. TGs are ALL a bunch of queer/perverted men in drag, while TS women are women with a birth defect and belong only in the Mainstream Community.
The fact is, you don't know your a** from a hole in the wall.

“Purple girl in a purple world”

Since: Apr 08

Plum, Purplonia

#21 Mar 21, 2012
Put another way, there are always 2 groups of people whenever there is a therapeutic treatment available. There is the therapeutic group and the addiction/fetish group. There are people who take pain pills for pain as prescribed, and people who take pain pills to get high. TSs transition to relieve themselves of pain, while TGs partially transition to receive sexual pleasure.

The point remains that SRS is a transsexual surgery and not the business of any TG person nor LGBT, since true-TSs are not in the LGBT in the least. Many TG men have gotten the TS-only surgery, and they invariably take one of these routes:

1. Detransition and/or surgical reversal. This harms TSs in many ways. It makes it harder to get surgical treatment since most of society sees the number of regrets. In addition, the regret cases sometimes go on to become public spectacles, like the gay man who calls himself "Joe Mangina," who wrongly got SRS in an attempt to cure him of his gayness. Now he is a gay man without a penis and is encouraging other gay men to get what he calls and "inverted penis." One particular problem here are those who cannot man up to their mistake and have to sue someone, making it harder on the true-TSs.

2. Suicide. This is tragic, but quite a few TGs could not admit they were TGs. They were arrogant and hot-headed, and thought they knew what they wanted and bullied/manipulated their therapists into giving them the surgical clearance letters.

3. Taking responsibility for their actions and admitting they made a mistake, resigning themselves to suffering for the choice they made.

4. The most insidious form of surgical regret is when they cannot admit they made a mistake and must redefine everything. They constantly hijack/infiltrate TS and Women's groups and communities to prove their "femininity" using a masculine style of dominance. That is what nearly every "TS leader" has done. Every true-TS works to earn the privilege of being seen as a full, born member of their corrected sex, but these leaders work to out TSs and destroy mainstream living for all.

The TGs who are not TSs and who get surgery anyway do so to stand out, not fit in. While TG is an umbrella that defines any and all who are gender variant, TS is a specific, narrow term, with a specific meaning.

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